A pony represents all his promises (Reply #144)

In the discussion thread: "income equality is the solution to racism. Any minority of ANY type knows that simply not true." [View all]

Response to Kentonio (Reply #123)

Thu Mar 17, 2016, 10:56 AM

MaggieD (7,393 posts)

144. A pony represents all his promises

Think of it as short hand. And this "theory" was clearly developed based on the fact that he's a white guy living in VT his whole adult life.

He's clueless. For example, at the beginning of the campaign he went to SC and in a video taped meeting with AA he acted amazed to find out that blacks were given fines for petty things then thrown in jail when they could not pay the fines. "I had no idea this was happening" he said.

He didn't know that happens because he is clueless. I don't know a single liberal in real life that is unaware that happens to AA, particularly in he south. OR he could have just read the Ferguson DOJ report which discussed that problem in depth. He clearly didn't read it because he doesn't fucking care.

Worse yet, he put a video of that on his Facebook page because he really had no idea how fucking clueless it made him look. He's even clueless about that.

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148 replies	Author	Time	Post
"income equality is the solution to racism. Any minority of ANY type knows that simply not true." [View all]	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	OP
BOTH. Fuck one or the other. I want both.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#1
We all want both, the question is which injustice is government most realistically equipped	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#3
Racism	bravenak	Mar 2016	#4
I disagree, racism was used to justify economic exploitation.	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#27
Actually, Bravenak is right on that point	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#33
I never said it wasn't, even against Native Americans,	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#62
Poverty was invented by people who are skilled at rhetoric and violence. nt	ZombieHorde	Mar 2016	#49
Poverty existed in the caves.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#66
So did tribalism and greed for the "others'" women, hunting grounds or resources promoted warfare.	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#80
Not color based.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#81
CroMagnon's and Neanderthals looked different from one another, it's the same concept.	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#83
Fough over resources and because they were different types of humans.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#84
It's the same mentality of the "other" and they did interbreed	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#89
Yes we did create our own american type of racism.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#90
Whether different or not it all springs from the same source in the human psyche and it was done	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#96
And we need to correct ourselves rather than just saying it cannot be fixed, dont we?	bravenak	Mar 2016	#97
Absolutely! That's why I support Bernie. I certainly don't believe he can eliminate racism but if	Uncle Joe	Mar 2016	#99
Peace to you.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#100
There's nothing uniquely American about that.	Kentonio	Mar 2016	#122
Not the fucking way we discriminated	bravenak	Mar 2016	#124
I think the people of some areas of the Middle East beat them to it by a number of centuries.	Kentonio	Mar 2016	#125
We agree on very little my friend	Uponthegears	Mar 2016	#134
Thank YOU!!	bravenak	Mar 2016	#135
Poverty requires certain social constructs to be in place.	ZombieHorde	Mar 2016	#148
Sadly you all but called me a racist	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#126
When and why?	bravenak	Mar 2016	#127
A few months ago	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#128
If I did not say yes, it meant I was not sure yet	bravenak	Mar 2016	#129
Ok, i still take that as a yes	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#133
Try not to since I never actually decided u were one	bravenak	Mar 2016	#136
Sure, you are a very coy one	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#137
If I thought you were I would say so	bravenak	Mar 2016	#138
Know I know you think everyone is	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#140
I even think I am.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#141
Okay ban racism in hearts and minds with legislation and see how far that gets you.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#5
Stop tolerating racism just because they exist.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#10
What law would you write that forces your neighbor to invite you to their backyard barbeque?	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#29
One that lets me sue his ass into poverty if he screws me.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#30
You mean one 'nem laws that knows people's minds and punishes them accordingly?	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#34
One that allows me access to his data.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#37
Where is the cutoff? One in twenty? One in ten? One in FIVE? Keep shooting in the dark and	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#43
I have no clue what your post means	bravenak	Mar 2016	#44
Yeah that's what I'd say too.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#57
I'd hope so if I wrote that	bravenak	Mar 2016	#60
Excellent cherokeeprogressive	monicaangela	Mar 2016	#131
The civil rights act was signed 52 years ago how's that legislate and sue thing working?	azurnoir	Mar 2016	#67
We need more laws. My mama is fifty two.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#72
and you think that'll work? and exactly what laws ?	azurnoir	Mar 2016	#75
I dont think thats the way	bravenak	Mar 2016	#77
What if I can't afford an attorney and can't find a pro bono one?	forjusticethunders	Mar 2016	#111
I'm glad you saw a flaw.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#112
Yes.	Turin_C3PO	Mar 2016	#6
Thank you	bravenak	Mar 2016	#7
Okay. Let me explain it to you.	DURHAM D	Mar 2016	#11
Love you too.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#14
Really?	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#21
Because of this shit. And I never insisted you were, you know what?	bravenak	Mar 2016	#24
No shit. You're fibbing.	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#28
No. I dont want them telling me HOW to go about it.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#32
You opposed the entire notion that racial and economic justice can exist in tandem.	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#36
Nope. I opposed their solutions. They have no clue bout no racism.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#39
No, you opposed the entire concept.	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#56
Yeah but we old we can't remember chit that happened 5 mos ago.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#38
He's my age.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#40
Oh just forgetful then	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#41
