2016 Postmortem

Warren DeMontague

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127. Apparently not as overwhelmingly as they were supposed to.

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:26 PM

Mar 2016

She was supposed to have this thing wrapped up a long time ago.

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Just a reminder that Democrats overwhelmingly support Hillary [View all] bigtree Mar 2016 OP

Then thank the goddess for the Independents! peacebird Mar 2016 #1

Actually some of us are underwhelmed. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #2

ageed. incredibly underwhelmed and frankly, who trusts polls and pundits anymore roguevalley Mar 2016 #88

Lots of us are underwhelmed... kristopher Mar 2016 #121

if only we could rig the general election so that only Democrats got to vote she do fine. Vote2016 Mar 2016 #3

Ah, but it is very much already rigged! marew Mar 2016 #64

Was this poll taken before or after she praised Nancy? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #4

Just a reminder: To Win in November, We'll need the support... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #5

That's what you said about Michigan GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #6

Dems can't win w/o independent's votes. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #7

that's what we need bigtree Mar 2016 #11

More like a hostage rescue mission. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #16

^^^ marions ghost Mar 2016 #17

party rescue by independents who will mostly vote republican in the general? bigtree Mar 2016 #23

What makes you think Independents will vote R? HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #25

All they do is pull nonsense from their asses and pretend it's true. Just like Hillary n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #54

I consider myself an independent because I am too far to the LEFT Svafa Mar 2016 #32

most polls split the affiliation of indies down the middle between parties bigtree Mar 2016 #66

Proof? HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #73

Gallup bigtree Mar 2016 #79

That doesn't prove R-leaning Independents are voting in Dem primary. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #81

well, you don't disprove it either bigtree Mar 2016 #87

logic and experience are fibbing then Pat Riots Mar 2016 #105

If those polls are correct, it means that HALF of a very large Svafa Mar 2016 #76

They're just making shit up. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #82

Is this a classic case of projection? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #99

Same here. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #101

If they do what difference will it make who the Dem candidate is? beedle Mar 2016 #114

+1000000000 UglyGreed Mar 2016 #58

Democrats can't lose calguy Mar 2016 #35

Don't bet the farm on it. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #47

Just a reminder that a coronation has not taken place Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #8

some states regard them as spoilers in our Democratic primary bigtree Mar 2016 #13

In my state 40% of voters are Indys marions ghost Mar 2016 #19

the problem for your candidate bigtree Mar 2016 #27

That's why I support open primaries marions ghost Mar 2016 #62

They would give a damn if Dems quit pandering to the Right Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #90

"our" Democratic primary Armstead Mar 2016 #30

So you're not that big on the democratic process I take it... R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #42

Dem establishment represents the 1%... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #52

Dump em all. My hope is that Bernie wins so R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #59

Some will return to the GOP from where they came. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #69

The present GOP will reject them outright. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #74

I think we'll soon see a realignment... HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #77

They can go start a "3rd way party" Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #92

This is why we keep losing in the mid terms Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #91

Sadly true. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #109

That's not very Democratic. dchill Mar 2016 #49

If the Dems consider them spoilers Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #89

I am curious about the last column, Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #9

Which is different than "liberals/progressives" overwhelmingly support. gcomeau Mar 2016 #10

Well, great! Then - why the need to demand loyalty oaths, disparage Bernie, and djean111 Mar 2016 #12

sit back an relax bigtree Mar 2016 #14

"independents hijack our party's primary"...... marions ghost Mar 2016 #21

I don't welcome spoilers of any stripe bigtree Mar 2016 #28

You dont want Independents marions ghost Mar 2016 #33

What a short-sighted person you appear to be. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #46

I am relaxed, really. My family voted for Bernie a few days ago. djean111 Mar 2016 #22

"We, as Democrats right now, should tap into the discontent of Republicans. I want some Obama Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #29

One question for you. gcomeau Mar 2016 #48

I view the Democratic party as a coalition; a vehicle for advancing progressive ideals bigtree Mar 2016 #97

Ahem... gcomeau Mar 2016 #107

look at the southern states bigtree Mar 2016 #149

Try actually reading my post. gcomeau Mar 2016 #150

those states suit your narrative bigtree Mar 2016 #152

Yes, they do actually. gcomeau Mar 2016 #154

Do deeply consider the following proposition Herman4747 Mar 2016 #57

The hijacking happened years ago timmymoff Mar 2016 #155

Independents make up the plurality of voters. basselope Mar 2016 #15

You can NOT win with only Dem support pinebox Mar 2016 #18

Indys are aware the GOP will install 3 Scalia clones on SCOTUS. oasis Mar 2016 #93

Barack Obama, Feb 2008: ""We are bringing together Democrats and independents, and yes, some Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #20

Why remind us that the majority of Americans are not too bright, and vote against their best 2banon Mar 2016 #24

Thank you for pointing out another Clinton vulnerability. Carlo Marx Mar 2016 #26

Cheney, Bush and Kissinger love her Ichingcarpenter Mar 2016 #36

most Democrats support both Bernie and Clinton bigtree Mar 2016 #38

So if Sanders somehow wins the Dem nomination, it will be because of non-Democratic voters... DCBob Mar 2016 #31

No it doesn't. Kentonio Mar 2016 #39

They should join the Democratic party if they want to help pick the Democratic nominee. DCBob Mar 2016 #56

