2016 Postmortem

Chitown Kev

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206. The sad thing to me is...

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:27 AM

Mar 2016

that it's all about a fucking politician...and an obviously unprepared one, at that.

It's not as if these issues between white progressives and black people (progressive or not) didn't already exist; indeed, they existed for decades.

And Sanders seems to have been oblivious to some of these issues...maybe living in Vermont as opposed to, say, Brooklyn, enabled him to not see them...

..even with that...he knew the primary schedule and what needed to be done...but of course to many of Bernie's followers, Bernie can do no wrong.

The sad thing is I rather like Bernie Sanders. I don't think that Tad Devine has done him any favors. And I don't think that some of his supporters have done him any favors either.

Anyway, the problem here long predates the candidacy of Bernie Sanders.

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I see we all are suffering from some horrible amnesia [View all] bravenak Mar 2016 OP

Too bad so sad Politicalboi Mar 2016 #1

Got the brakes beat off him bravenak Mar 2016 #2

Only if you mean griffi94 Mar 2016 #38

Yep. Exactly. He won in theory. bravenak Mar 2016 #50

So, but, if Sanders did apologize for DUers and Hortensis Mar 2016 #250

Do you have a source for your assertion? Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #278

EVERYONE has a source. Hillary is Sanders's current Hortensis Mar 2016 #279

So, you don't have a source. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #289

And his wife is on the waste disposal board--it's a paying position...!! nt MADem Mar 2016 #292

He got the participation trophy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #301

I feel sorry for you. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #277

Here come all Senator Sanders' wins!! My state, WA, is one of the ones bringing it home for him! JimDandy Mar 2016 #147

Ever notice that the bullies are always the ones to play the victim card. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #286

Accusations of bullying are funny coming from you. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #304

The Admins openly support Clinton, MIRT and the Host Forum are disproportionaly favoring Clinton rhett o rick Mar 2016 #309

Ah huh Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #313

So glad you're back. Nt gwheezie Mar 2016 #3

Hey! Me too. I feel like a felon. bravenak Mar 2016 #29

Oooh oooh, don't forget that we don't know what's good for us. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #4

Oh! Real shit we be dum bravenak Mar 2016 #24

And Confederates!! Tanuki Mar 2016 #218

Suffrin frum dat ol' Stockholm syndrome Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #305

I saw all I needed from some after Hillary won South Carolina. grossproffit Mar 2016 #5

That op.... OMG bravenak Mar 2016 #47

Yup.....still can't believe that certain posts didn't get hidden at the time....... thelordofhell Mar 2016 #59

Juror #3 voted to keep a blatantly racist OP but calls SC Den voters giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #114

He appears to have finally self-deleted that OP. So I guess there's that Number23 Mar 2016 #196

Just voted to hide a similar racist and condescending post but it was over-ruled. Looks like some kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #202

LOL polly7 Mar 2016 #6

Same way I feel about bernie losing bravenak Mar 2016 #9

So? polly7 Mar 2016 #12

Do you vote here? bravenak Mar 2016 #18

No. polly7 Mar 2016 #19

I'm sorry that SOME Bernie supporters behaved terribly. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #7

Bernie is not the better candidate precisely because he allowed this to go on bravenak Mar 2016 #33

WTF? Bernie "allowed this to go on" precisely how? Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #48

Not just DU. bravenak Mar 2016 #57

Okay, I see. Damn. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #70

Yes. It's just like sexism and I still have no idea which it worse. bravenak Mar 2016 #82

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #229

They're a new kind of people..... fun n serious Mar 2016 #248

Good Grief! marew Mar 2016 #68

They have done not one of the things I listed bravenak Mar 2016 #88

Well, they've been pretty nasty to me. marew Mar 2016 #197

care to link mercuryblues Mar 2016 #239

I am in no way going to go back to all that! marew Mar 2016 #259

I call shenanigans. I posted a link to the only post you made in HRC where you claimed that shit PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #260

DUH! marew Mar 2016 #274

In other words mercuryblues Mar 2016 #267

Never happened. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #262

Um... no you weren't. The only truth in that is that you were banned. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #243

