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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
14. When AIDS was funny.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016
The Reagan Administration’s Unearthed Response to the AIDS Crisis Is Chilling




http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis

One of the most prominent stains on the reputation of the much-mythologized Reagan administration was its response, or lack of response, to the AIDS crisis as it began to ravage American cities in the early and mid-1980s. President Reagan famously (though, not famously enough) didn’t himself publicly mention AIDS until 1985, when more than 5,000 people, most of them gay men, had already been killed by the disease. Filmmaker Scott Calonico’s new documentary short, When AIDS Was Funny, exclusively debuting on VF.com, shows how the Reagan administration reacted to the mounting problem in chilling fashion. Not even Reagan’s appointed mouthpiece, notorious press secretary Larry Speakes, had much to say about the crisis beyond derisive laughter.

Using never-before-heard audio tapes from three separate press conferences, in 1982, 1983, and 1984, When AIDS Was Funny illustrates how the reporter Lester Kinsolving, a conservative (and not at all gay-friendly) fixture in the White House press corps, was consistently scoffed at when he posed urgent questions about the AIDS epidemic. With snickering, homophobic jokes and a disturbing air of uninterest, Speakes dismisses Kinsolving’s concerns about the escalating problem. “Lester was known as somewhat of a kook and a crank (many people still feel the same way),” says Calonico. “But, at the time, he was just a journalist asking questions only to be mocked by both the White House and his peers.”

What Calonico has compiled, juxtaposing the deeply troubling audio with images of AIDS patients at Seattle’s Bailey-Boushay House in the 1990s, is an infuriating summation of the Reagan administration’s fatal inaction in confronting a generation-defining tragedy. Watch the concise, damning short above, but be warned: it will make you angry.

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The first lady who looked away: Nancy and the Reagans' troubling Aids legacy Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #1
Well it is now much better, nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #101
I'm so pissed that I have to refrain from commenting. Aerows Mar 2016 #270
Trust me, I understand nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #271
FUBAR has new meaning for me. n/t Aerows Mar 2016 #272
Hey! No worries! SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #275
although Nancy came around later on PatrynXX Mar 2016 #108
when it benefitted her husband roguevalley Mar 2016 #145
Last week Bill Maher did a commentary about Republicans inability to empathize dflprincess Mar 2016 #188
Exactly right Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #257
Like any Republican anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #240
Because it would benefit Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #256
Disgusting, truly disgusting. haikugal Mar 2016 #2
+10000 Cavallo Mar 2016 #76
Wow - so she can't help lying? Merryland Mar 2016 #3
It sure seems so. More and more and more lately. kath Mar 2016 #8
She doesn't call this lying... monicaangela Mar 2016 #130
It's not lying. It's history evolving! Bernblu Mar 2016 #209
LOL!!! monicaangela Mar 2016 #235
I could be Hillary is having memory issues. If she didn't remember and had those remarks brewens Mar 2016 #276
How could anyone that lived through that era forget monicaangela Mar 2016 #277
This is from Larry Kramer's retelling, I used to believe it too. But they did increase the budget bettyellen Mar 2016 #4
"Budget increases" does not equal "starting a national conversation" Arazi Mar 2016 #5
"I used to believe it too." What changed your mind? nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #13
Wanting to cover for Hillary, apparently. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #24
Because it is greatly exaggerated.Funding jumped from 8 million in 82 to 26 m in 83- at Regan's bettyellen Mar 2016 #30
"Revisionist history about Reagan must be rejected. Researchers, historians and AIDS experts who rhett o rick Mar 2016 #40
Silence = Death Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #167
a picture is truly worth 1,000 words! nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #247
It would seem like a press conference would be on the record. 7962 Mar 2016 #190
another topic for another day, don't get me started nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #248
San Francisco's AIDS funding was larger than Reagan's for an entire nation and he Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #43
Hahaha!! Realclear politics. No wonder you didn't provide the link. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #49
There is a big difference between doing nothing, and what actually happened. I have found that most bettyellen Mar 2016 #57
