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2016 Postmortem

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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 05:22 PM Mar 2016

Hillary's Winning the 13-State-Bible-Belt. Sanders is Still Winning the 37-State-Not-The-Bible-Belt! [View all]

This nomination race is basically where you would expect it to be if you were looking for Sanders to win a come-from-behind upset over Hillary, the DNC chosen establishment Goliath who is running to keep the status quo in place.

There are several key points to keep in mind.

1. First, if you were thinking that Sanders was the favorite, and not the underdog, and this would be an easy waltz to the nomination, that was never a realistic expectation. If you thought that a Jewish progressive candidate from New York via Vermont was going to win in the Bible Belt over the centrist former first lady of Arkansas, that was also never going to happen. But keep in mind, Dixie is 13 states and the rest of America is 37 states; I'd rather be winning in the 37 state region than in the 13 state region.

2. Second, leave aside the Bible Belt for a moment, and look at how well "underdog" Sanders is doing in the rest of the nation:

State.....Hillary Delegates.....Sanders Delegates

IA.....................23....................21
NH....................9.....................15
NV....................19....................15
CO....................28....................38
MA....................46....................45
MN....................29....................46
OK....................17....................21
VT.....................0.....................16
NE....................10....................14
KS....................10....................23
ME....................7.....................15
MI.....................60....................67
IL......................68....................67
MO....................32....................32
OH....................76....................57

Total................434...................492 out of 926

Considering the 15 contests outside of the Bible Belt, Missouri was a tie and Sanders won the most pledged delegates in 9 out of 15 states! Sanders won most of these states convincingly, and lifted the voters to achieve record turnout in most of these wins.

Hillary only won a majority of pledged delegates in only 5 out of these 15 states, and her wins in Iowa and Massachusetts and Illinois were by incredibly narrow margins (by only one delegate in Massachusetts and Illinois, and by 2 in Iowa).

Sanders has won over 53% of these delegates!

If the West Coast states were front-loaded in the nomination calendar instead of the Bible Belt, the establishment politicians at the DNC would already be updating their resumes and the M$M would be pulling its hair out.

3.
Third, the goal is to amass a majority of pledged delegates going onto the convention. Do not fall for the nonsense about super-delegates who do not vote until the convention and who historically flip to back whichever candidate is leading in the voter-assigned pledged delegate count and do not but into Hillary's campaign's misleading posts about the "popular vote" which is not a real count of the popular vote (just ask what was the popular vote in Iowa, for example, and why Hillary and her allies in Iowa are opposing any release of those figures).

There are 4050 pledged delegates to be allocated, and 2108 remain to be assigned by the voters in the upcoming contests. That means we are less than halfway through the process. For Sanders to achieve 2026 pledged delegates (a majority) he needs 1215 (about 57%). To put that in context, Sanders meets this target if he does about as well as he did in Nebraska, and he meets this target even if he does less well than he did in Kansas, Colorado, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont. Sanders does not even have to do as well in the remaining part of the race as Hillary did in the first part, and he can still win.

With these goals in mind, we need to focus like lasers on the next 9 contests:

Democrats Abroad (we are well ahead)
Idaho (we are ahead in the most recent poll)
Utah (we have been ahead in earlier polling and Sanders is way ahead in the betting markets)
Arizona (this is a close race to watch; if we get the turnout up, we probably win)
Alaska (we are ahead in the most recent polling)
Hawaii (I'm not aware of any polling, but Rep. Tulsi Gabbard has our back and I like our chances)
Washington (I'm not aware of recent polling, but word on the ground is that we are ahead)
Wisconsin (we are ahead in the most recent polling)
Wyoming (I'm not aware of recent polling, but word on the ground is that we are ahead)

Sanders is already winning the Not-The-Bible-Belt primary 9 wins to 5, and after then next 9 contests, Sanders could easily be ahead 18 to 5!

We have passed through the part of the calendar rigged to favor the type of centrist candidates who will perform best in the Bible Belt, and the best half (more than half, really) remains to be contested. Sanders has taken Hillary's best punch, and he's still standing!

