2016 Postmortem

truebrit71

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194. You're the "Hillary is a liar" guy, right?

Reply to stevenleser (Reply #193)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:16 PM

Mar 2016

Well, back in 2008 anyway....

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I voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton today [View all] struggle4progress Mar 2016 OP

About that rolodex: ret5hd Mar 2016 #1

K for Kissinger. The M stands for Money and has 90% of her contacts under it. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #5

SOB Kissinger was SOS under SOB POTUS Nixon struggle4progress Mar 2016 #21

Do you always talk about your friends friends like that??? ret5hd Mar 2016 #49

Why are you implying Kissinger is her friend? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #59

Implying??? I am accusing!!! ret5hd Mar 2016 #66

You implied Struggle For Progress is her friend. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #71

"friends friends" -- i.e. twice removed. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #77

good job gabeana Mar 2016 #80

So, she has had years to learn that Kissinger Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #55

+1000 MissDeeds Mar 2016 #41

If she's still using a Rolodex, then she shouldn't be president. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #114

I congratulate you on exercising your rights NWCorona Mar 2016 #2

I applaud your courage in taking the risk to actually publicize this around here. NBachers Mar 2016 #3

Interesting isn't it still_one Mar 2016 #76

My condolences ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #4

What a clever retort! Where can I download the app? struggle4progress Mar 2016 #22

Amen JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #6

It's telling... gcomeau Mar 2016 #7

I wonder where Obama would be on that chart. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #12

Based on 2008 plottings, about a square left of Clinton... gcomeau Mar 2016 #23

Corrected Chart... stevenleser Mar 2016 #128

The bottom one is the Liar axis Steve Lesser 2008? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #192

Don't know who that is. That is not my name. stevenleser Mar 2016 #193

You're the "Hillary is a liar" guy, right? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #194

Nope, not the name you spelled. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #195

Here's the link in case anyone is confused... truebrit71 Mar 2016 #196

Still no chart there. Did you take geometry in high school? nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #204

Oh Stevie, it is hard to take you seriously LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #232

That's OK, my candidate is the one that will win. You will HAVE to take that seriously... stevenleser Mar 2016 #233

We know that's all you care about. We know. LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #234

Good. And of course it's ad hominem. Its a superficial derailing of the issues that has no bearing stevenleser Mar 2016 #235

... mcar Mar 2016 #237

Well said!!! NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #241

Precise. Cogent. Succinct. Truthful. Bravo n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #242

Pretty sure no-one called Bernie Sanders a liar eight years ago... and then did a complete 180... truebrit71 Mar 2016 #243

Oh, it most certainly is all about issues LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #246

The folks whose opinions mean something to me, don't agree. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #247

Again, we know. Hillary fans, including yourself, have made it abundantly clear LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #248

That. Right there! ^^^^ n/t ebayfool Mar 2016 #16

If you want progressive policies, you have to work for them, just like it was a job struggle4progress Mar 2016 #25

Ayup. gcomeau Mar 2016 #29

If you get Sanders the nomination, I'll work to help elect him struggle4progress Mar 2016 #40

You can stop worrying about that stampede to the right in your OP. gcomeau Mar 2016 #45

(1) I'm not convinced Trump will be the Republican nominee: the GOP seems in disarray, struggle4progress Mar 2016 #47

(1) Regardless of GOP nominee gcomeau Mar 2016 #50

Match-ups are still volatile. I expect you talking about the February match-ups struggle4progress Mar 2016 #57

I expect I'm talking about the trend of match up polling in general. gcomeau Mar 2016 #58

That changed recently as the country started to learn more about Sanders CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #210

Care to point to the polling you're referring to? -eom gcomeau Mar 2016 #211

One-on-one matchups ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #81

You misunderstand the relevance of the data. gcomeau Mar 2016 #83

The match-ups are meaningless ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #84

As opposed to how they'll be sweetness and light with Clinton right? gcomeau Mar 2016 #86

They've been attacking HRC ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #88

We know a few things. gcomeau Mar 2016 #90

That is simply your opinion that you arrogantly claim as fact. JTFrog Mar 2016 #104

Which part exactly is my opinion or hyperbolic? gcomeau Mar 2016 #120

If you thought this reply would change my mind, I'm sorry, JTFrog Mar 2016 #122

I was stating a simple fact not making an argument. gcomeau Mar 2016 #124

That you see your opinion as fact is still really arrogant. n/t JTFrog Mar 2016 #140