Do you understand. San Francisco, a city of 650,000 people had a larger AIDS budget than Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #62
I get that SF is the wealthiest progressive city in the US, and was hardest hit by the epidemic. bettyellen Mar 2016 #68
It was not a wealthy city at the time. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #70
If, for example, an amount doubled from ten cents to 20 cents and then to 40 cents... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #110
I live in San Francisco. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #191
I stand with you... Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #203
You are just wrong. I was there. Things happened, but Reagan did not do them. Reagan resisted them. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #66
This is a flat out lie: "This drastic lack of funding would continue through the Reagan years. " bettyellen Mar 2016 #69
And Reagan had little to do with it. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #92
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #242
What happened was in Spite of the Reagans, not because of it. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #80
This. n/t ms liberty Mar 2016 #125
Double this!!! Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #204
True, but the posts I have seen say NOTHING was being done for years, when that is completely bettyellen Mar 2016 #251
Thanks for the link pscot Mar 2016 #232
By '85 all of my freinds who died of AIDS cliffordu Mar 2016 #104
Try absorbing this. Nancy refused to help her friend, Rock Hudson when he fled this country to try sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #187
"Listen to Reagan’s Press Secretary Laugh About Gay People Dying of AIDS" hedgehog Mar 2016 #239
Wow, are you missing the whole point. You really are a unusual Hillary fan. nt Logical Mar 2016 #121
WRONG. SusanaMontana41 Mar 2016 #267
Raygun's press secretary laughed and made homophobic jokes about it. Hillary has no shame. morningfog Mar 2016 #6
yep - When Aids Was Funny: dana_b Mar 2016 #27
Thank you! What an education I'm getting here! Cavallo Mar 2016 #77
scary, huh?? dana_b Mar 2016 #84
Beyond. These people are beyond despicable. I never knew this about the Regans. Cavallo Mar 2016 #88
Here's a direct to video: Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #172
Older folks remember Thespian2 Mar 2016 #175
Thank you Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #206
Activists Say Nancy Reagan Should Have Pushed Harder on AIDS Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #7
I support the left though I'm leaning leaning to the right... Fumesucker Mar 2016 #9
"Politician" - sung by the great Jack Bruce! klook Mar 2016 #72
Cream was a fun band right klook? Those were some days navarth Mar 2016 #258
seems like politicians like to clean up history, I remember people demanding it be addresses hollysmom Mar 2016 #10
me too Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #114
when miss kitty from Gunsmoke died of it roguevalley Mar 2016 #142
She's basically giving the Reagans credit for ending their own silence. arcane1 Mar 2016 #11
But when Ron ended his silence what he said was just awful.... April 2, 1987 Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #36
I remember. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #44
Sanctimonious Bastard. IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #112
She could have talked about any number of things... Punkingal Mar 2016 #12
She is a great admirer of the Presidency of Ronald Reagan which is very telling and scary to me. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #17
That's what I mean - talk about her fight against drug abuse or Alzheimer's work - closeupready Mar 2016 #20
maybe it's a compulsion to self-aggrandize - insert herself into the (false) Nancy story... Merryland Mar 2016 #28
I've been told via PM that white-washing the record of monsters is "good manners". Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #26
the Clintons are the epitome of phoniness. Merryland Mar 2016 #31
Get out of here! Are you serious? Punkingal Mar 2016 #41
Fuck that noise. "Good manners" is to give someone credit for something they've done, winter is coming Mar 2016 #42
Was it any of the ones who in 2009 dismissed LGBT's grievances enigmatic Mar 2016 #47
No shame when defending Hillary. Absolutely disgusting. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #216
I'm sorry but screw that noise... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #229
When AIDS was funny. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #14
I am just stunned that she would say this. Truth in the in the Guardian today: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #15
A DUer pointed to this book recently... I think the title says it all. Fumesucker Mar 2016 #19
Thanks - sigh looking at 840high Mar 2016 #176
I was around during that time enigmatic Mar 2016 #16
+1. I couldn't even begin to guess how many funerals and memorial services winter is coming Mar 2016 #23
