2016 Postmortem

Skwmom

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20. They plan on using bipartisanship to cede U.S. sovereignty to multinational corporations thus

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Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:20 PM

Mar 2016

doing a BIG end run around pesky U.S. laws.

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This is my BIG FEAR if Clinton is the nominee [View all] Armstead Mar 2016 OP

Do you remember how quickly we were cast aside after Obama won? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #1

Yup. That's when we knew we had Nelson Rockefeller in the Oval Office, and not campaign-trail Obama. villager Mar 2016 #3

Yes, there really is little incentive to vote for the establishment artislife Mar 2016 #28

This is the year 840high Mar 2016 #102

yes, how quickly he forgot HOPE and CHANGE and YES, WE CAN!! jello Mar 2016 #76

And then they blamed the voters for low turnout in 2010. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #84

Yes, and Obama is more Progressive than HRC CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #101

Your fear is well founded. Hillary will not lead on this issue. I suspect she cannot wait to be able peacebird Mar 2016 #2

I think she is furious that Bernie won't let her go campaign against Trump. In the meantime, Trump thereismore Mar 2016 #35

Why are the two parties fielding the two worst candidates? panader0 Mar 2016 #59

Let's be real: it's not the parties. It's the people thereismore Mar 2016 #62

She is itching to settle back to her real self... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #61

Thank you--your fears echo my own. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #4

Between all the jobs lost to trade agreements and the financial collapse of 2008, the American liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #5

good post! marions ghost Mar 2016 #82

True. Lorien Mar 2016 #96

Well your core problem is that..... MaggieD Mar 2016 #6

They have had remarkably little stomach to tackle the real reasons for it Armstead Mar 2016 #11

No, I am just more informed about the issues, apparently MaggieD Mar 2016 #14

I bow to your higher wisdom Armstead Mar 2016 #19

OMG! You continue to crack me up. MelissaB Mar 2016 #27

You're welcome to try to prove me wrong -- go for it MaggieD Mar 2016 #30

Why would I waste time with someone who ignores answers when given & continues to ask & ask & ask? MelissaB Mar 2016 #38

Your problem is you don't realize how much you don't know. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #105

I wish I could believe that. floriduck Mar 2016 #23

Exactly. artislife Mar 2016 #34

Not really. artislife Mar 2016 #31

If they were they'd be working to address it Scootaloo Mar 2016 #51

The centrist elected Dems aren't. Only those in the progressive wing of the party. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #78

When has a mainstream Dem EVER mentioned income inequality? johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #90

I think you will be surprised. Remember FDR wasn't particularly liberal when first elected. Hoyt Mar 2016 #7

I hope so Armstead Mar 2016 #13

I'll eat it with you, just to celebrate a better country. Hoyt Mar 2016 #17

I don't remember FDR having close-enough ties to Wall St. that... Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #40

We're you alive when FDR was president? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #104

A ground breaking is a media event. And FDR broke the banks apart. Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #108

You didn't answer my question Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #109

And may I add as you well know Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #110

I've been thinking along this same line ... salinsky Mar 2016 #47

I think primary her rear if she doesn't deliver. Hoyt Mar 2016 #74

No matter who is the Democratic nominee, nothing can be taken for granted or assumed. National poll still_one Mar 2016 #8

Let me say this. We Hillary supporters want the same things you do. upaloopa Mar 2016 #9

+1 MaggieD Mar 2016 #15

My interpretation differs Armstead Mar 2016 #18

I know it does. I hope we all have a bright future upaloopa Mar 2016 #21

. Doctor_J Mar 2016 #25

At what point do we start caring more about beating repubs than each other? upaloopa Mar 2016 #43

"The Hillary that is spoken about in GDP does not exist. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #63

Prospects for the Supreme Court will be given more consideration by oasis Mar 2016 #10

I'm talking about much bigger that the SC Armstead Mar 2016 #16

They can stall as long as they want. artislife Mar 2016 #32

The GOP stated the American people should decide who gets on SCOTUS oasis Mar 2016 #45

Because they can stall artislife Mar 2016 #46

You sure have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump leftofcool Mar 2016 #48