That I see the fact that it is *the consensus* opinion... gcomeau Mar 2016 #141

You have a right to your own opinion, but not to just make shit up and call it fact. JTFrog Mar 2016 #143

No that is observation of her entire record... gcomeau Mar 2016 #154

Exactly and that chart they posted is meaningless. I have my own... stevenleser Mar 2016 #135

Your chart is objectively insane. gcomeau Mar 2016 #155

Nope, it is just as valid as the one you posted, which has been my point all along. stevenleser Mar 2016 #160

Is that so? gcomeau Mar 2016 #164

LMAO, see my #161. Game, set match. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #165

If you mean... gcomeau Mar 2016 #167

See my #169 nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #170

Yes I saw. gcomeau Mar 2016 #172

Thanks for the usual Bernie cliches ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #157

I think the concern should be... gcomeau Mar 2016 #158

Interesting. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #175

I'm assuming... gcomeau Mar 2016 #176

Oh, yeah, that's a great idea. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #178

Yes, it is. gcomeau Mar 2016 #180

Mm hmm, fabulous. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #181

Sigh... gcomeau Mar 2016 #182

I am aware of those 19 states. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #183

Amazing... gcomeau Mar 2016 #184

For your own edification ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #191

And for yours... gcomeau Mar 2016 #202

You have answered NOTHING. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #205

She says in reply to my perfectly clear answer. -eom gcomeau Mar 2016 #207

I have been reading the NanceGreggs vs. gcomeau debate CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #213

Which point, exactly, do you claim I disregarded? gcomeau Mar 2016 #214

You at first ignored and then never adequately countered... CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #215

Nonsense. gcomeau Mar 2016 #216

In debates it's bad form to argue with the judge CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #224

In real life it's juvenile... gcomeau Mar 2016 #225

Your entitled to your opinion CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #226

You neglected to counter my point... gcomeau Mar 2016 #228

She's really one tough cookie! struggle4progress Mar 2016 #116

Clinton has never been tested Lordquinton Mar 2016 #212

Don't worry, I corrected the chart below... stevenleser Mar 2016 #134

+1 nt Quayblue Mar 2016 #219

Corrected Chart... stevenleser Mar 2016 #129

Sigh... gcomeau Mar 2016 #131

Sigh stevenleser Mar 2016 #133

And repeat... gcomeau Mar 2016 #138

And repeat... stevenleser Mar 2016 #149

Progressive? I got a bridge to sell ya.. Uglystick Mar 2016 #93

But there's no interest in working year after year for progressive issues. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #236

The real deal is a long hard scholgg uphill over rough ground in bad weather struggle4progress Mar 2016 #238

try to make whatever progress we can actually make. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #239

Exactly! pandr32 Mar 2016 #39

Anybody can draw a diagram rock Mar 2016 #103

This one was generated by non partisan analysts. gcomeau Mar 2016 #121

Corrected Chart... stevenleser Mar 2016 #127

Insane chart maybe. gcomeau Mar 2016 #130

And that's the point. Anyone can plot points on a chart. Who says their plotting is better than mine stevenleser Mar 2016 #132

The fact that their plotting was.. gcomeau Mar 2016 #137

According to whom? That plotting system was developed by Libertarians to foster the belief stevenleser Mar 2016 #147

Bull fucking shit gcomeau Mar 2016 #153

Except I have proof. Here it is, it was a Libertarian construct. stevenleser Mar 2016 #161

Wow, that was stupider than expected. gcomeau Mar 2016 #166

Yes, your lack of knowledge on something you were vigorously defending was. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #169

Holy shit, you're actually still trying to defend your position. gcomeau Mar 2016 #171

Holy shit, you're still trying to defend a Libertarian chart! ROFLMAO!!! nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #173

Yes, just like all those nazi gas cans. gcomeau Mar 2016 #174

+ struggle4progress Mar 2016 #186

Thanks, astonishing to find someone so vehemently defending something they do not really stevenleser Mar 2016 #189

Like when you called Hillary a liar? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #197

Nope, no chart there. Not even close to a nice try. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #198

I took the time to read your 2008 endorsement and the 2016 endorsement. Uglystick Mar 2016 #145

