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In reply to the discussion: Hillary's full quote. It is worse than I thought. I am furious [View all]Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)14. When AIDS was funny.
The Reagan Administrations Unearthed Response to the AIDS Crisis Is Chilling
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis
One of the most prominent stains on the reputation of the much-mythologized Reagan administration was its response, or lack of response, to the AIDS crisis as it began to ravage American cities in the early and mid-1980s. President Reagan famously (though, not famously enough) didnt himself publicly mention AIDS until 1985, when more than 5,000 people, most of them gay men, had already been killed by the disease. Filmmaker Scott Calonicos new documentary short, When AIDS Was Funny, exclusively debuting on VF.com, shows how the Reagan administration reacted to the mounting problem in chilling fashion. Not even Reagans appointed mouthpiece, notorious press secretary Larry Speakes, had much to say about the crisis beyond derisive laughter.
Using never-before-heard audio tapes from three separate press conferences, in 1982, 1983, and 1984, When AIDS Was Funny illustrates how the reporter Lester Kinsolving, a conservative (and not at all gay-friendly) fixture in the White House press corps, was consistently scoffed at when he posed urgent questions about the AIDS epidemic. With snickering, homophobic jokes and a disturbing air of uninterest, Speakes dismisses Kinsolvings concerns about the escalating problem. Lester was known as somewhat of a kook and a crank (many people still feel the same way), says Calonico. But, at the time, he was just a journalist asking questions only to be mocked by both the White House and his peers.
What Calonico has compiled, juxtaposing the deeply troubling audio with images of AIDS patients at Seattles Bailey-Boushay House in the 1990s, is an infuriating summation of the Reagan administrations fatal inaction in confronting a generation-defining tragedy. Watch the concise, damning short above, but be warned: it will make you angry.
Using never-before-heard audio tapes from three separate press conferences, in 1982, 1983, and 1984, When AIDS Was Funny illustrates how the reporter Lester Kinsolving, a conservative (and not at all gay-friendly) fixture in the White House press corps, was consistently scoffed at when he posed urgent questions about the AIDS epidemic. With snickering, homophobic jokes and a disturbing air of uninterest, Speakes dismisses Kinsolvings concerns about the escalating problem. Lester was known as somewhat of a kook and a crank (many people still feel the same way), says Calonico. But, at the time, he was just a journalist asking questions only to be mocked by both the White House and his peers.
What Calonico has compiled, juxtaposing the deeply troubling audio with images of AIDS patients at Seattles Bailey-Boushay House in the 1990s, is an infuriating summation of the Reagan administrations fatal inaction in confronting a generation-defining tragedy. Watch the concise, damning short above, but be warned: it will make you angry.
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Hillary's full quote. It is worse than I thought. I am furious [View all]
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
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The first lady who looked away: Nancy and the Reagans' troubling Aids legacy
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#1
Last week Bill Maher did a commentary about Republicans inability to empathize
dflprincess
Mar 2016
#188
I could be Hillary is having memory issues. If she didn't remember and had those remarks
brewens
Mar 2016
#276
This is from Larry Kramer's retelling, I used to believe it too. But they did increase the budget
bettyellen
Mar 2016
#4
Because it is greatly exaggerated.Funding jumped from 8 million in 82 to 26 m in 83- at Regan's
bettyellen
Mar 2016
#30
"Revisionist history about Reagan must be rejected. Researchers, historians and AIDS experts who
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#40
San Francisco's AIDS funding was larger than Reagan's for an entire nation and he
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#43
There is a big difference between doing nothing, and what actually happened. I have found that most
bettyellen
Mar 2016
#57
Do you understand. San Francisco, a city of 650,000 people had a larger AIDS budget than
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#62
I get that SF is the wealthiest progressive city in the US, and was hardest hit by the epidemic.
bettyellen
Mar 2016
#68
If, for example, an amount doubled from ten cents to 20 cents and then to 40 cents...
Herman4747
Mar 2016
#110
You are just wrong. I was there. Things happened, but Reagan did not do them. Reagan resisted them.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#66
This is a flat out lie: "This drastic lack of funding would continue through the Reagan years. "
bettyellen
Mar 2016
#69
True, but the posts I have seen say NOTHING was being done for years, when that is completely
bettyellen
Mar 2016
#251
Try absorbing this. Nancy refused to help her friend, Rock Hudson when he fled this country to try
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#187
Wow, are you missing the whole point. You really are a unusual Hillary fan. nt
Logical
Mar 2016
#121
Raygun's press secretary laughed and made homophobic jokes about it. Hillary has no shame.
morningfog
Mar 2016
#6
Beyond. These people are beyond despicable. I never knew this about the Regans.
