2016 Postmortem

salinsky

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47. I've been thinking along this same line ...

Wed Mar 16, 2016, 06:27 PM

Mar 2016

... she may be more liberal than I would expect, and she will certainly be more liberal than the Bernie Bros suggest.

But, if she turns out not to be, primary her ass in four years.

What should not be a point of contention, is that she is most certainly a better choice than that Trump goon, or God forbid, Ted Cruz.

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This is my BIG FEAR if Clinton is the nominee [View all] Armstead Mar 2016 OP

Do you remember how quickly we were cast aside after Obama won? Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #1

Yup. That's when we knew we had Nelson Rockefeller in the Oval Office, and not campaign-trail Obama. villager Mar 2016 #3

Yes, there really is little incentive to vote for the establishment artislife Mar 2016 #28

This is the year 840high Mar 2016 #102

yes, how quickly he forgot HOPE and CHANGE and YES, WE CAN!! jello Mar 2016 #76

And then they blamed the voters for low turnout in 2010. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #84

Yes, and Obama is more Progressive than HRC CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #101

Your fear is well founded. Hillary will not lead on this issue. I suspect she cannot wait to be able peacebird Mar 2016 #2

I think she is furious that Bernie won't let her go campaign against Trump. In the meantime, Trump thereismore Mar 2016 #35

Why are the two parties fielding the two worst candidates? panader0 Mar 2016 #59

Let's be real: it's not the parties. It's the people thereismore Mar 2016 #62

She is itching to settle back to her real self... tex-wyo-dem Mar 2016 #61

Thank you--your fears echo my own. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #4

Between all the jobs lost to trade agreements and the financial collapse of 2008, the American liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #5

good post! marions ghost Mar 2016 #82

True. Lorien Mar 2016 #96

Well your core problem is that..... MaggieD Mar 2016 #6

They have had remarkably little stomach to tackle the real reasons for it Armstead Mar 2016 #11

No, I am just more informed about the issues, apparently MaggieD Mar 2016 #14

I bow to your higher wisdom Armstead Mar 2016 #19

OMG! You continue to crack me up. MelissaB Mar 2016 #27

You're welcome to try to prove me wrong -- go for it MaggieD Mar 2016 #30

Why would I waste time with someone who ignores answers when given & continues to ask & ask & ask? MelissaB Mar 2016 #38

Your problem is you don't realize how much you don't know. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #105

I wish I could believe that. floriduck Mar 2016 #23

Exactly. artislife Mar 2016 #34

Not really. artislife Mar 2016 #31

If they were they'd be working to address it Scootaloo Mar 2016 #51

The centrist elected Dems aren't. Only those in the progressive wing of the party. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #78

When has a mainstream Dem EVER mentioned income inequality? johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #90

I think you will be surprised. Remember FDR wasn't particularly liberal when first elected. Hoyt Mar 2016 #7

I hope so Armstead Mar 2016 #13

I'll eat it with you, just to celebrate a better country. Hoyt Mar 2016 #17

I don't remember FDR having close-enough ties to Wall St. that... Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #40

We're you alive when FDR was president? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #104

A ground breaking is a media event. And FDR broke the banks apart. Blue State Bandit Mar 2016 #108

You didn't answer my question Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #109

And may I add as you well know Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #110

I've been thinking along this same line ... salinsky Mar 2016 #47

I think primary her rear if she doesn't deliver. Hoyt Mar 2016 #74

No matter who is the Democratic nominee, nothing can be taken for granted or assumed. National poll still_one Mar 2016 #8

Let me say this. We Hillary supporters want the same things you do. upaloopa Mar 2016 #9

+1 MaggieD Mar 2016 #15

My interpretation differs Armstead Mar 2016 #18

I know it does. I hope we all have a bright future upaloopa Mar 2016 #21

. Doctor_J Mar 2016 #25

At what point do we start caring more about beating repubs than each other? upaloopa Mar 2016 #43

"The Hillary that is spoken about in GDP does not exist. passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #63

Prospects for the Supreme Court will be given more consideration by oasis Mar 2016 #10

I'm talking about much bigger that the SC Armstead Mar 2016 #16

They can stall as long as they want. artislife Mar 2016 #32

The GOP stated the American people should decide who gets on SCOTUS oasis Mar 2016 #45