Because it's a two party system Kentonio Mar 2016 #70

It would be better to be inside fighting for changes than on the outside throwing rocks. DCBob Mar 2016 #84

Why? How exactly has that worked out for progressives so far? Kentonio Mar 2016 #98

The more progressives on the inside the more likely progressive things will get pushed. DCBob Mar 2016 #104

Huh? "Terribly wrong"--what a weird thing to say marions ghost Mar 2016 #41

Of course I have no problem with non-D's voting for us in November.. we want them all. DCBob Mar 2016 #51

Seems not right to marions ghost Mar 2016 #60

Well I disagree. DCBob Mar 2016 #63

Defection doesn't have as much impact as people like to think marions ghost Mar 2016 #68

Well on that day, Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #130

Joker. DCBob Mar 2016 #133

Right, and what do I win if we nominate the uninspiring "inevitable" candidate being foisted on us Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #138

Hillary Clinton may be the most qualified and knowledgeable candidate to ever to run for President. DCBob Mar 2016 #144

Another line someone made up because it sounds good, but is totally meaningless. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #146

Perhaps there are others in our long history who were somewhat more qualified. DCBob Mar 2016 #147

I'm familiar with her resume, thanks. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #148

Just a reminder, Independents win general elections, Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #34

We should also take into consideration that large numbers of Democrats have Cal33 Mar 2016 #37

The more this goes on the more I tire of party politics marions ghost Mar 2016 #50

Exactly. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #65

They need to wake up quick marions ghost Mar 2016 #83

Outstanding comment. Recent social saltpoint Mar 2016 #151

I imagine they're pretty stunned marions ghost Mar 2016 #158

Agree, marions ghost. Especially that saltpoint Mar 2016 #159

with ya marions ghost Mar 2016 #160

Roger that, mg. eom saltpoint Mar 2016 #161

I agree with you. My hope is that Bernie Sanders, among other things, will help Cal33 Mar 2016 #78

There is a rough road ahead for everyone marions ghost Mar 2016 #86

"For once we have a candidate for The Rest of Us and Cal33 Mar 2016 #100

Oh I can see they are doing that marions ghost Mar 2016 #142

So, you favor closed primaries? Funtatlaguy Mar 2016 #40

Which is fine and good during the primaries but during the GE it is much more important to have jillan Mar 2016 #43

And the rest of the country likes Bernie (by your numbers) Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #44

Which is all good and fine coyote Mar 2016 #45

Yes they do and thanks for the reminder riversedge Mar 2016 #53

Interesting statistic, and it shows what sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #55

Okay, I get it Uponthegears Mar 2016 #61

It's just more of the usual. ladyVet Mar 2016 #110

"Go sportsball team and/or local college!" Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #67

Just a reminder: That was also true in the 2008 primary lol nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #71

Democrats are only 30% of the nation. Csainvestor Mar 2016 #72

THIS Is MY REASON For Not Being A Supporter Of Closed ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #75

K & R Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #80

That statistic reflects poorly on the Democratic Party, not Bernie. ladjf Mar 2016 #85

Sanders is ahead in Ohio, Missouri, and Illinois. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #94

he'll split delegates in those states bigtree Mar 2016 #95

BINGO! Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #106

Hillary wins the racist vote! Yay. ladyVet Mar 2016 #113

That is very clear. As do most of the voting left. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #96

! Phlem Mar 2016 #102

I didn't realize only Democrats voted in the general. I learn something every day. greymouse Mar 2016 #103

We should not have open primaries cosmicone Mar 2016 #108

LOL next they should UglyGreed Mar 2016 #112

Democratic party is a private organization cosmicone Mar 2016 #118

Make it 100% next UglyGreed Mar 2016 #123

It is our party -- we shouldn't leave it open to be hijacked. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #124

Big tent indeed UglyGreed Mar 2016 #129

No one stops them from joining the party. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #132

Problem is UglyGreed Mar 2016 #134

Meh ... lot of third parties have been tried cosmicone Mar 2016 #135

Meh no that is not the reason UglyGreed Mar 2016 #136

No... gcomeau Mar 2016 #116

We can win the independents in GE cosmicone Mar 2016 #119

You can win SOME independents in GE. gcomeau Mar 2016 #128

I've seen several analyses in the international press that there are many groups that Number23 Mar 2016 #111

Precisely. Thank you. n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #125

I think geography is going to become more important as time goes on. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #140

"Simply put, Clinton is the choice of her party — its voters and its leaders" Number23 Mar 2016 #115

^^^ THIS ^^^^ n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #126

"The choice of a new generation"™ Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #139

Don't forget that several southern states that Clinton won by wide margins were also open. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #156

I think the discussion on open vs closed primaries is one that is desperately needed Number23 Mar 2016 #162

what do you propose? beedle Mar 2016 #117

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #120

I'm not overwhelmed at all. FEEL THE BERN! hobbit709 Mar 2016 #122

Apparently not as overwhelmingly as they were supposed to. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #127

How's she polling with true scotsmen? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #131

but Democrats don't win elections without independents (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Mar 2016 #137

So, Democrats are about 30 something percent of voters, Republicans a bit less panader0 Mar 2016 #141

Who decided that "efff you" was a good campaign strategy? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #143

The GOP's Great Hope: the Independents....GOP: "Bring us the one they call Bernie" Recoverin_Republican Mar 2016 #145

Do you think Independents are all Republicans? noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #153

Haven't met a single one. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #157