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JoePhilly

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45. He lost back in 2011, if not before. Here's why.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

Shortly after Obama took office, a segment of the left became very angry. No matter what he did, it was not good enough. It should have been done faster, been bigger, or smaller, on and on and on.

By 2011, the perpetually disgruntled started to demand a primary opponent for Obama. It was never going to happen. But they demanded it. They didn't even have a viable candidate. But they were sure it was going to happen. Bernie even staggered into that nonsense. Of course that effort went nowhere.

The reality is that the angry left spent most of Obama's first 7 years complaining, and really doing nothing during that time to create an array of "acceptably progressive" alternatives to Clinton. As we got closer to 2015, they looked around and finally said, "Hey, we need a progressive alternative to Hillary", and so they started an effort to draft Warren. Which failed.

So Bernie took up their cause. And over the last year, he somehow became, for the angry left, the only person on the face of the earth who could save America.

Here on DU, anti-Hillary tirades have out numbered pro Bernie OPs by at least 5X. Why would anyone expect the media to spend time talking about Bernie when many of his loudest supporters spend almost no time talking about him, and the vast majority talking about (trashing) Clinton.

All of that time spent complaining about Obama, and now Hillary, has been a waste of time.

Bernie lost because the perpetually disgruntled have not gone out and created a set of viable alternatives. One guy (even Bernie) does not a movement make.

The "movement" was never about Bernie. The "movement" was primarily an "anti-Obama", and then "anti-Hillary" rant, with Bernie trying desperately to have his own (usually positive) message drowned out.

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Propoganda. Sorry. Try again. Kittycat Mar 2016 #1
Another cog in the Clinton Lie Machine. dchill Mar 2016 #18
Lol. I totally got it :) Kittycat Mar 2016 #25
+1 Jarqui Mar 2016 #80
David 'Pizza-Rat' Brock Alert.....BlueNationReview Propaganda Inc. Segami Mar 2016 #82
You probably mean propaganda, and no, it's not. From Howard Dean to Elizabeth Warren stevenleser Mar 2016 #84
Sorry. Still not buying what you're selling. Kittycat Mar 2016 #86
I'm not selling anything. All you have to do is open your eyes. Tons of people complaining stevenleser Mar 2016 #88
Article on a Brock-owned Web site by a Clinton-owned pundit RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #2
Ignore it at your peril. riversedge Mar 2016 #4
Spoken with the arrogance of undue entitlement and illegitimate ownership RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #32
No, I spoke with sincerity. riversedge Mar 2016 #48
Oh, wait.. frylock Mar 2016 #60
Wow, this is absolute garbage ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #3
Sanders going so very negitive these last few weeks did him in. riversedge Mar 2016 #5
After his pledge not to. William769 Mar 2016 #7
I don't bother wiht propaganda disguised as news nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #6
I agree ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #8
Is it really smearing when you point out facts about Clinton's actions? casperthegm Mar 2016 #9
Where's the "hate" part? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #10
K&R nt. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #11
I think the one thing that hurt him was focusing mainly on 1 issue: inequality. randome Mar 2016 #12
DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #13
To many to list. William769 Mar 2016 #14
Yup. He also didn't have enough money to contest the Southern states, which has doomed his campaign alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #15
K&R mcar Mar 2016 #16
I'm pretty sure bluenationreview is full of crap and its owner is hoping for a HRC gig. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #17
The truth shall set you free! William769 Mar 2016 #19
Right back at you. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #20
Hill yes! William769 Mar 2016 #22
I'm glad you'll have to feel the Bern for a while longer. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #26
We saw who got William769 Mar 2016 #27
I knew the real Bill would reveal himself. Just scratch the surface and ClintonCave emerges. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #28
"The Clinton Cave"? ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #29
You would. opiate69 Mar 2016 #37
Hey you! ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #39
I'm doing great, actually. Thanks. And yourself? opiate69 Mar 2016 #49
Pretty good ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #66
Ick. senz Mar 2016 #41
Schadenfreude? Quite possibly. ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #44
They're closely related, ismnotwasm. senz Mar 2016 #52
So if we are here to improve the character of our soul ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #67
It's simpler than that. senz Mar 2016 #85
Frankly I don't care. William769 Mar 2016 #69
Some day you should tell us what good you expect from a Hillary presidency. senz Mar 2016 #71
Well to start off with, it will be better than a Sanders presidency. William769 Mar 2016 #74
He stuck to issues snowy owl Mar 2016 #21
nah, I'd say it was when he spent way, way, way too much time in Iowa and NH geek tragedy Mar 2016 #23
That was a bad decision, but so was.... MaggieD Mar 2016 #24
There is a list of strategy mistakes that's for sure ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #38
I think it was when they decided that Black voters would support him firebrand80 Mar 2016 #30
Watch out, the Killer Mike endorsement will be kicking in anytime now CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #33
Bernie got very little from Killer Mike's endorsement. Killer Mike, tho, probably made BANK from it CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #56
Why is it ok to insult 20 somethings? malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #75
Because most of these people are a-holes. It's that simple Ned_Devine Mar 2016 #78
They do not vote as much, that is not an insult bravenak Mar 2016 #79
Lots derailed the campaign, that being just one. The adults having the room, seabeyond Mar 2016 #31
That's a very generous reading. ucrdem Mar 2016 #34
I think Bernie has stayed pretty positive re Hillary, only pointing out their differences. Vinca Mar 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #36
How about this? TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2016 #40
The Clinton name has "brand recognition" and THAT is a huge factor in her success. guillaumeb Mar 2016 #42
The only problem with the post is the Sanders's campaign hasn't been derailed. Impedimentus Mar 2016 #43
He lost back in 2011, if not before. Here's why. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #45
Wow. Nice overview. randome Mar 2016 #51
Welll ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #53
Nice having you back. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #63
Good to be back ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #72
Insightful redstateblues Mar 2016 #81
Devine and Weaver were always looking out for themselves. oasis Mar 2016 #46
Weaver is a smart ass. He though using right wing talking points Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #55
Tad Devine's resume: 5 failed campaigns to get someone elected president. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #58
Yup, Bernie found Devine in the bargain basement campaign manager's bin. oasis Mar 2016 #62
It's not over yet.... but please keep thinking it is! reformist2 Mar 2016 #47
REC riversedge Mar 2016 #50
K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #54
Before the campaign began, Sanders was sensible and decent, and had some good ideas...... George II Mar 2016 #57
What drivel. mindem Mar 2016 #59
Hillary's propaganda organ weighs in frylock Mar 2016 #61
total opposite of the truth; actually, Bernie has been too gentle on her; he could have gone in for amborin Mar 2016 #64
I agree. At some point, Bernie's message seemed to BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #65
For those who dismissed the article because of it's source... brooklynite Mar 2016 #68
I still think his reaction to the BLM protests kind of did him in Number23 Mar 2016 #70
Oh the "ghetto" comment Tarc Mar 2016 #73
YEP bravenak Mar 2016 #77
I think it was that... bravenak Mar 2016 #76
This has been a problem from day one among Sanders' supporters and surrogates. stevenleser Mar 2016 #83
Where did Bernie or his surrogates attack Hillary? Octafish Mar 2016 #87
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