2016 Postmortem

Major Hogwash

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:10 PM

Mar 2016

Or the other OP, but thanks for counting them.

I didn't know there was more than one, but this ain't LBN either.

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Public’s Disgust With the Democratic Party Propels Sanders [View all] silvershadow Mar 2016 OP

This is a constructive , thoughtful post. Thanks! nt ladjf Mar 2016 #1

In twenty years we will see this as a historic moment Baobab Mar 2016 #53

I see Bernie Go Vols Mar 2016 #172

Bernie Sanders has not been vetted. Period. n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #2

That's what primary campaigns are for, isn't it. bklyncowgirl Mar 2016 #12

But he WILL be vetted. If he gets close to the nomination.. asuhornets Mar 2016 #13

Any day now he'll get vetted .......lol Loudestlib Mar 2016 #16

"Right Clinton is still on track to win the nomination." Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #73

Really? asuhornets Mar 2016 #83

Really? YES Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #87

What about asuhornets Mar 2016 #94

Changing the subject already? Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #111

Excellent job at SoS? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #113

her excellent job as SOS AlbertCat Mar 2016 #150

Oh, please. nt SylviaD Mar 2016 #163

Please...oh please AlbertCat Mar 2016 #164

What, exactly, are those excellent accomplishments? n/t elljay Mar 2016 #177

What, exactly, are those excellent accomplishments? AlbertCat Mar 2016 #186

Shouldn't it, now? elljay Mar 2016 #188

the more i learn ellennelle Mar 2016 #151

Neocons is as neocons does. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #157

Link please. n/t ljm2002 Mar 2016 #119

When? n/t Gore1FL Mar 2016 #147

so sorry ellennelle Mar 2016 #152

OMG, I can't believe you just said that. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #178

EXPOSE! Sanders is a democratic socialist! What a shocker! Wait till people get wind of that! imagine2015 Mar 2016 #118

Vetted more than Obama was in 2008, when he went on... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #17

Obama did not beat Hillary Gwhittey Mar 2016 #41

During this primary, Bernie has outperformed EVERY prediction against him. closeupready Mar 2016 #108

I don't know if that is logic or not, but I hope you are right! n/t Gore1FL Mar 2016 #149

I have a feeling that the vetting has been intense and deep. dchill Mar 2016 #35

+1! KPN Mar 2016 #51

Exactly boobooday Mar 2016 #104

They even have to lie about his voting record. dchill Mar 2016 #106

The Clintons have never been shy about using anything and everything to win. bklyncowgirl Mar 2016 #116

If HRC's oppo research and David Brock had found any real dirt on Bernie, we tblue37 Mar 2016 #182

Yes. dchill Mar 2016 #183

I sure hope they don't. snort Mar 2016 #39

Link please. n/t ljm2002 Mar 2016 #120

he's being vetted right now and worst that's been found is wordpix Mar 2016 #45

Bernie's Gun Vote was the correct position. bvar22 Mar 2016 #139

Hillary has -- fully! KPN Mar 2016 #48

True. Here are some of her "accomplishments": Lorien Mar 2016 #129

wow. sadly, i bet this list did not take you a lot of time restorefreedom Mar 2016 #145

That's incredible!!! KPN Mar 2016 #156

Feel free. I borrowed many from another DUer (whose name escapes me) Lorien Mar 2016 #168

it's powerful seeing them listed Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #166

A partial list of why I won't vote for Hillary, but will vote for Bernie: Lorien Mar 2016 #170

Thank you for that list! LittleGirl Mar 2016 #181

You're on to something there! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #52

Yes. I was alerted for my post... asuhornets Mar 2016 #69

It's difficult for me to understand ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #75

So, Hillary has not vetted Bernie? tecelote Mar 2016 #71

Bernie's supporters "complain loudly" about LIES about him. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2016 #85

What types of vetting did you have in mind that should be ladjf Mar 2016 #59

Everything...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #70

"Everything" is a very long list. Would you be willing to narrow ladjf Mar 2016 #72

Here ya go: asuhornets Mar 2016 #76

Bernie has a detailed plan to pay for healthcare expansion and free tuition. Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #100

There is one photo of him during the 60's asuhornets Mar 2016 #102

I presented an article, which you obviously chose not to read. Snarkoleptic Mar 2016 #112

stunning ellennelle Mar 2016 #160

Oh, now that THAT photo has been verified by the photographer, Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #161

There are several photos. nt tblue37 Mar 2016 #184

I would gladly pay a higher tax for healthcare if AllyCat Mar 2016 #185

Which has zero to do with the OP LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #79

The guy's been in Congress for 35 + years. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #80

That's exactly what it seems like...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #81

Why? His actions are public. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #84

No one has any idea asuhornets Mar 2016 #91

No one has any idea how anyone will govern as president. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #93

Yea but asuhornets Mar 2016 #95

That's why people overwhelmingly farleftlib Mar 2016 #96

Bernie asuhornets Mar 2016 #99

I assure you timmymoff Mar 2016 #155

She hasn't weathered the storm. And millions and millions of people DON'T like her, Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #97

Hillary asuhornets Mar 2016 #101

Do you not understand rynestonecowboy Mar 2016 #179

Weathered the storm? beedle Mar 2016 #138

Only to someone who hasn't been paying attention. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2016 #92

I pay attention asuhornets Mar 2016 #103

Back-tracking your lair comment now? WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2016 #105

Hillary has a ton of baggage, Bernie nope Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #122

HELL YES he has! More so than Hillary! Lorien Mar 2016 #128

yea right...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #131

And Clinton has been vetted and found to betray her Party for 1. War in Iraq rhett o rick Mar 2016 #148

in public office 30 years ellennelle Mar 2016 #158

Sanders has been thoroughly vetted, & then some, by Clinton's machine. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #174

Voting for the Iraq war is anti-vetting, so to speak n/t eridani Mar 2016 #180

I look forward to reading Thomas Frank's new book which comes out tomorrow! nt m-lekktor Mar 2016 #3

The argument is far more convincing on the Republican side mythology Mar 2016 #4

Well, she thinks she is anyway... silvershadow Mar 2016 #5

With long time democratic values? daleanime Mar 2016 #47

I disagree. KPN Mar 2016 #63

Actually not hard to say at all. dchill Mar 2016 #110

This is an important discussion floppyboo Mar 2016 #6

Traitors would be the intransigent Republicans who did their best to nullify an entire Presidency.nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #8

No doubt. floppyboo Mar 2016 #11

+10000, thanks wordpix Mar 2016 #46

"NAFTA & its many successors have brought freedom to those who employ but RiverLover Mar 2016 #7

I can see it now; Repubicans can move the entire fiasco of the millions of jobs lost to trade deals DhhD Mar 2016 #24

All excellent points revbones Mar 2016 #50

One big motherfucking kick and recommendation! Bonobo Mar 2016 #9

You got it! nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #10

100% agree. /nt RiverLover Mar 2016 #15

Absolutely! Punkingal Mar 2016 #60

Moses didn't think he was worthy either, but he went on and led. mariawr Mar 2016 #121

This Revolt Has Been Building For Years - The DWS, DNC, DLC, Third-Way Has Only Themselves To Blame cantbeserious Mar 2016 #14

The internet may yet roll back the damage of the Tellecommunications Act. floppyboo Mar 2016 #18

We live with a representative government. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #19

Gerrymandering. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #20

In the House, yes. In the Senate, no. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #22

I don't agree with your thoughts about the next President. He will have a cooperative silvershadow Mar 2016 #23

Agreed. And it will be an opposite situation from Obama. Sanders wiil have the last six years of DhhD Mar 2016 #27

Well before Willy Gwhittey Mar 2016 #44

You think that Republicans will cooperate with a man they see as a Socialist ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #28

I don't expect the Republicans will even retain the House at this point. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #29

You clearly don't understand re-districting and gerrymandering. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #31

You seem without faith or hope. But get back to your numbers and the joy they bring or despair. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #33

Faith and Hope are tools for the religious and do not reflect political reality. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #40

Seems to me that "political reality" is over-rated. KPN Mar 2016 #68

No, they're necessary for pretty much any survival, but work with what ya got. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #78

+1000! KPN Mar 2016 #65

Why waste your time posting. anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #49

I have no intention of hiding under a rock with the makeup of the Supreme Court hanging in the Trust Buster Mar 2016 #54

Ahh, yes, SCOTUS...Always the fall-back argument during triangulation. Resist triangulation! nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #134