Cavallo
Mar 2016
#88
seems like politicians like to clean up history, I remember people demanding it be addresses
hollysmom
Mar 2016
#10
But when Ron ended his silence what he said was just awful.... April 2, 1987
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#36
She is a great admirer of the Presidency of Ronald Reagan which is very telling and scary to me. nm
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#17
That's what I mean - talk about her fight against drug abuse or Alzheimer's work -
closeupready
Mar 2016
#20
maybe it's a compulsion to self-aggrandize - insert herself into the (false) Nancy story...
Merryland
Mar 2016
#28
I've been told via PM that white-washing the record of monsters is "good manners".
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#26
Fuck that noise. "Good manners" is to give someone credit for something they've done,
winter is coming
Mar 2016
#42
I am just stunned that she would say this. Truth in the in the Guardian today:
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#15
+1. I couldn't even begin to guess how many funerals and memorial services
winter is coming
Mar 2016
#23
13 Times The Reagan White House Press Briefing Erupted With Laughter Over AIDS
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#21
I wish the attitude displayed in that exchange was a thing from the past, it is not.
Jackie Wilson Said
Mar 2016
#79
People feel too obligated to say something good about the recently departed. It needs to stop.
eppur_se_muova
Mar 2016
#32
People are gonna tie themselves in knots trying to eulogize Dick Cheney, Rupert Murdoch, ...
eppur_se_muova
Mar 2016
#274
She's going to hear a lot about this. Here's some of what's already being said:
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#33
Reagan's AIDSGATE excerpts from "The Truth About Reagan and AIDS" by Michael Bronski
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#35
That allusion to the Palmolive tv commercials prob goes over the younger folks' heads nt
TheDormouse
Mar 2016
#250
She told an insulting lie for no reason other than to shit on the memory of thousands of AIDS dead.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#54
Clearly, you have no clue what "logical fallacy" means; your Repy 46 did what I said;
merrily
Mar 2016
#198
No, you're attacking the people who attack what she said for something entirely unrelated
MNBrewer
Mar 2016
#219
It's understandable. She doesn't *actually* give a shit about it, so why would she know? /nt
Marr
Mar 2016
#55
She spun a narrative. "It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#67
It was a national conversation sparked by the Reagans... It sounded like this:
elehhhhna
Mar 2016
#134
If it's a recurring charge via PayPal, you can go in and cancel/deny it. n/t
winter is coming
Mar 2016
#89
Unfortunately not, it was by providing my card information on their donation page.
Amimnoch
Mar 2016
#90
Just when I thought the Clintons could not tell bigger fibs here comes something sick
dr60omg
Mar 2016
#85
That was a really low blow. The Reagan's did every thing in their power to avoid the AIDS Crisis.
Dont call me Shirley
Mar 2016
#95
Once you make an 'error' voting for a bullshit war, 'error' becomes acceptable...
Ivan Kaputski
Mar 2016
#136
I wish Hillary's versions of the truth were more true. Unfortunately, they are not.
highprincipleswork
Mar 2016
#105
that is how they roll: they trot out all these great things the Dems have done in her defense,
MisterP
Mar 2016
#265
Just look at the comments in the first portion of this for Reagan apologists... It's disgusting
Docreed2003
Mar 2016
#234
The way the Reagans handled the AIDS crisis is one of the most shameful periods in our history.
PeaceNikki
Mar 2016
#107
First Goldwater Girl, now a Reagan Democrat. How can HRC shills support this Republican
Feeling the Bern
Mar 2016
#117
Even worse. She started that 1st sentence "The other point I wanted to make too is..."
suffragette
Mar 2016
#123
Lame excuses. We know Nancy did not do what Hillary claimed she and Ron did n/t
arcane1
Mar 2016
#151
As the article above states, Rock reached out to her and Ronnie and "she refused to help"
Docreed2003
Mar 2016
#238
Sadly, she shouldn't need advisers to know the truth...she lived through that era. N/t
Docreed2003
Mar 2016
#241
Good gawd, this is totally unbelievable complete bullshit about Reagan!!!!
Major Hogwash
Mar 2016
#173
It really is! Fist support for the contras and now this. Hello? Moral rudder?
Luminous Animal
Mar 2016
#189
Whoa. That is some inexcusable and totally offensive revisionist history.
Barack_America
Mar 2016
#200
Watching the entire interview makes it crystal clear that she did not "misspeak"
MNBrewer
Mar 2016
#222
I am crazy for being angry at Clinton, when she praises a BIGOTED BITCH who,
Betty Karlson
Mar 2016
#220
It was impossible to have cared about the AIDS epidemic at the time and not be furious with Reagan
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2016
#243