Besides the fact that what you wrote is beyond trite, I should care why? nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #148

Here's the link to "Hillary is a liar"... truebrit71 Mar 2016 #199

Still no chart there. You do know what a chart is, right? nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #203

Care to answer any of my questions? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #208

You think I should reward someone for completely threadjacking a discussion? stevenleser Mar 2016 #209

And yet you continue to respond. So, when did she stop lying Steve? truebrit71 Mar 2016 #220

What a compelling graph. Thanks for posting it. Nt AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #136

Yes, it is time for a woman to top the ticket VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #8

Sorry, she's not the right woman for President. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #9

Agree, not this woman. We need new ideas, not the same old, same old. Paper Roses Mar 2016 #37

Ferraro turned out to be a bad VP choice, not having anything to do with being a woman but rather... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #10

Your name is "struggle4progress". Hillary ain't it. n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #11

^^^ +100 ^^^^ Karma13612 Mar 2016 #62

Maybe real politics is a bit like hard mountaineering: struggle4progress Mar 2016 #118

But you do at least need to move in the general direction... gcomeau Mar 2016 #139

Anyone who really gets that would not support Sanders. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #150

Sad. SamKnause Mar 2016 #13

Complete sentences are a good way to communicate ideas. Single words struggle4progress Mar 2016 #27

Let me spell it out for you then. SamKnause Mar 2016 #28

Neither did your much longer screed BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #35

I like both. I'll happily work for either. They have different sterengths and weaknesses. struggle4progress Mar 2016 #64

You have my deepest sympathy. Punkingal Mar 2016 #14

Oh, another clever retort! I'm just dying to download that app! struggle4progress Mar 2016 #31

I'm sorry....I was actually kidding. Punkingal Mar 2016 #43

If you like Sanders, get him the nomination, and I'll bust butt for him later this year struggle4progress Mar 2016 #44

I'm doing what I can. Punkingal Mar 2016 #48

So, you've decided to change your name? Trajan Mar 2016 #15

Bwahahaha! ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #19

Struggle4centrist? (I keed, I keed). n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #46

Struggle2SellIt Marr Mar 2016 #163

Long live income inequality. Gregorian Mar 2016 #17

Gave up the struggle? BillZBubb Mar 2016 #18

Congratulations on exercising your right to vote, and .... salinsky Mar 2016 #20

I have actually read your entire post before replying. All members oasis Mar 2016 #24

That kind of thievery is no better than fun n serious Mar 2016 #75

But if the Red Sox could trade for better pitching they oasis Mar 2016 #78

While I strongly disagree with your gender-based arguments... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #26

Today, because of Obama, we have a whole generation coming up that thinks struggle4progress Mar 2016 #53

I'm not sure we're on the same page on that point. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author fun n serious Mar 2016 #74

Qualified, yes. Uglystick Mar 2016 #94

Fine reasons, all. I voted for Bernie on March 1. morningfog Mar 2016 #30

Sanders is a good fella. I ain't gonna be a-weepin and a-moanin if he's our nominee struggle4progress Mar 2016 #70

So happy to hear this!!! GO HILLARY!!!! beaglelover Mar 2016 #32

Awesome! You made the right choice! leftofcool Mar 2016 #33

Nice post and congrats jcgoldie Mar 2016 #34

K & R Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #36

One word disqualifies Hillary's candidacy that outweighs all others.... seekthetruth Mar 2016 #38

The role of the US in world fossil fuel consumption is a disgrace struggle4progress Mar 2016 #42

As a Secretary of State, she spent a lot of time travelling PROMOTING her fracking stance. Uglystick Mar 2016 #95

and I absolutely support your right to vote for who you want as long as you vote. hollysmom Mar 2016 #51

Thanks, struggle4progess! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #52

I guess I'll never understand why marions ghost Mar 2016 #54

No. If she makes it to the GE, she loses, and everybody will be saying: JimDandy Mar 2016 #60

You can't show me a single election where conservatives won and then everybody said, struggle4progress Mar 2016 #61

the term for Dems moving to right Pat Riots Mar 2016 #109

I'm sorry ibegurpard Mar 2016 #63

Yeah, she's got "experience." Just not the good kind. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #65

