2016 Postmortem

liberal_at_heart

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45. I have a marine brother in Nashville who carries a gun and talks trash about Obama and

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:45 PM

Mar 2016

Clinton all the time especially about Benghazi. I pay very little attention to what she says, but I do disagree with Hillary's hawkish stance on regime change and military intervention. I don't have to be a right wing Benghazi conspiracy theorist to be concerned about her view on military action. It would be nice if we could back off some of the military interventions around the world. Save a few trillion dollars and spend some of that money on SS, education, and healthcare. The reason we can't afford social services anymore is because of the trillions of dollars we spend on war. No to mention the fact that Democrats are deathly afraid to talk about raising taxes and then have to cave to cuts to social services because we don't have enough tax revenue to pay for them.

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Hillary at MSNBC town hall We didn't lose a single life in Libya [View all] RunInCircles Mar 2016 OP

I guess Benghazi is now a bad memory Its Got Electrolytes Mar 2016 #1

#historybyhillary Nt bunnies Mar 2016 #5

its's just like "George Bush kept us safe" tk2kewl Mar 2016 #54

That was exactly my first thought GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #91

Great username! Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #59

I swear deathrind Mar 2016 #78

That's going to leave a mark tomorrow. Kittycat Mar 2016 #79

How many Libyans? Wilms Mar 2016 #2

She is never happier than when she's with a war criminal, seemingly. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #82

that's right - kn . . . sus453 Mar 2016 #108

Their lives don't matter to the neocons. Nyan Mar 2016 #111

There's that pesky American Exceptionalism rearing its ugly head again. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #119

Omg. She didn't do that. Did she? bunnies Mar 2016 #3

Seriously. H2O Man Mar 2016 #36

OH. EM. GEE. The right will flip its collective shit. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #53

I just searched twitter, Clinton Libya Kittycat Mar 2016 #84

if she manages to eek out the nom, restorefreedom Mar 2016 #69

the Ambassador and several other U.S. embassy personnel & untold thousands of Libyans! amborin Mar 2016 #4

Oh man! farleftlib Mar 2016 #7

It is hard to believe. Even harder to believe KPN Mar 2016 #50

Unbelievable. 840high Mar 2016 #67

count the ten Libyans who died trying to protect roguevalley Mar 2016 #147

lost her chance at the Oval Office with stunts like Libya reddread Mar 2016 #6

Guess this is what you call foreign policy 'experience" EndElectoral Mar 2016 #31

I call it criminal malfeasance reddread Mar 2016 #32

This attitude sucks and is why many throughout the world don't like us. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #8

I hate to point this out nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #10

Yeah. I know. It can be so damn depressing sometimes though. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #11

I know nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #15

IS drew more recruits from Libya than anywhere else after that atrocity. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #39

Well, I hate to say this but she might have lost the GE nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #9

With the relatives of those killed in Benghazi as the stars. Punkingal Mar 2016 #13

Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #16

I can only imagine the rage when the families heard Hillary NWCorona Mar 2016 #33

Imagine if they were watching this. 840high Mar 2016 #68

What makes you so sure she'll make it to the GE? Gene Debs Mar 2016 #97

I did not say what will happen nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #99

Well, she's gotta get there before she can lose it. Gene Debs Mar 2016 #101

Yes, but as a poltical observer, not a partisan nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #126

I'm afraid you're right. Nyan Mar 2016 #112

Wow. She's swerving now to step in it. Proceed, Secretary. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #12

Tone Deaf at the very least after you bomb is when the instability occurs every time RunInCircles Mar 2016 #14

Not what she meant, but feel free to keep up your outrage. brooklynite Mar 2016 #17

Again can't connect the dots between military force and what happens after RunInCircles Mar 2016 #21

Dear Civilians: your deaths are very important to us, but we can't be sure what'll happen if we help brooklynite Mar 2016 #23

Help? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #104

Ya, I just felt my jaw drop to the floor Hydra Mar 2016 #114

Actually I not surprised malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #117

I'm sure Hydra Mar 2016 #120

I look forward to being disappointed by President Sanders. morningfog Mar 2016 #43

you won't be. he doesn't bomb children to steal oil and $ roguevalley Mar 2016 #148

Thank you so much for explaining how KPN Mar 2016 #56

This is going to haunt her Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #57

You don't get it. It's not that you can't make a case for the statement being true. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #58

Which fits on a bumper sticker? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #61

👆 This. deathrind Mar 2016 #90

Exactly. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #93

FOR THE FIRST YEAR AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #100

your statements are totally in contrast to the facts, as reported by the NY Times, the BBC, etc.... amborin Mar 2016 #60

A very impolitic thing to say ... earthside Mar 2016 #63

According to Clinton, "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!" Bad Thoughts Mar 2016 #64

Five years later Depaysement Mar 2016 #70

Much better to have been killed or enslaved by Gadhaffi... brooklynite Mar 2016 #71

We're not voting for Qaddafi Depaysement Mar 2016 #74

No, we're voting to Clinton or Sanders...neither of which will be an isolationist. brooklynite Mar 2016 #83

the difference is, Bernie is PERFECT Skittles Mar 2016 #92

And Hillary can do no wrong!!! malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #105

