2016 Postmortem

flamingdem

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44. Good analysis. Hillary personally disliked Zelaya, Obama had to go along

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:08 AM

Mar 2016

But you are right he saw the light. I bet if not for Obama Hillary would be happy to ignore Cuba, her idea of policy was to wait until Fidel died.

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Uproar Grows Over Hillary's Role in Honduran Coup as Her Campaign Denies Connection [View all] Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP

. Wilms Mar 2016 #1

Woah! Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #25

That's Laney Davis with her. Wilms Mar 2016 #30

she looks hideous in that picture, maybe it was Davis' effect Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #63

kicked and recced. important info Arazi Mar 2016 #2

I remember when the news broke that the democratically elected government was overthrown by a GoneFishin Mar 2016 #3

You're wrong nichomachus Mar 2016 #4

Gonefishin did say 'they' rpannier Mar 2016 #9

Yeah, FSTV & Democracy Now Has Had Some Coverage About Her ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #14

Intuition, & I followed those events closely: Obama was not involved. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #29

Are you saying Obama couldn't have removed or forced Hillary to step down Autumn Mar 2016 #35

Please see my remarks below to GoneFishin. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #46

You really think Obama wasn't able to achieve Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #89

But he avoided the use of the term 'coup' which allowed the US to continue to provide assistance GoneFishin Mar 2016 #38

As I recall, he at first said "military coup," and those of us following events... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #45

Good information. Thanks. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #47

Good analysis. Hillary personally disliked Zelaya, Obama had to go along flamingdem Mar 2016 #44

We have read repeatedly here that she as SOS only carries out his wishes. You cannot possibly Doctor_J Mar 2016 #60

I don't think Obama was focused on Honduras flamingdem Mar 2016 #76

Here is the Nation story: dana_b Mar 2016 #5

Dancing with Monsters: The U.S. Response to the 2009 Honduran Coup Octafish Mar 2016 #6

And there we have it: HeartoftheMidwest Mar 2016 #11

Jackpot scottie55 Mar 2016 #15

American corporations HATE democracy, especially south of the border. arcane1 Mar 2016 #78

That's why they're trying to outsource our democracy with TPP pdsimdars Mar 2016 #88

I think there is a good chance that Pres Obama gets some powerful "help" on foreign policy rhett o rick Mar 2016 #80

The Clintons have a history of backing fascist regimes elmac Mar 2016 #7

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #8

The US Government has a long history WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #10

+1 harun Mar 2016 #53

The U.S. opposes any government it can't control. Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #82

KnR sus453 Mar 2016 #12

She said last night in the debate she wants to "clean up" South America newthinking Mar 2016 #13

What's her plan? 840high Mar 2016 #18

Is that like "clean up this one horse town"? jhart3333 Mar 2016 #22

Like with a cloth? Nt HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #27

^Major Duzzy! StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #54

Like with a cloth? AlbertCat Mar 2016 #84

Like she "cleaned up" Libya? [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #28

Didn't hear the debate. Now I'm glad! I think the candidate needs to butt out of the Americas. Judi Lynn Mar 2016 #31

What in the hell? a la izquierda Mar 2016 #81

"Bring them to heel" perhaps? n/t RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #87

Is there 1 SIngle thing she can be proud of as SoS? FreedomRain Mar 2016 #16

They're still cleaning up the mess she made. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #86

Unlike you, Madam Secretary, Wikileaks doesn't lie. forest444 Mar 2016 #17

She's big on zentrum Mar 2016 #19

What do expect when her mentor is... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #69

knr roody Mar 2016 #20

She IS an admirer of Kissinger... ibegurpard Mar 2016 #21

Her role in the 2009 coup in Honduras has not received the scrutiny it so richly deserves. seafan Mar 2016 #23

^^^this^^^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #24

Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Mar 2016 #26

+1000 eom noiretextatique Mar 2016 #34

Thank you, should be an OP dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #39

I sent the email, and encourage others to do the same dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #40

Jesus Christ, that is horrible. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #48

And Reagan carried on the Dulles Brothers tradition. Octafish Mar 2016 #55

you should read "The Devil's Chessboard" if you haven't-- a great book that really exposes the evil Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #61

It is a hell of a book... Octafish Mar 2016 #66

good post-- she fits in perfectly with the horrible Washington regime change mentality Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #59

Kick and Rec!!! Agony Mar 2016 #92

Great article, and input from DU'ers. Thank you, Cheese Sandwich. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2016 #32

Thanks Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #33

+1000 flamingdem Mar 2016 #43

The Nation: 'Before Her Murder, Berta C�ceres Singled Out Hillary Clinton for Criticism' seafan Mar 2016 #36

Nice going, Hillary, very "progressive".... John Poet Mar 2016 #37

Wow, that is an amazing statement dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #41

Secretary Clinton must answer for her role in the Honduran coup. So many have died. seafan Mar 2016 #58

Wherever people are struggling to rise. A shareholder is there to push them down. nt raouldukelives Mar 2016 #57

Doublespeak, constitutionl crisis = we were ok with the coup flamingdem Mar 2016 #42

Not at all surprised... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #49

Shit happens. The United States can't intervene in every domestic dispute in the world. Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #50

Yea, shit happens. Funny how that is... StandingInLeftField Mar 2016 #56

Considering how well our "interventions" work, that's a blessing. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #73

Uh oh -- somebody's gone stepped in it tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 #51

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #52

when will America recognize the harm we've done with all our regime change meddling? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #62

Thank God her Reagan/Kissinger Latin America approach might finally be scrutinized Mufaddal Mar 2016 #64

K&R....more revelations from the e-mails! KoKo Mar 2016 #65

This is hard to believe. I mean, look at how she brought Democracy and security to the Ukraine. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2016 #67

A song that is always relevant to these matters... Jackson Browne's... Mark 750 Mar 2016 #68

Kissinger's influence manifests itself: so much for Clinton's qualifications. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #70

Studied his negotiating style Babel_17 Mar 2016 #71

Hey, I'm sure Hilary had good intentions but, here again, her judgment was fundamentally Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #72

I wouldn't imply she had good intentions. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #74

good question! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #75

Berta C�ceres called out Hillary on this Tragl1 Mar 2016 #77

K&R excellent thread! felix_numinous Mar 2016 #79

Buddying up to Corps and the Wealthy snort Mar 2016 #83

The GOP blames Obama for everythng . . watch, the Clinton campaign will find a way to blame Bernie pdsimdars Mar 2016 #85

Clinton Lies Again billhicks76 Mar 2016 #90

I wish she would be... zentrum Mar 2016 #91