Keep donating! Keep phone banking! Keep the hope burning!
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You are on fire with the predictions. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #1
Thanks for noticing that. I am pleased to have done better than Nate Silver this cycle. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #10
Linked this on FB for the discouraged ones. Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #109
Lol of the night ! you forecast Michigan , hahahaha pkdu Mar 2016 #126
..... obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #28
Excellent post! Fight on Fellow Berners! We have his back, and he has ours! peacebird Mar 2016 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #3
That Hillary stands no chance of losing in November Godhumor Mar 2016 #27
she is struggling in swing states. thats the real issue. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #42
... Like Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia and Nevada? N/t Godhumor Mar 2016 #44
like missouri, ohio, illinois and probably west virginia. nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #46
All three she technically won Godhumor Mar 2016 #48
when you have to put the word "technically" in front, restorefreedom Mar 2016 #49
But to say she is struggling in swing states when she is winning them vs Bernie Godhumor Mar 2016 #50
if she wins on her side by a couple of points restorefreedom Mar 2016 #52
But Bernie is not performing as well as her Godhumor Mar 2016 #54
some of these states have closed primaries restorefreedom Mar 2016 #65
Just out of curiosity, Karma13612 Mar 2016 #79
:) yw. i wish i could be a fly on the wall at the convention. restorefreedom Mar 2016 #88
Huh?? .. WV is not a swing state. DCBob Mar 2016 #67
from the website 270towin restorefreedom Mar 2016 #69
Where have you been the past 16 years? WV has voted Red since 2000. DCBob Mar 2016 #71
wv has a split history restorefreedom Mar 2016 #85
20 years ago it was blue.. that's ancient history in politics. DCBob Mar 2016 #89
perhaps so. but as coal goes to make way for green energy, restorefreedom Mar 2016 #91
You sure you want to lean on anywhere but the South ? Nevada was a squeak . orpupilofnature57 Mar 2016 #101
She is outperforming Sanders in the swing state primaries Godhumor Mar 2016 #108
Hell yeah, we're going to keep on fighting! liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #4
The Bible Belt is the Real America Fumesucker Mar 2016 #5
So ignore Texas...Florida.... beachbumbob Mar 2016 #6
Who's ignoring Texas and Florida? Go ahead, take your victory lap! Hillary swept the Bible Belt. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #13
Right ignore CA and NY too Vincardog Mar 2016 #18
When did Bernie win NY and California? comradebillyboy Mar 2016 #94
LOL. If you don't count the states Hillary won, then Bernie's way ahead! DanTex Mar 2016 #7
hahahahaha Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #19
And VA (not the Bible Belt), PA, NJ.... obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #30
OH is not the Bible Belt. Especially not Cleveland. yardwork Mar 2016 #122
Finally someone said it! I thought I was in an alternate universe. LisaM Mar 2016 #84
We're not supposed to mention Massachusetts because mega phone. yardwork Mar 2016 #120
Oh, right... LisaM Mar 2016 #121
What are you going to do about the Big Dog. yardwork Mar 2016 #123
I hope we treat Democrats everywhere similarly. It is not their fault if they live in the 'wrong' pampango Mar 2016 #8
The 50 state strategy went under the bus a while ago. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #12
+1 NCTraveler Mar 2016 #16
Sanders did not skip any contests. He fought hard, but Hillary won the Bible Belt. Congratulations! Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #15
She won the Rust Belt too! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #78
In Illinois and Michigan combined, he won 134 pledged delegates and she won 128. Hillary won the Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #92
Why exclude Ohio unless it ruins your numbers? Gothmog Mar 2016 #105
Ohio is part of the Rust Belt. Akron is in Ohio. Just saying. yardwork Mar 2016 #124
This is that "new math" I keep hearing about. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #9
It's called Berniemath lunamagica Mar 2016 #20
My favorite was an argument that Ohio was close sweetloukillbot Mar 2016 #37
LMAO! MaggieD Mar 2016 #11
Just a slight tweak/evolution in verbiage. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #17
If he wins all of those.. speaktruthtopower Mar 2016 #14
Her momentum and trajectory favor a downward slope from here on. Vincardog Mar 2016 #26
Funny, the same thing was said here just last week. grossproffit Mar 2016 #31
Check next month. Vincardog Mar 2016 #62
Crazy idea, what say we ALL support her then that wont happen! Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #77
I know that Bernie has to project confidence. Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #21
... SidDithers Mar 2016 #22
reminds me of late stage Marco Rubio nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #25
It's gone beyond sad to downright pitiable...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #29
He's not losing, he's just differently winning. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #61
Please don't use violent language and imagery! I beg you! Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #100
"Stick a fork in him" is not violent language or imagery. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #103
To a deranged mind? Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #125
That's a lot harder to type than "Confederate", isn't it? nt Codeine Mar 2016 #23
he's winning all the states except the ones he's losing nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #24
K&R Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #32
Why do Sanders supporters dis the "Bible Belt" state wins Tarc Mar 2016 #33