SO ORIGINAL!! Skittles Mar 2016 #124

You started it with the sarcasm malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #128

you started it! Skittles Mar 2016 #130

There was ethnic cleansing in Libya? Depaysement Mar 2016 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author polly7 Mar 2016 #139

Well done Depaysement Mar 2016 #140

Thanks, Depaysement. Yes, the cleansing occurred AFTER the lying 'no-fly-zone' NATO polly7 Mar 2016 #141

re: "Care to explain the difference?" thesquanderer Mar 2016 #137

If she didn't specify a time frame, your post is dishonest. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #73

Sort of like: "In Vermont, everybody knows that I am a socialist" brooklynite Mar 2016 #75

Bernie has been winning elections as a Democratic Socialist for 30 years. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #81

I'm also taking a hell of a chance on a candidate who hasn't been vetted by the Republicans at all. brooklynite Mar 2016 #85

Hillary's crew has been looking for dirt and you know it. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #86

I'm talking about by the Republicans... brooklynite Mar 2016 #88

Clinton and Trump are within the Margin of Error for most polls. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #94

Bernie will be well-funded for the general. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #138

Hillary hasn't been vetted by Democrats noiretextatique Mar 2016 #143

Oh, so your involvement is over when you're done destabilizing a nation? It's just over, like that? AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #98

Well then, "Mission Accomplished", right? eom. Kittycat Mar 2016 #103

+1 Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #107

The subject Chris Matthews was asking her about was regime change Jarqui Mar 2016 #136

Rated: True Dem2 Mar 2016 #18

so it's justified by prefacing it with the word "military". That is dismissive and disrespectful to liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #28

Don't put words in my mouth Dem2 Mar 2016 #30

"This is how conflicts are measured"? Wow. I'm speechless and deeply saddened by what you just said. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #35

Yeah. H2O Man Mar 2016 #40

Toss a few more logical fallacies at me designed to tear at the heart strings Dem2 Mar 2016 #42

I have a marine brother in Nashville who carries a gun and talks trash about Obama and liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #45

I agree Dem2 Mar 2016 #48

Libya is another Iraq noiretextatique Mar 2016 #144

Not buying it Dem2 Mar 2016 #145

She's playing to know-nothings? Duppers Mar 2016 #19

Hayes is another sellout, like Rachel. Very sad what happened at MSNBC. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #110

If Hillary isn't elected president... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #20

RCP was impressed, but for the wrong reasons MisterP Mar 2016 #22

I really hate neocons. TM99 Mar 2016 #27

IOW, she's not responsible for the mess she helped to create in the Middle East. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #77

Do you have a link (or video?) Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #24

See post #22 H2O Man Mar 2016 #41

Thank you Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #47

she prevaricated during the hearings, over and over amborin Mar 2016 #62

I guess she misspoke EndElectoral Mar 2016 #25

They say things happen in threes (not that I'm superstitious) Jarqui Mar 2016 #26

Nice Try. FAIL: See post #17 for the correct answer. nt pkdu Mar 2016 #29

but Wikipedia says... Mudcat Mar 2016 #34

That won't play well during campaign season. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #37

Hell, she's not even going to make it to the Final Four. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #80

To be fair, Ambassador Stevens was killed after our war effort in Libya. Vattel Mar 2016 #38

That is true... DAMANgoldberg Mar 2016 #46

Most Americans couldn't find Libya on a map Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #51

indeed. Merryland Mar 2016 #87

Is she saying she kept Libya safe?? n/t winter is coming Mar 2016 #44

With her recent (last 30 days roughly) gaffes, I getting concerned she has suffered one or more Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #49

The whole Nancy Reagan thing made me thing somethings wrong Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #115

She's had several memorable memory lapses, so, with her M.H., it is worrisome. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #116

That speculation lets her off the hook loyalsister Mar 2016 #122

yes but I think you make my point to at least be concerned at this point. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #123

I suspect she was just talking about the invasion, but there are a few things to keep in mind. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #52

Does she believe the words coming out of her own mouth ? CentralMass Mar 2016 #55

She really can't help it. BeanMusical Mar 2016 #65

Say what? elehhhhna Mar 2016 #66

The implosion continues. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #72

I wonder if Republicans would use this against her in campaign ads. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #76

I'm thinking "Dukakis in a tank" level ads ibegurpard Mar 2016 #129

Sometimes I wonder about Hillary's memory. She seems to forget or 'misspeak' a lot. jalan48 Mar 2016 #89

Another day, another fail. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #95

No way I want to see those ads in the GE Kalidurga Mar 2016 #96

The ads practically write themselves GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #102

Alzheimer's HassleCat Mar 2016 #106

NONE of you get the real outrageous point . . FairWinds Mar 2016 #109

Factually, you are correct Hydra Mar 2016 #118

for sure, Ms./Mr. Hydra . . FairWinds Mar 2016 #121

I'm thinking climate change has us already Hydra Mar 2016 #125

Um, you're talking to the wrong people. ladyVet Mar 2016 #133

Dear Lady Vet - FairWinds Mar 2016 #146

That's what I thought. cpwm17 Mar 2016 #135

Oooof. TwilightGardener Mar 2016 #113

Wow. I'm convinced: NowSam Mar 2016 #127

I wonder what tomorrow's Hillary Hashtag will be n/t Bassomar Mar 2016 #131

#NOBODYDIED Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #134

Well after the bloody coup against Qaddafi. Warren Stupidity Mar 2016 #142