+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #167

I've read this in several places, and for a while now. RiverLover Mar 2016 #55

Agreed. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #56

You sound like Hillary. KPN Mar 2016 #66

But they'll cooperate with Hillary because the like her Republican ideas??? LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #90

Unlike Sanders, the Democrats will cooperate with Hillary's agenda. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #98

LOL. Awesome, Democrats wouldn't cooperate with the Democratic President LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #117

Hillary worked with Republicans just fine when she was Senator. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #124

You can't seem to answer this simple question: What will Hillary get Republicans to vote with her LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #127

Hillary is going to reshape the Supreme Court and fill the backlog of Federal Judge positions Trust Buster Mar 2016 #130

So you are saying that Hillary will get judges appointed that Obama can't? LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #132

^that!^ elljay Mar 2016 #189

They like to trot out their little "Bernie won't be able to get anything done" line LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #190

Thanks for challenging them! elljay Mar 2016 #191

Structurally representative truebluegreen Mar 2016 #67

Republicans control the Senate and the House. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #109

Um, they haven't been representing the INTERESTS of their constituents truebluegreen Mar 2016 #115

On that count, it doesn't matter what you think. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #123

You're right: it does not matter a whit what I think, truebluegreen Mar 2016 #137

Which of Hillary's proposals are the Republicans to agree to? LondonReign2 Mar 2016 #89

That explains his administration's efforts on behalf of the TPP brentspeak Mar 2016 #107

Absolutely! That's the only word to describe your OP pdsimdars Mar 2016 #21

Bearing in mind that the "dominant faction" took control of the Party... brooklynite Mar 2016 #25

They triangulated their way into position. That said, they were placeholders. silvershadow Mar 2016 #26

And the Root Cause & Expose' fredamae Mar 2016 #30

Absolutely! And Bernie is still a great representative of our POV and our dissent. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #32

Spot on! anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #34

Further evidence that DU has devolved into a Sanders cheerleading site. Paladin Mar 2016 #36

two entirely different forums. Must have hit a nerve. silvershadow Mar 2016 #37

I was blocked from Sanders for suggesting that DU was a Sanders site katmondoo Mar 2016 #38

Thanks for voting for Bernie! Divernan Mar 2016 #42

I think the two groups have naturally separated. The majority of DU are Bernie supporters. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #136

I love you Paladin ...but Trajan Mar 2016 #57

It points to some painful truths about the party. We should be able to discuss these issues. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #82

God forbid... mathewsleep Mar 2016 #126

Some people are using the ignore feature, and may not be able to see this OP. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #171

really sucks when we have to put a disclaimer about it PatrynXX Mar 2016 #43

think independently IndyV0te Mar 2016 #58

K&R CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #61

remember though, when assessing the dem party and its certainot Mar 2016 #62

The face of the party, does not help FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #64

Promoting the common good, the benevolence of the federal government and usefulness of taxes andym Mar 2016 #74

K&R vintx Mar 2016 #77

I agree with your very thoughtful post. Duval Mar 2016 #86

Sad, but true. nt Zorra Mar 2016 #88

well, look at what the party's publicly come to stand for as opposed to say 1988 MisterP Mar 2016 #114

This is why the idea of Bernie Sanders will last long after the man himself Arkana Mar 2016 #125

+1. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #135

Absolutely! KPN Mar 2016 #154

That's on a nutshell...And Bernie is proving them WRONG noiretextatique Mar 2016 #133

We need to get rid of the DNC and start the Democratic Socialist Committee - DSC Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #140

The Democratic Party has not helped the poor, working poor and middle class since Jimmy Carter. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #141

We didn't leave the Democratic Party, it left us. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #142

Seems kinda back to normal for a second shadowmayor Mar 2016 #143

great article! Big K and R! bbgrunt Mar 2016 #144

I think I agree with you but I need to ask one question. jwirr Mar 2016 #146

Oh I did not author this piece. I just shared it. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #153

Well does anyone else know what the author is referring to jwirr Mar 2016 #159

My Understanding of what the OP Meant are PCPrincess Mar 2016 #176

Thank you. Then I do agree with the author. Every time I jwirr Mar 2016 #187

Off the mark, in my opinion Wibly Mar 2016 #162

KnR SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #165

After all of the triangulation of the DNC for the past 20 years, this article is a no-brainer. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #169

Kick and R BeanMusical Mar 2016 #173

Kicking nt LiberalElite Mar 2016 #175