Nope. Did not like the solution provided. They ignored the racial component so fuck that.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#42
Show me the bill you would write to end racism.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#48
So if I dont have a bill ready, then fuck it, racism stays?	bravenak	Mar 2016	#55
Nah just give me some ideas of what you would put in it.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#58
Search my posts	bravenak	Mar 2016	#59
no can do	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#65
I want it to end and will not accept any more nonsense about how we cant	bravenak	Mar 2016	#69
People are going to have to talk to each other then	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#85
And white folks gotta admit their part rather than acting like it ended in 1865.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#87
I don't think people here are doing that. You are swinging at what I don't know.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#88
I see it all the time	bravenak	Mar 2016	#91
Yes you do	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#92
No I'm not.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#93
Not what? Swinging?	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#94
No need to bother swinging.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#95
cool	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#98
nah, just wait for Missy-Anne to get around to it	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#101
Like I'm waiting for Hillary to fix shit for me.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#104
Um, there are a billion racist practices you could change with laws tomorrow	forjusticethunders	Mar 2016	#114
Bernie has already talked about the majority of those things.	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#117
This wasn't about candidates	forjusticethunders	Mar 2016	#130
Neither can be "solved" in any real way	Recursion	Mar 2016	#2
PASS	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#8
Show a little backbone and tell me which "assumption" is false.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#13
The entire premise of your post is a false assumption. eom	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#16
And the cow jumped over the moon.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#20
There is no line to put any fingers on when the entire thing is complete and total garbage	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#22
LOL.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#25
I am saying your rhetorical nonsense post has no basis in reality.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#26
In other words you got nothin'.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#31
And you go the strawman route	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#35
Keep on answering... with fluff. Your replies are like clouds that disappear into thin air...	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#46
And you finish with an ad hominem.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#50
And YOU finish with rolling eyes. Expected.	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#53
For once I agree with you!	Beowulf	Mar 2016	#73
It seems to me that you are bothered by the question,	delrem	Mar 2016	#121
In my opinion, other countries with less wealth inequality also have less racism.	DemocracyDirect	Mar 2016	#9
Can you name one?	JustAnotherGen	Mar 2016	#108
I think the answer is all of them	forjusticethunders	Mar 2016	#132
Actually - My husband is from Italy	JustAnotherGen	Mar 2016	#143
Canada	DemocracyDirect	Mar 2016	#139
I've been in Northern Ontario -	JustAnotherGen	Mar 2016	#142
You make an interesting point.	DemocracyDirect	Mar 2016	#147
I think Hillary said it well: (paraphrasing) You change laws. Hearts and minds may or may not	ecstatic	Mar 2016	#12
Which "institutional racism" hasn't already been addressed by laws?	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#15
Seriously? SMH nt	geek tragedy	Mar 2016	#19
No answer. Join Mo Rok Tah over there...	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#23
VOTING RIGHTS.	geek tragedy	Mar 2016	#47
I got a few minutes... why don't you tell me how voting rights will end the racism that lives in	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#52
do you really not understand the difference between	geek tragedy	Mar 2016	#63
We HAVE laws against institutional/systemic racism. Or haven't you noticed?	cherokeeprogressive	Mar 2016	#64
Not enough of them. nt	geek tragedy	Mar 2016	#70
Not enough of them. nt	geek tragedy	Mar 2016	#71
(deleted because I didn't realize where you were actually going with this).	Ken Burch	Mar 2016	#17
You can attempt to convert a bigot or racist but unless that person wants to change....	nc4bo	Mar 2016	#18
That's not the point	MaggieD	Mar 2016	#45
A pony? Seriously, thats the more mature response you had to this?	Kentonio	Mar 2016	#123
A pony represents all his promises	MaggieD	Mar 2016	#144
Ah so just more of the same garbage.	Kentonio	Mar 2016	#145
What, specifically, is unfair about what I posted?	MaggieD	Mar 2016	#146
this helps explain why Bernie's supporters failed so miserably	geek tragedy	Mar 2016	#51
Wow. 53 replies and I can only see 3 of them. My ignore button is working great.	liberal_at_heart	Mar 2016	#54
Your poll engages in a false dichotomy. There are other choices.	Agnosticsherbet	Mar 2016	#61
There's a lot government can do about structural racism because government harbors a lot of it.	Kip Humphrey	Mar 2016	#68
Government can't end the fact that people with certain last names don't get called	liberal_at_heart	Mar 2016	#74
This may be a bit JFKesk but setting a tone and following that tone up with programs	Kip Humphrey	Mar 2016	#76
"Generaton Y-Not!" I like that. It is great to see them fighting injustice when they see it and	liberal_at_heart	Mar 2016	#78
Yes they can do something about the last name issue	Kalidurga	Mar 2016	#119
I think government has to deal with both.	kcr	Mar 2016	#79
definately part of the solution.	litlbilly	Mar 2016	#82
Neither. One drives the other and that one isn't going away. Ever. So neither is the other.	So Far From Heaven	Mar 2016	#86
President Obama is well off financially and he experiences racism all the time.	riversedge	Mar 2016	#102
Everyone here, ask this question to yourself	AZ Progressive	Mar 2016	#103
Except racism keeps many poor and they did not prosper like immigrants because their color	bravenak	Mar 2016	#105
No but the link between average economic status as a group and racism is there	AZ Progressive	Mar 2016	#106
Might be hard but it's gone on too long. Time to shit or get off the pot, we need to do it.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#107
What a scream!	Depaysement	Mar 2016	#109
Racism is complicated	senz	Mar 2016	#110
Pass on the question	Chitown Kev	Mar 2016	#113
Income inequality is a symptom of racism, but it's not the same thing	Onlooker	Mar 2016	#115
I think "income inequality" is a very broad a term	loyalsister	Mar 2016	#116
Don't care how much money you have or earn, racism is based on skin color and that won't change. nt	Jitter65	Mar 2016	#118
What a great and well explained poll! /nt	delrem	Mar 2016	#120

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