No, I just read the comments in a Yahoo news section artislife Mar 2016 #50

On the brightside... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #12

They plan on using bipartisanship to cede U.S. sovereignty to multinational corporations thus Skwmom Mar 2016 #20

sadly, it wont even require bipartisanship restorefreedom Mar 2016 #52

But they are pushing the bipartisanship myth again. They engage in plenty of bipartisanship to Skwmom Mar 2016 #67

yes, it is a myth. and a big show. we peons keep voting d vs r like it really matters restorefreedom Mar 2016 #71

He should leverage his message at the convention WhiteTara Mar 2016 #22

this is not a fear ibegurpard Mar 2016 #24

Anyone who thinks HRC will be even slightly less of a corporate sockpuppet after securing the nom... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #26

+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #36

Hear hear! nt artislife Mar 2016 #37

No shortage of stone fools so it would seem. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #65

That's exactly what will happen, but you forgot the militarism. lostnfound Mar 2016 #29

agree - "back to the shadows" Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #33

This election is the perfect smokescreen to realign the two parties DJ13 Mar 2016 #83

agree. Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #100

If we lose ..we will be discounted and betrayed as usual... tokenlib Mar 2016 #39

You know what, work out the issues as they come. But, create an "end of the world" is not gonna seabeyond Mar 2016 #41

Over the last four decades the cumulative damage caused by ignoring these issues... Armstead Mar 2016 #53

I think Hillary is going to surprise a lot of people if she wins. She will BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #42

Seriously? How will she pay for anything other than war? She is very hawkish. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #44

Don't see that for a second.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #49

I want some of whatever you're smoking tularetom Mar 2016 #64

After campaigning to the right of Obama? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #79

That's either wishful thinking or lunacy. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #106

The bell Sanders has been ringing all over the country cannot be unrung, esp. with Millennials. merrily Mar 2016 #54

+100 eom Karma13612 Mar 2016 #55

I hope you're right Armstead Mar 2016 #56

People are hearing "It doesn't have to be this way." They are SEEING a campaign with no dark money. merrily Mar 2016 #60

I hope with all my heart that the fuse of the revolution has been lit and Karma13612 Mar 2016 #57

What ifs? There are no guarantees in life. I love Bernie but those are promises, not guarantees. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #58

I'm not afraid it will happen Bettie Mar 2016 #66

Yep the old Merry Go Round Armstead Mar 2016 #69

�History has tried hard to teach us that we can�t have good government under politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #68

We have a good politician with Bernie.....I'd be comfortable with him stuck to the top Armstead Mar 2016 #70

As politicians go, Bernie certainly doesn't fit the usual stereotype. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #77

Hillary is already promising far less than Obama did. .. yurbud Mar 2016 #72

you'd be a lot better off if you hadn't heard people chanting GOP propaganda against HRC Bill USA Mar 2016 #73

I'm wayyyyyyyy beyond being influenced by GOP propaganda Armstead Mar 2016 #81

You have to understand nichomachus Mar 2016 #87

Oh I know...Up is down...left is right....We've always been at war with Eurasia Armstead Mar 2016 #88

Hillary is a monster, and evidence of that comes from Centrist and Left leaning sources: Lorien Mar 2016 #97

A Constitutional Amendment would be good, but Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #99

bizness as usual, yep jello Mar 2016 #75

Lots of reasons I say she is the wrong vote OkSustainAg Mar 2016 #80

The Clinton's sold the Democratic party. Gregorian Mar 2016 #85

Trump is more dangerous and would be a disaster Armstead Mar 2016 #86

Yep, I'm noticing that Hillary's camp is not taking Trump seriously... johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #89

That's because they know that he's on her team Lorien Mar 2016 #98

I think the fears of trade deals are overblown. randome Mar 2016 #91

Trade deals are just part of the Big Picture Armstead Mar 2016 #93

Kick imagine2015 Mar 2016 #92

My biggest fear is that she will continue to be a big supporter of the the brown-lives-don't-matter cpwm17 Mar 2016 #94

My biggest fear: Lorien Mar 2016 #95

I wish I had *only* one. Aerows Mar 2016 #103

The same problem that caused the near-collapse of American society in 1929-1935. tabasco Mar 2016 #107