My little brother gave in to toxo in 1988. kristopher Mar 2016 #53
So sorry you lost your brother FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #64
I lost two dear friends. 840high Mar 2016 #178
Amen. Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #192
I can't imagine experiencing that loss Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #230
Complete BS on deathrind Mar 2016 #18
13 Times The Reagan White House Press Briefing Erupted With Laughter Over AIDS Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #21
I wish the attitude displayed in that exchange was a thing from the past, it is not. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #79
Is Hillary purposely trying to lose the race? NowSam Mar 2016 #22
She is pandering to the Right. She's afraid she has lost the Left. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #45
I thought she just told us all off ...like she doesn't need us anymore. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #140
If the Left wouldn't support her in 2008 why would they now? The hubris rhett o rick Mar 2016 #146
Holy shit, but that makes perfect sense. bvf Mar 2016 #210
The Reagans aside... pugetres Mar 2016 #25
Yep. Dr. Elders was forced to resign. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #29
As a GenXer myself... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #231
People feel too obligated to say something good about the recently departed. It needs to stop. eppur_se_muova Mar 2016 #32
I agree. Stand by for when Cheney's mechanical heart fails. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #48
I'm sure she will praise him as a great humanitarian. Gary 50 Mar 2016 #83
LMFAO ...expect it. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #141
Or Barbara Bush, for that matter. Miles Archer Mar 2016 #91
I loved British reaction to Thatcher's death. dflprincess Mar 2016 #273
People are gonna tie themselves in knots trying to eulogize Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, ... eppur_se_muova Mar 2016 #274
She's going to hear a lot about this. Here's some of what's already being said: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #33
Fuck Clinton TM99 Mar 2016 #34
Agree completely MissDeeds Mar 2016 #61
No shame and I'm starting 840high Mar 2016 #180
^ this ^ Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #144
Reagan's AIDSGATE excerpts from "The Truth About Reagan and AIDS" by Michael Bronski Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #35
I posted this in a different thread, but ... salinsky Mar 2016 #37
Nailed it ... salinsky Mar 2016 #65
No. n/t ebayfool Mar 2016 #217
I was living in SF at the time mooseprime Mar 2016 #38
That allusion to the Palmolive tv commercials prob goes over the younger folks' heads nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #250
hadn't thought of that mooseprime Mar 2016 #253
a video clip - ads like these ran from '60s to '90s TheDormouse Mar 2016 #255
Reagan Seeks Aids Report But Budget Cuts Funding suffragette Mar 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Mar 2016 #46
She told an insulting lie for no reason other than to shit on the memory of thousands of AIDS dead. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #54
+1 Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #159
She has information at her disposal. malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #237
Well said. H2O Man Mar 2016 #252
We aren't bashing her for saying TM99 Mar 2016 #74
and +1 Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #161
Is there a limit Kalidurga Mar 2016 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Mar 2016 #116
Why? Kalidurga Mar 2016 #120
You've got a lot of goddamned nerve to be lecturing anyone about ethics. JoeyT Mar 2016 #128
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Mar 2016 #166
A trip down your "recommend" list says otherwise. Wednesdays Mar 2016 #205
I'm sure you said something nice 840high Mar 2016 #181
Something FALSE that hurts the families of other dead people. Shame on you. merrily Mar 2016 #194
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Mar 2016 #195
How DARE you say I don't care about the substance of what she said? merrily Mar 2016 #196
This message was self-deleted by its author Dem2 Mar 2016 #197
Clearly, you have no clue what "logical fallacy" means; your Repy 46 did what I said; merrily Mar 2016 #198
No, you're attacking the people who attack what she said for something entirely unrelated MNBrewer Mar 2016 #219
We all die.. it don't change who we were while we were alive. DeGreg Mar 2016 #214
she just apologized on twitter: dana_b Mar 2016 #50
It's understandable. She doesn't *actually* give a shit about it, so why would she know? /nt Marr Mar 2016 #55
'I misspoke' she says. Not Good Enough Hillary! Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #56
'misspoke' is the pc version of 'lied'. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #135
I'm not buying it. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #58
me either but I think she realized what a huge gaff it was dana_b Mar 2016 #59
