2016 Postmortem

VulgarPoet

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95. If Hillary keeps supporting fracking, will she take responsibility while the Earth is broiling?

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Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:15 AM

Mar 2016

Just wondering. One day, you lot will realize money can not be eaten, drank, or breathed in.

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If Bernie bans fracking, will he take responsibility when price of oil goes right back up? [View all] hill2016 Mar 2016 OP

lol Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #1

Just like how KXL oil will be shipped offshore, large LNG depots are shipping it to China/Eurasia! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #94

Doesn't fracking mainly produce natural gas? Jarqui Mar 2016 #2

it produces both hill2016 Mar 2016 #3

It has moved the needle on oil FBaggins Mar 2016 #16

Also there are Blue Dog Democrats in those states and whether we agree with it or not, politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2016 #37

Alternative energy solutions marions ghost Mar 2016 #51

Coal mining produces jobs also !!! pangaia Mar 2016 #55

Agreed. I am anti-fracking and find this massive environmental damage (animals eventually get Cavallo Mar 2016 #85

HEAR HEAR HEAR !!! pangaia Mar 2016 #109

`Not just animals womanofthehills Mar 2016 #127

"Effectively doubled it" Aerows Mar 2016 #47

From 5 million a day to roughly 10 million a day. Zynx Mar 2016 #68

Please provide information Aerows Mar 2016 #75

Then where did you think the extra U.S. production came from? FBaggins Mar 2016 #72

Like I said. Aerows Mar 2016 #73

Easy enough FBaggins Mar 2016 #90

I think you have it backwards truthseeker1 Mar 2016 #87

in ND the fucking frackers just flare the gas because they just want the oil. See it from space. Agony Mar 2016 #62

Wow (head shaking side to side ...) Jarqui Mar 2016 #63

ND extended the deadline for capturing 85% to late 2016 Agony Mar 2016 #70

The blood disease that led to my dad's death polly7 Mar 2016 #98

I was hurt in an industrial accident a number of years ago Jarqui Mar 2016 #111

Wow ....... I'm so glad you both made it out. polly7 Mar 2016 #117

When you are too sick to provide for your dependents, I think that is Jarqui Mar 2016 #119

I'm so sorry you were so ill and had to go through all of that. polly7 Mar 2016 #120

I was so sick, for the first couple of years, I stayed in our basement Jarqui Mar 2016 #122

I'm really sorry, Jarqui. polly7 Mar 2016 #123

The purpose of saying such a thing wasn't to get sympathy Jarqui Mar 2016 #134

Thank you, it does help me, personally. I know he thought as you do. polly7 Mar 2016 #136

"Let's poison the ground water to set that $$$ JackInGreen Mar 2016 #4

the people who can set fire to their tap water would prefer more expensive gas & potable H2O peacebird Mar 2016 #6

so it would appear. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #131

That's Like Asking SDJay Mar 2016 #5

That argument was already made here as well. bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #96

Since I live in the suburbs of the city that would be hit hardest in "job-loss" from single-payer... Chan790 Mar 2016 #149

Interesting Perspective SDJay Mar 2016 #150

maybe with solar not all but blacklisted.... 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #7

I'd see if I could return that meme.......kind of embarrassing, really! djean111 Mar 2016 #8

If Hillary bans fracking, will she take responsibility when price of oil goes right back up? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #9

He won't have to Aerows Mar 2016 #10

if Bernie bans fracking hill2016 Mar 2016 #12

Nonsense. panader0 Mar 2016 #21

+1 (and LOL!) Herman4747 Mar 2016 #42

You are joking, right? Aerows Mar 2016 #29

Thank you--well said marions ghost Mar 2016 #118

Good, people will buy hybrids. Cavallo Mar 2016 #86

It will not - womanofthehills Mar 2016 #133

You are defending fracking? NowSam Mar 2016 #11

Surprising, isn't it? Herman4747 Mar 2016 #43

It is very surprising NowSam Mar 2016 #44

Maybe. But, he also take credit for eliminating a number of pollutants. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #13

It seems like every post you make is a Republican talking point. How is it that this has not been... Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #14

you don't think hill2016 Mar 2016 #17

I think that fracking is a short term gain, long term loss... Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #22

Not at all. panader0 Mar 2016 #24

No, because the plan is to build multiple LNG depots to ship the NG to China and Eurasia. TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #27

I think it is playing a part... tonedevil Mar 2016 #28

No. Aerows Mar 2016 #31

I know factually that it hasn't. Chan790 Mar 2016 #57

They're Clinton talking points. I know it's hard to tell them apart. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #35

LMAO! Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #15

yes hill2016 Mar 2016 #18

Nice argument. You're smart. bvf Mar 2016 #56

This is a political exercise --- that's all. earthside Mar 2016 #115

Does this mean you think the price of oil is low now because of fracking? enough Mar 2016 #19

yes hill2016 Mar 2016 #23

you are very wrong fbc Mar 2016 #32

Um, no. Not even kind of. Do some research. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2016 #54

It confounds me n/t Aerows Mar 2016 #77

If you Clinton supporters were a little less mercenary, you'd be adorable. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #20

and if Bernie bans fracking hill2016 Mar 2016 #25

Are americans hurt more by historically-typical gas prices or by global warming? lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #30

No, it wouldn't fbc Mar 2016 #34

If they were a little less Republican you mean? Kittycat Mar 2016 #158

foreshadowing a Hillary pivot Enrique Mar 2016 #26

Do you support fracking? pinebox Mar 2016 #33

It won't; it didn't go down because of fracking. alarimer Mar 2016 #36

Yes, but to be fair, US oil production is up 5 million barrels per day because of fracking. Zynx Mar 2016 #69