Because they can stall artislife Mar 2016 #46

You sure have a lot of confidence in Donald Trump leftofcool Mar 2016 #48

No, I just read the comments in a Yahoo news section artislife Mar 2016 #50

On the brightside... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #12

They plan on using bipartisanship to cede U.S. sovereignty to multinational corporations thus Skwmom Mar 2016 #20

sadly, it wont even require bipartisanship restorefreedom Mar 2016 #52

But they are pushing the bipartisanship myth again. They engage in plenty of bipartisanship to Skwmom Mar 2016 #67

yes, it is a myth. and a big show. we peons keep voting d vs r like it really matters restorefreedom Mar 2016 #71

He should leverage his message at the convention WhiteTara Mar 2016 #22

this is not a fear ibegurpard Mar 2016 #24

Anyone who thinks HRC will be even slightly less of a corporate sockpuppet after securing the nom... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #26

+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #36

Hear hear! nt artislife Mar 2016 #37

No shortage of stone fools so it would seem. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #65

That's exactly what will happen, but you forgot the militarism. lostnfound Mar 2016 #29

agree - "back to the shadows" Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #33

This election is the perfect smokescreen to realign the two parties DJ13 Mar 2016 #83

agree. Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #100

If we lose ..we will be discounted and betrayed as usual... tokenlib Mar 2016 #39

You know what, work out the issues as they come. But, create an "end of the world" is not gonna seabeyond Mar 2016 #41

Over the last four decades the cumulative damage caused by ignoring these issues... Armstead Mar 2016 #53

I think Hillary is going to surprise a lot of people if she wins. She will BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #42

Seriously? How will she pay for anything other than war? She is very hawkish. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #44

Don't see that for a second.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #49

I want some of whatever you're smoking tularetom Mar 2016 #64

After campaigning to the right of Obama? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #79

That's either wishful thinking or lunacy. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #106

The bell Sanders has been ringing all over the country cannot be unrung, esp. with Millennials. merrily Mar 2016 #54

+100 eom Karma13612 Mar 2016 #55

I hope you're right Armstead Mar 2016 #56

People are hearing "It doesn't have to be this way." They are SEEING a campaign with no dark money. merrily Mar 2016 #60

I hope with all my heart that the fuse of the revolution has been lit and Karma13612 Mar 2016 #57

What ifs? There are no guarantees in life. I love Bernie but those are promises, not guarantees. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #58

I'm not afraid it will happen Bettie Mar 2016 #66

Yep the old Merry Go Round Armstead Mar 2016 #69

�History has tried hard to teach us that we can�t have good government under politicians. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #68

We have a good politician with Bernie.....I'd be comfortable with him stuck to the top Armstead Mar 2016 #70

As politicians go, Bernie certainly doesn't fit the usual stereotype. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #77

Hillary is already promising far less than Obama did. .. yurbud Mar 2016 #72

you'd be a lot better off if you hadn't heard people chanting GOP propaganda against HRC Bill USA Mar 2016 #73

I'm wayyyyyyyy beyond being influenced by GOP propaganda Armstead Mar 2016 #81

You have to understand nichomachus Mar 2016 #87

Oh I know...Up is down...left is right....We've always been at war with Eurasia Armstead Mar 2016 #88

Hillary is a monster, and evidence of that comes from Centrist and Left leaning sources: Lorien Mar 2016 #97

A Constitutional Amendment would be good, but Buns_of_Fire Mar 2016 #99

bizness as usual, yep jello Mar 2016 #75

Lots of reasons I say she is the wrong vote OkSustainAg Mar 2016 #80

The Clinton's sold the Democratic party. Gregorian Mar 2016 #85

Trump is more dangerous and would be a disaster Armstead Mar 2016 #86

Yep, I'm noticing that Hillary's camp is not taking Trump seriously... johnnyrocket Mar 2016 #89

That's because they know that he's on her team Lorien Mar 2016 #98

I think the fears of trade deals are overblown. randome Mar 2016 #91

Trade deals are just part of the Big Picture Armstead Mar 2016 #93

Kick imagine2015 Mar 2016 #92

My biggest fear is that she will continue to be a big supporter of the the brown-lives-don't-matter cpwm17 Mar 2016 #94

My biggest fear: Lorien Mar 2016 #95

I wish I had *only* one. Aerows Mar 2016 #103

The same problem that caused the near-collapse of American society in 1929-1935. tabasco Mar 2016 #107