Misspoke is when you say chickpeas instead of chicken. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #75
excellent example dana_b Mar 2016 #87
She misspoke?? WTF?? haikugal Mar 2016 #60
She spun a narrative. "It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #67
Bullshit! haikugal Mar 2016 #71
Add it to the list of yuuuuge mistakes. nm rhett o rick Mar 2016 #86
I think SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #97
No, she did not get it mixed up... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #148
Thanks. You're right, it's nuts. Just nuts. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #170
Nope, sorry couldn't be notadmblnd Mar 2016 #153
Thanks. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #169
Wow, that's some seriously "low key advocacy" right there. Marr Mar 2016 #51
It was a national conversation sparked by the Reagans... It sounded like this: elehhhhna Mar 2016 #134
I was a teenager deathrind Mar 2016 #52
Tone deaf, and wrong BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #63
She was probably trying to gain points with the LGBT community. senz Mar 2016 #94
Yes, I agree. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #138
Looks like Hillary thought whitewashing the Reagans would be a winning idea. jalan48 Mar 2016 #73
Every time she opens her mouth SHRED Mar 2016 #78
Nancy was disgusting. So is Hilary's revisionist history. Daemonaquila Mar 2016 #81
Anyone know how you stop a monthly donation to a political campaign? Amimnoch Mar 2016 #82
If it's a recurring charge via PayPal, you can go in and cancel/deny it. n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #89
Unfortunately not, it was by providing my card information on their donation page. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #90
Call your credit card company and ask. winter is coming Mar 2016 #93
You can call your CC company and stop the monthly payment enigmatic Mar 2016 #103
Just when I thought the Clintons could not tell bigger fibs here comes something sick dr60omg Mar 2016 #85
Where the hell was she in the 80's? With Kissinger? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #96
That was a really low blow. The Reagan's did every thing in their power to avoid the AIDS Crisis. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #95
This just in: Utopian Leftist Mar 2016 #98
Sheesh. She created an entire false story. That is not misspeaking. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #100
Once you make an 'error' voting for a bullshit war, 'error' becomes acceptable... Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #136
Nancy Reagan refused to help dying Rock Hudson get Aids treatment Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Mar 2016 #102
I wish Hillary's versions of the truth were more true. Unfortunately, they are not. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #105
+1 Go Vols Mar 2016 #109
that is how they roll: they trot out all these great things the Dems have done in her defense, MisterP Mar 2016 #265
So what new Republican fuckery forjusticethunders Mar 2016 #106
Just look at the comments in the first portion of this for Reagan apologists... It's disgusting Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #234
The way the Reagans handled the AIDS crisis is one of the most shameful periods in our history. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #107
Wow, just when I thought that Clinton couldn't get lower. blackspade Mar 2016 #111
Nothing shocks me at this point. zentrum Mar 2016 #113
First Goldwater Girl, now a Reagan Democrat. How can HRC shills support this Republican Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #117
Jaysus, Hillary! AzDar Mar 2016 #118
pathological liars lie even when it would benefit them to be truthful magical thyme Mar 2016 #119
To borrow a term from the LGBTQ community farleftlib Mar 2016 #171
Is this the last nail in her candidacy? THIS will make people furious. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #122
Even worse. She started that 1st sentence "The other point I wanted to make too is..." suffragette Mar 2016 #123
Yep Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #124
Yes - we caught that. Thanks. 840high Mar 2016 #182
I'm all for respecting the dead Geronimoe Mar 2016 #126
Exactly correct. nt JEB Mar 2016 #129
Never thought I'd see the day when DUers were defending the Reagans skygazer Mar 2016 #127
Thus the term "Reagan Democrats". Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #132
...but a cheating husband is ok. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #131
still there is nothing about Nancy and AIDS treestar Mar 2016 #133
"nothing about Nancy and AIDS" except Hillary's fiction. n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #147
We still don't know where Nancy herself actually stood on things treestar Mar 2016 #149
Lame excuses. We know Nancy did not do what Hillary claimed she and Ron did n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #151
You are only saying this TM99 Mar 2016 #152
I don't see what she was supposed to do in France treestar Mar 2016 #156