I'm sorry you are being attacked for your vote Lucinda Mar 2016 #67

meh. it's an anonymous internet bulletin board. struggle4progress Mar 2016 #99

We always do! Lucinda Mar 2016 #100

Excelent Choice... timlot Mar 2016 #68

Thank you for voting. grossproffit Mar 2016 #69

I voted For Hillary Today Fluffs39 Mar 2016 #72

k&r DesertRat Mar 2016 #73

I will welcome you as an ally when Bernie gets the nomination. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #79

If that day comes, I will proudly support Sanders struggle4progress Mar 2016 #119

I know you will, you have integrity. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #152

The Clinton camp will do the same when Hillary gets the nomination. grossproffit Mar 2016 #142

Good luck Kalidurga Mar 2016 #151

Well, you do you. There's one flaw to your argument, though... Scootaloo Mar 2016 #82

Good post. My view is, a vote for Hill is a vote against Rove, the Kochs and the rest of the VRWC . ucrdem Mar 2016 #85

You have it completely backwards. Uglystick Mar 2016 #96

Ugly, we hardly knew ye. nt ucrdem Mar 2016 #217

Such a tragic loss! struggle4progress Mar 2016 #245

Shocker. merrily Mar 2016 #87

Get some chocolate and take a long warm bath and the depression will pass pdsimdars Mar 2016 #89

I have some problem with your arguments, in view of recent comments: Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #91

No. you voted for Trump. Uglystick Mar 2016 #92

Since some people seem to be confused, I'll note Trumpkopf wasn't even on my Dem primary ballot struggle4progress Mar 2016 #97

You did, by voting for the least electable Democrat Uglystick Mar 2016 #144

hey you left your sunglasses . . . ucrdem Mar 2016 #231

Please let us know how you feel about this choice a year from now. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #98

After they privatize SS. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #106

Excellent! monicaangela Mar 2016 #101

If he's our nominee, I'll support him whole-heartedly struggle4progress Mar 2016 #115

That's great! monicaangela Mar 2016 #117

So you pretty much said you'll vote for her because she's a woman Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #102

K & R Iliyah Mar 2016 #105

FFS demwing Mar 2016 #107

Thanks for your vote and explanation. MineralMan Mar 2016 #108

Your vote is yours, but it saddens me that you didn't say she is better on Democratic issues aikoaiko Mar 2016 #110

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! postatomic Mar 2016 #111

I have to say that this surprises me. panader0 Mar 2016 #112

I voted for Hillary also. cwydro Mar 2016 #113

Very nice! Thank you for the post! Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #123

Well done. I get to do that honor in about Weeks. riversedge Mar 2016 #125

I hope you change youf mind and vote for Bernie to prevent a Hitler-like Trump. Uglystick Mar 2016 #146

rolodex Hiraeth Mar 2016 #126

Well said. I did the same earlier today. Clinton for the win! K & R nt Persondem Mar 2016 #156

Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2016 #159

I get to on Tuesday. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #162

I did too Sunsky Mar 2016 #168

She is a pathological liar and I'm deeply disappointed in you. Fearless Mar 2016 #177

Awesome! An anonymous poster on the internet calls her a pathological liar! struggle4progress Mar 2016 #185

To be fair, so did Steve Leser in 2008. Here's a direct link. truebrit71 Mar 2016 #200

How exciting! The internet is such a wondrous thing! struggle4progress Mar 2016 #206

The poutrage is strong in this one. Fearless Mar 2016 #218

I can't wait to vote for her! shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #179

Good luck to your candidate LostOne4Ever Mar 2016 #187

Luck won't play a big role in the November outcome struggle4progress Mar 2016 #188

Republican Nightmares Come True As Hillary Clinton Destroys Trump At CNN riversedge Mar 2016 #227

Kick oasis Mar 2016 #190

Congratulations tazkcmo Mar 2016 #201

There are at least 25 million qualified and progressive women that would get my vote long before HRC hobbit709 Mar 2016 #221

Whoa! A single copy of the primary ballot in your state must run to 500 reams! struggle4progress Mar 2016 #222

You're funny. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #223

Voted for Hil, then kicked out of her group at DU!!? Mary Mac Mar 2016 #229

I voted for Hillary Rodham Clinton today AlbertCat Mar 2016 #230

You made the right choice. William769 Mar 2016 #240

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #244