2016 Postmortem

Trust Buster

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40. What good would it have done to give Detroit money to build cars if

Reply to wa4297a (Reply #35)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:29 AM

Mar 2016

the credit necessary to buy those cars was not available to the consumers ?

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WP: "The Hillary Clinton-Bernie Sanders debate over the auto bailout, explained" [View all] thesquanderer Mar 2016 OP

She is so utterly devoid of integrity or honor peacebird Mar 2016 #1

Agree lsewpershad Mar 2016 #7

Not what I want in a president senz Mar 2016 #76

She turned it into an Ad that ran all day Monday on Michigan radio. Octafish Mar 2016 #80

Clinton lie #32,846,842 EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #2

. tk2kewl Mar 2016 #5

Rec for the truth, off to the greatest! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #3

Thank you for explaining Hillary's sneaky trick #772315427 yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #4

She can't help herself Doctor_J Mar 2016 #6

And we are supposed to genuflect in her direction why? StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #8

$14 B vs $700 B -Getting this out between now and tomorrow morning lostnfound Mar 2016 #9

Hillary was correct because you can't seperate the two issues. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #10

Bernie gets to explain it in an Ad while reminding the viewers about Bill's NAFTA and banking dereg. DhhD Mar 2016 #14

A total deflection. Every business needs a supply side and a demand side. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #15

not sure if you noticed ... beedle Mar 2016 #54

Really ? Please tell me how the auto market rebounded strongly if credit remained frozen ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #56

Some had the money saved .. beedle Mar 2016 #62

Nonsense. The five biggest auto lenders in this country were bailed out. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #65

correct they were. beedle Mar 2016 #70

The important point... Armstead Mar 2016 #33

True, Bernie has better judgement than Hillary. senz Mar 2016 #77

The one two knock out. Geronimoe Mar 2016 #11

I'll never understand why Thespian2 Mar 2016 #12

Please tell me how consumers were going to purchase automobiles if the banks were not Trust Buster Mar 2016 #16

Please tell me why smart people like the Clintons didn't see that coming years before? Armstead Mar 2016 #34

That's off topic. Please re-read the OP and respond. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #38

It's on the topic your raised -- the relationship with finance and banking Armstead Mar 2016 #44

The auto bailout couldn't be handled on it's own terms. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #49

There could have been options -- such as a nationalized credit operation Armstead Mar 2016 #50

The topic is Bernie's position in 2008 vs. Hillary's position. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #58

The federal gov't could have created an entity that made credit available for car loans. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2016 #39

Are you claiming that was Bernie's position at that time ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #43

There were numerous alternative put forth at the time, from Bernie and from others. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #46

Nothing in your articles discussed Bernie's specific approach to saving the credit markets IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #52

It sounds like you did not read the link. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #61

But, IN THE REAL WORLD, Congress was not offering that alternative and Detroit was on the brink. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #63

If the bill did NOT pass, then other alternatives would have been quickly considered. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #71

the banks were bailed out and credit remained unavailable anyway beedle Mar 2016 #57

Dirty campaigning with no integrity... no surprise from Clinton fbc Mar 2016 #13

Banks offer credit. Let them fail and car loans dry up. It's basic economics. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #18

Credit Unions hellraiser69 Mar 2016 #21

However, the banks did not have to be left in the hands of those who created the crisis... Human101948 Mar 2016 #22

Bernie's approach wasn't sound at all. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #24

That's your scenario... Human101948 Mar 2016 #26

Did Bernie suggest nationalizing the banks ? If so, when ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #29

No, I did. He has introduced a plan to break them up... Human101948 Mar 2016 #48

Oh. My. God. The total irony of your nick butted up against your defense of the the mega banks ... hedda_foil Mar 2016 #68

Anything for her Prize my precious. Nanjeanne Mar 2016 #17

A sleezeball if ever there was one. pangaia Mar 2016 #19

He voted against it when it mattered Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #20

re: "If everyone had voted his way, the auto industry would have folded." thesquanderer Mar 2016 #72

The economy was in free fall Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #73

Your ratfuck should be regularly groomed snort Mar 2016 #23

Sometime you need to compromise in a crisis. DCBob Mar 2016 #25

Hillary is a status quo, go along to get along politician... Human101948 Mar 2016 #27

It was the only best option at the time. DCBob Mar 2016 #28

Bernie did have an alternative. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #45

Did Bernie have a bill drafted that was ready to be voted on? DCBob Mar 2016 #47

It is hard to say he voted the wrong way... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #64

But it's more than that.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #30

What would have happened if no bailout? DCBob Mar 2016 #31

No, we'll never really know.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #41

No one was happy about bailing out the banks. But, if they were allowed to fail, Trust Buster Mar 2016 #32

He was for it wa4297a Mar 2016 #35

What good would it have done to give Detroit money to build cars if Trust Buster Mar 2016 #40

the banks figured out how to rob themselves, take everyone's money, get caught... islandmkl Mar 2016 #36

Your last sentence says it all, to me: NHprogressive Mar 2016 #37

Bernie supporters are deflecting from the thread topic. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #42

There were plenty of other options...the bankers just made shit up to enrich themselves... Human101948 Mar 2016 #51

Not a word of your post addressed what Bernie would have done to save the credit markets Trust Buster Mar 2016 #53

OK...so it was a lie. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #55

She was being totally factual. Bernie was playing fast and loose. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #60

"What Clinton said is technically true, but it glosses over a lot of important nuance, including the PatrickforO Mar 2016 #66

I was just told the Washington Post was a rag BainsBane Mar 2016 #59

There is actually more than one person on the other side of your screen. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #67

hope this gets wide publicity amborin Mar 2016 #69

Kick madfloridian Mar 2016 #74

kick'n'rec (nt) pat_k Mar 2016 #75

name ONE time in this election Sanders has accepted 'nuance' for Hillary's votes bigtree Mar 2016 #78

answers... thesquanderer Mar 2016 #79