I am sure you don't. TM99 Mar 2016 #158
It's kind of funny because normally Bernie supporters treestar Mar 2016 #160
You seriously tried to make this about the 1%? TM99 Mar 2016 #163
I'm not talking about what they could have done treestar Mar 2016 #223
So, it was OK to ignore a friend in need because they were already ignoring hedgehog Mar 2016 #244
Oh, just stop TM99 Mar 2016 #249
She was very influential on Ronnie at that point nichomachus Mar 2016 #150
Wow liberals usually do not call women that treestar Mar 2016 #162
Is there anything you won't excuse for Hillary? /nt Marr Mar 2016 #168
Is there anything you won't make into some big evil? treestar Mar 2016 #261
There you go again. It's no big deal to you. Marr Mar 2016 #263
As the article above states, Rock reached out to her and Ronnie and "she refused to help" Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #238
why did she have any duty to get him treatment? treestar Mar 2016 #262
Where's the lie in what I said? Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #264
Yeah, this is deeply fucked up. Aldo Leopold Mar 2016 #137
I remember Whoopi Goldberg drug her something fierce ardnas58 Mar 2016 #139
Leave her alone. She was taking sniper fire when she made the comments. NightWatcher Mar 2016 #143
lol TheDormouse Mar 2016 #254
Surely her advisors briefed her on the facts of the truth ardnas58 Mar 2016 #154
Sadly, she shouldn't need advisers to know the truth...she lived through that era. N/t Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #241
Geez Louise. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #155
No she did not misspeak. TM99 Mar 2016 #164
Yes. She was against it when she was senator d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #185
Yes. The Taylor Branch article is particularly enlightening unc70 Mar 2016 #228
Neither do I d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #266
Poll Driven noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #157
Misspoke?? please, give me a break. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #165
Good gawd, this is totally unbelievable complete bullshit about Reagan!!!! Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #173
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #174
Hillary's Republican roots are showing. polichick Mar 2016 #177
Indeed. First support for Reagan's contras in Nicaraqua and now this. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #179
Yipes. The Clinton fan club is now the Reagan fan club Doctor_J Mar 2016 #183
It really is! Fist support for the contras and now this. Hello? Moral rudder? Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #189
HRC "the most disgusting person in the world" berningman Mar 2016 #184
No, that's Al-Baghdadi. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #221
This is the ultra-rich bubble she occupies.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #186
Ray-Gun's Legacy Regarding HIV-AIDS JGug1 Mar 2016 #193
K and R (nt) bigwillq Mar 2016 #199
Whoa. That is some inexcusable and totally offensive revisionist history. Barack_America Mar 2016 #200
How can any LGBT person possibly vote for her after this? nt Zorra Mar 2016 #201
Let me be very clear.... Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #202
Praising Nancy Raygun promoting a thoughtful conversation.... Anastasia_N Mar 2016 #207
She is late to the party again floppyboo Mar 2016 #208
What the hell is *wrong* with her?? bvf Mar 2016 #211
Yep autorank Mar 2016 #212
For those that missed Clinton's conversation with Andrea Mitchell... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #213
Watching the entire interview makes it crystal clear that she did not "misspeak" MNBrewer Mar 2016 #222
The interviewer didn't challenge her? malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #259
You people are crazy videohead5 Mar 2016 #215
I am crazy for being angry at Clinton, when she praises a BIGOTED BITCH who, Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #220
About Africa and crazy sarge43 Mar 2016 #224
That wasn't a mistake... Docreed2003 Mar 2016 #245
Praising the G*ddamned REAGANS for their "silent" AIDS activism? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #218
Rock Hudson Disease? Or Just Among Those IV Drug-Using Super Predators? DrFunkenstein Mar 2016 #225
This is so sad. unflapped Mar 2016 #226
Strange. I find it amusing. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #227
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Mar 2016 #233
Kick (nt) bigwillq Mar 2016 #236
It was impossible to have cared about the AIDS epidemic at the time and not be furious with Reagan Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #243
This episode only points to one thing randr Mar 2016 #246
Hillary Recalls Reagans Killing HIV/AIDS in Oval Office Ambush LS_Editor Mar 2016 #260
Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does cantbeserious Mar 2016 #268
Wow!!!! This awful quote makes me want to ignore the fascist Donald Trump and focus all my... NNadir Mar 2016 #269
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