This is not like the general election where you win states for electoral college votes. upaloopa Mar 2016 #34
Then you, as a Texan BainsBane Mar 2016 #35
They aren't "second class" votes. They are votes from a region that favored Hillary and is now done Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #36
Thank you marions ghost Mar 2016 #63
That is a factually false statement BainsBane Mar 2016 #96
You realize that several states have not reported any vote total, right? If you are so sure Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #99
In the "Bible Belt" ... iandhr Mar 2016 #38
"almost all African American"? That is simply not true and easily disproved. The Bible Belt is the Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #40
Any state that Clinton wins or ties in the rest of the way raises the bar for Sanders onenote Mar 2016 #39
No one disputes that Sanders is the underdog. No one is saying it is an easy task. But when Sanders Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #41
excellent work! great post! nt restorefreedom Mar 2016 #43
Bet you came with this while sitting in a chair that swivels really well. nt Persondem Mar 2016 #45
Well of course if we cut away the large number of states Bernie lost badly in, he'd be ahead. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #47
I'm not privy to Sanders' campaign plans, but no one is "cutting away" states. If the Bible Belt did Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #53
He needs 58% today. He needed 54% yesterday. Every contest he loses compounds the necessary # CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #57
That's incorrect for a couple of reasons. First, not all states report a "popular vote" and delegate Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #70
silly post marions ghost Mar 2016 #66
Hillary just won a southern state, a mid-Atlantic state, 2 rust belt states and a Midwest state Trust Buster Mar 2016 #51
Missouri was a tie. Hillary won her HOME STATE by one delegate. She won Ohio (congratulations). And Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #56
PROTIP: A loss by any margin is still a loss. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #72
You say "Sanders lost Missouri," but last I saw the delegates were split evenly. How did you think Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #80
His campaign tactic of "surviving" NuclearDem Mar 2016 #87
So you have an O'Malley icon and you are questioning Sanders' strategy. I like O'Malley but I would Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #93
Yes, I have an O'Malley avatar, and yes, I'm questioning Sanders' strategy. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #102
Florida is not Bible Belt RockaFowler Mar 2016 #75
I understand that you feel that way, but others have a different view: Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #95
One question Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #55
This treats all past contests as water under the bridge and projects how Sanders has to perform in Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #59
K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #58
Somebody tell Iowa, Nevada, Massachusetts, Illinois, and Ohio NuclearDem Mar 2016 #60
Praise Jesus! Squinch Mar 2016 #64
I'll assume that you didn't read the OP before responding (which is OK, I'm just glad for the kick) Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #73
Spinning like a top. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #74
Oh, for Pete's sake, this is not spin! It's numbers. Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #111
Given the OP's track record, I can comfortably say that it is, in fact, spin. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #114
Donated Last Night noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #68
OK, game on! Karma13612 Mar 2016 #76
Great post. Donated last night and plan to continue donating. Go Bernie! GoneFishin Mar 2016 #81
Go Bernie Go!! grasswire Mar 2016 #82
may I share this? nt grasswire Mar 2016 #83
Of course. Please do. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #112
We have a winner. And we have a loser. ;) seabeyond Mar 2016 #86
Typically, we don't decide who's the winner and who's the loser before halftime. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #98
I was a swimmer. We had heats. Had winners and losers. The winners advance. Losers go away. seabeyond Mar 2016 #107
You could have stopped at "Hillary's winning" Renew Deal Mar 2016 #90
kick and I wish I could recommend this 100 times! Vote2016 Mar 2016 #97
Sanders is down to a 4% chance of being the nominee according to predictwise Gothmog Mar 2016 #104
He is losing bravenak Mar 2016 #106
OK NE and KS are all in the Bible belt dsc Mar 2016 #110
K&R for uplifting truth! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #113
It's far from over. imagine2015 Mar 2016 #115
Definitely. Not only is it far from other, neither of our candidates should want it to be over. Do Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #116
Hillary learned from Obama Mary Mac Mar 2016 #117
Kicking ... the clock is ticking MichaelSoE Mar 2016 #118
Denying reality and promoting false memes is neither healthy nor productive. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #119
Very well done! Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #127
No, it's very poorly done. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #129
Well now, you see, this is how it works... Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #130
But we're not just dealing with opinions here. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #131
You made your point in your thread. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #132
What is it that you agree with? Garrett78 Mar 2016 #133
You don't take a hint well, do you? Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #134
So, you can't actually say what it is with which you agree. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #135
Who cares? book_worm Mar 2016 #128
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