2016 Postmortem

Tom Rinaldo

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26. I think this comment comes across as patronizing:

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:59 AM

Mar 2016

"I think it's only fair that Sanders inform these young Americans of the unlikelihood of a Republican-controlled House considering his new entitlement spending proposals."

I am 66 and have closely followed politics all of my life. I expect Republican obstruction of either a President Sanders or Clinton - but believe Democrats have to start fighting for an agenda like the one Sanders backs now in order to ever achieve our goals - just like Republicans fought for decades for privatized schools before they made serious inroads there. I dispute your implication that young voters need to be informed about current political realities.

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Either Hillary's a Weak Candidate and/or Bernie's a Strong Candidate and/or his Message is Powerful [View all] Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 OP

Yea but Bernie got tons of media attention Gwhittey Mar 2016 #1

It means if HIllary ends up being the nominee, she better damn well fight like an underdog. morningfog Mar 2016 #2

She should, but will she? malthaussen Mar 2016 #5

My fear is that she can't. KPN Mar 2016 #66

I too don't have a high level of confidence that Hillary can win the presidential general election Victor_c3 Mar 2016 #78

Hillary has always been a fighter. Look what she's had to put up with since the 90's. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #73

Most of it, both Bill and Hillary brought on theirselves. zalinda Mar 2016 #84

One wonders how things would stand... malthaussen Mar 2016 #3

No "coin tosses," very likely, just outright wins BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #13

Still with the inaccurate coin toss garbage mythology Mar 2016 #86

Really? Prove it BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #88

All of the Above Armstead Mar 2016 #4

+1 Duval Mar 2016 #55

She has more total votes than Sanders and 2-1 livetohike Mar 2016 #6

She is not 2-1 on delegates. She is up 771 to 550. morningfog Mar 2016 #9

Her Super Delegate lead is part of the "every advantage" I was referencing Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #10

Yes. All of the above. n/t TDale313 Mar 2016 #7

In my opinion, Sanders' popularity is not a mystery. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #8

I think we should just cancel the November election and just let Trump have it all Armstead Mar 2016 #11

I don't see how your response relates to my post but I respect your right to respond. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #15

Because you are saying there is nothing Bernie could do so he should just shut up Armstead Mar 2016 #17

I never said that Sanders should shut up. You must have read that in another post. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #21

I was using hyperbolie. Armstead Mar 2016 #25

I would warn the Democratic Party not to Patronize the Young Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #14

You don't believe that the disenfranchising gerrymandering tactics that the Republicans have Trust Buster Mar 2016 #19

I think this comment comes across as patronizing: Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #26

they're obviously just a bunch of ignorant young tools and fools stupidicus Mar 2016 #31

Saying that a group is idealistic is not the same as saying they are ignorant... anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #64

spare me stupidicus Mar 2016 #74

Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #79

+1! KPN Mar 2016 #67

You pick a perfect name for yourself..... daleanime Mar 2016 #62

Obama has tried that tract. He never offers anything the GOP wouldn't accept and then waters it Vincardog Mar 2016 #77

Running against Hillary is like playing a basketball game on the other team's home court BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #12

Just an observation that the "weak" candidates has gotten 60% of the vote so far... brooklynite Mar 2016 #16

You should take that 40 percent seriously Armstead Mar 2016 #20

Shall we? You never do. Here is you not waiting for a single vote to be cast: Aug 10 Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #27

Well, right now the fact is she is winning Onlooker Mar 2016 #18

I mostly agree with you here. fun n serious Mar 2016 #22

There is a fundamental difference between Bernie and Trump Armstead Mar 2016 #23

Thanks for a thoughtful comment Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #24

I give Sanders a lot of credit for his campaign.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #29

Reason tells me that those who will call Hillary an extreme socialist and Obama a Kenyan Muslim Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #32

I am not saying WE must change our idea.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #36

See, that's why Sanders has an advantage, seriously... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #34

That's not what I mean. fun n serious Mar 2016 #43

And yet all of the polling shows... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #50

If the point is to make arbitrary equations to Trump let's remember that Donald is the wealthy Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #30

I think Hillary is running a good, smart campaign ... salinsky Mar 2016 #28

Your last point is fiction. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #35

Both Trump and Sanders are running on somewhat radical populist messages ... salinsky Mar 2016 #63

Trump rally marions ghost Mar 2016 #47

The coverage has made it clear that I wouldn't be welcome there. salinsky Mar 2016 #58

What a shameful, nasty remark that is... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #51

It wasn't meant to be nasty ... salinsky Mar 2016 #59

Nonsense. ljm2002 Mar 2016 #65

It is what it is, man ... salinsky Mar 2016 #70

My god man... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #72

Hillary Knows How to Win gordyfl Mar 2016 #33

Oh c'mon. I have more damning evidence than that of Sanders and a better "source" fun n serious Mar 2016 #37

Please, present your evidence... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #52

People are ready for a female president, but rejecting establishment candidates. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #38

This is true, and a good point. Utopian Leftist Mar 2016 #85

She only had one window to win. JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #87

Yep, all the party had to do was tag Elizabeth Warren for the job IllinoisLabour Mar 2016 #90

Or all of the above ibegurpard Mar 2016 #39

most Democrats are solid with either choice bigtree Mar 2016 #40

I'm continually amazed how people fail to see paradigm shifts. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #42

I agree. I can not be convinced. fun n serious Mar 2016 #45

This is the year of the perfect storm and it was only a matter of time before it hit. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #41

bernie's success represents and is due to unsated needs and desires stupidicus Mar 2016 #44

Well, I guess we will wait and see. nt. fun n serious Mar 2016 #46

It means that DINOs are dying off and the future belongs to progressives. fbc Mar 2016 #48

Either way, whomever the candidate is, they're going to need the supporters Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #49

It is a combo. Bernie is a strong candidate (can't be bought, honest) and his message is powerful. Skwmom Mar 2016 #53

Powerful DownriverDem Mar 2016 #54

He's convincingly made promises he has to know he can't keep in traditional politician fashion. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #56

We should not forget, what really started the tea baggers. sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #57

With Hillary as President... gordyfl Mar 2016 #68

His message is powerful. Duval Mar 2016 #60

or both.... daleanime Mar 2016 #61

I guess they're both "misunderstood".... George II Mar 2016 #69

Bernie Sanders Has Been Fighting the Middle Class for a Long Time gordyfl Mar 2016 #71

Hillary's candidacy is driven by the inertia of identity politics. Maedhros Mar 2016 #75

Great observation! KPN Mar 2016 #89

Any democrat we select should win in November azretired Mar 2016 #76

Hillary has never been a good candidate Dem2 Mar 2016 #80

Bottom line: Hillary is a Clinton and could make history vs Bernie Who? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #81

All of the above! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #82

Whenever I hear that Hillary is a strong candidate, I have to resist the urge Gmak Mar 2016 #83