I think that's partly why Obama proposed a $10/barrel fee while prices are so low truthseeker1 Mar 2016 #88

and increased Middle Eastern wars BainsBane Mar 2016 #38

You have been to the Shale Oil Fields? Or are you 'inviting' people to go where you have never been? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #92

A better question to ask: "Will he take credit for the decrease in greenhouse... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #39

The People running Flint Gwhittey Mar 2016 #40

how high *should* the price of oil be? 0rganism Mar 2016 #41

Don't forget that there are much higher taxes in Europe, which pay for things like health care. djean111 Mar 2016 #59

another stupid hit and run bullshit op. litlbilly Mar 2016 #45

Hill, have you seen gasland 2?. watch it then try this op again... litlbilly Mar 2016 #46

The natural gas boom brought bout by fracking has cut use of coal and reduced CO2 pollution. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #48

You don't follow economic news, do you? Bad Thoughts Mar 2016 #49

Ask GW and Dick Cheney. They agree with your position, mmonk Mar 2016 #50

You have this backwards. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #113

If Hillary starts a ground war based on lies, bvf Mar 2016 #52

I hope this is a troll LettuceSea Mar 2016 #53

It is. morningfog Mar 2016 #100

Straw man. longship Mar 2016 #58

No. Of course not MaggieD Mar 2016 #60

If prices remain anywhere near where they are today for an extended period Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #61

Fracking is very limited right now in part because the price of fuel is low. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #64

Will Clinton take responsibility if aquifers are poisoned? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #65

What if he bans a deadly pharmaceutical? U.S. profits will decline! JackRiddler Mar 2016 #66

look at every defense of fracking in the threads above ^^ it's all about the $$$... islandmkl Mar 2016 #67

I would imagine he would if it can avoid groundwater poisoning. Hopefully, HRC joins him on that. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #71

I thought we as a party were pretty solidly against fracking... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #74

Surely this isn't meant as blanket support of fracking? NHprogressive Mar 2016 #76

The price of oil in this country is too low Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #78

I've seen some silly shit. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #79

Who will take responsibility when there is no natural ice Lint Head Mar 2016 #80

If he doesn't, will YOU take responsibility when the earth explodes? nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #81

Oil prices are low. Fuck the environment. Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #82

... beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #83

Not only is that man blocking fracking, but is blocking clean water commodification!!eleven! That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #84

There is much work to be done. Broward Mar 2016 #89

It NEEDS to go up in order to insure a good transition to renewable energy Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #91

Wow, now fracking is cool on DU? roody Mar 2016 #93

If Hillary keeps supporting fracking, will she take responsibility while the Earth is broiling? VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #95

Do you not care about the environment? Fracking has little to do with the price of oil but Live and Learn Mar 2016 #97

Maybe it's time the citizens take some blame? Generic Other Mar 2016 #99

I was shocked this even got 2 recs, until I saw who whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #101

This sure seems right wingy. cyberswede Mar 2016 #102

Trading clean water for oil. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #103

Your new 3rd-way'd Democratic Party, ladies and gentlemen. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #104

"Third Way" has no application here. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #106

You wish. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #108

Ah ha. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #112

I'll try to recover from the disappointment. n/t Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #138

Will he accept the fact that we will no longer be energy self-sufficient? Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #105

Fracking is expensive and inefficient and not economic unless oils at 80/bank or more elehhhhna Mar 2016 #107

That's what many assumed two years ago. They've been proven wrong. FBaggins Mar 2016 #116

Drill Baby Drill via fracking Elmergantry Mar 2016 #110

I'll happily help him shoulder the blame. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #114

Recommending this thread for visibility noamnety Mar 2016 #121

If Hillary continues to push fracking, will she take responsibility for the poisoned ground water? Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #124

Why are you posting a right wing argument? B Calm Mar 2016 #125

OMG CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #126

Yes. He will buy all your gas, too. dchill Mar 2016 #128

We NEED the price of oil to go back up TransitJohn Mar 2016 #129

Not exactly FBaggins Mar 2016 #139

Point well taken TransitJohn Mar 2016 #141

Did you see the strawman ishing for red herrings Botany Mar 2016 #130

The price of oil is not low due to fracking AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #132

It is indirectly elehhhhna Mar 2016 #135

Actually... it's directly. FBaggins Mar 2016 #140

You care more about cheap gas than clean water? bunnies Mar 2016 #137

could this question be any more ridiculous? ibegurpard Mar 2016 #142

I thought the Hillary campaign was all about clean drinking water. You know, Flint? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #143

Bingo! B Calm Mar 2016 #148

Why would the price of oil go up? Doesn't fracking produce natural gas? Vinca Mar 2016 #144

Alaska's economy would give him a Yuuuge thank you Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #145

I'm sorry, but we need to begin managing ourselves as a species. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #146

Considering Fracking costs $50/barrel JesterCS Mar 2016 #147

Ever been to Europe? pangaia Mar 2016 #151

I'm sorry, but making this argument immediately disqualifies you as a Democrat. EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #152

He can take credit for the green energy economic boom. libtodeath Mar 2016 #153

Oil prices over the good of the planet: LWolf Mar 2016 #154

Oh no not oil prices. Fuck the planet! liberalnarb Mar 2016 #155

I'm guessing you're not living anywhere near where fracking is going on shawn703 Mar 2016 #156

Are we Democrats or Republicans? Kittycat Mar 2016 #157

Honesty Is Why Voters Love Him corbettkroehler Mar 2016 #159