You are a natural comic! marew Mar 2016 #251

Nobody called you a name or told you that you are stupid or cursed at you or PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #253

OH MY GOD! marew Mar 2016 #271

shenanigans. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #272

I see mercuryblues Mar 2016 #268

Not even close! marew Mar 2016 #252

Where? I linked to the one and only post of yours in the HRC group. Nobody did any of what you claim PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #255

Good lord! marew Mar 2016 #265

You can trash Chelsea Clinton all day, but I still call shenanigans on your claim. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #266

A masters degree...with honors? Sheepshank Mar 2016 #264

I NEVER said once called names IN THAT THREAD! marew Mar 2016 #270

Here, read your own words...an essay, or several essays will not erase what you originally wrote Sheepshank Mar 2016 #283

You seem quite upset, perhaps you could show us what you're talking about? synergie Mar 2016 #295

Much more was done and still is done to me by the Bernie supporters. fun n serious Mar 2016 #249

Exactly! marew Mar 2016 #254

you should think about voting for Bernie, wendylaroux Mar 2016 #76

He ain't no good at community organizing bravenak Mar 2016 #87

sure he is,he's real good. wendylaroux Mar 2016 #100

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. polly7 Mar 2016 #79

So thats why bernie let his fans run wild. Ok. bravenak Mar 2016 #86

Bernie had nothing to do with your filth over there and bringing it hear to make all your polly7 Mar 2016 #89

Deflection bravenak Mar 2016 #92

Nah .......... truth. Look up the meaning of it. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #94

Blah bravenak Mar 2016 #95

It's your fault. The transparency is there but it's not what they think. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #97

Maddening bravenak Mar 2016 #101

Flat out dismissal of racism by way of deflection. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #111

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #115

Agree. lovemydog Mar 2016 #193

Plus a freaking million Number23 Mar 2016 #198

+1,000 Vattel Mar 2016 #98

Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT pintobean Mar 2016 #134

+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #200

Damn, that's Conservative Cave level of insanity. SMC22307 Mar 2016 #299

.^that x100 840high Mar 2016 #315

Does Bernie have to get special permission to be "allowed to go on?" RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #233

"allowed" Martin Eden Mar 2016 #285

That is hands down the dumbest thing I have ever read on DU AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #312

I like your post. Thank you. of course it isn't all Sanders supporters, just the loudest seabeyond Mar 2016 #45

Some of the best. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #154

The blatant marginalization of minorities is still shocking to me. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #8

It blew my fucking mind bravenak Mar 2016 #13

And some folks here think it's funny. JTFrog Mar 2016 #14

What about anti-Semitism? No one seems to want to talk about anti-semitism. Please see post 299, kath Mar 2016 #307

Thanks for equating the Left with the KKK. I'm sure you'll go away again for good, once leveymg Mar 2016 #10

I said DONALD GAVE THE KKK FIFTEEN MINUTES OF FAME bravenak Mar 2016 #15

How else is one to read " with the left marginalizing us in other ways"? leveymg Mar 2016 #31

Ways other than how the donald does bravenak Mar 2016 #46

Another insinuation and false equivalency. leveymg Mar 2016 #53

Amnesia bravenak Mar 2016 #61

No, I never forget a wrong. nt leveymg Mar 2016 #73

Nor do those who have been wronged. People keep wondering where the anger synergie Mar 2016 #181

+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #71

She did not do that in any way shape or form. lovemydog Mar 2016 #32

She wrote it, and it's there for all to read. nt leveymg Mar 2016 #37

Yes, and there's only one reasonable explanation of what it meant. lovemydog Mar 2016 #58

Ah, the tone of reason. Like a shroud that covers the gruesome remains leveymg Mar 2016 #69

Ah, the old 'accuse an average poster of being a dirty trickster' lovemydog Mar 2016 #102

Bravenak, "an average poster"? You insult her far more eloquently. leveymg Mar 2016 #119

Again, you misread the post. lovemydog Mar 2016 #130

I certainly got a piece of it first time at bat. leveymg Mar 2016 #146

My take lovemydog Mar 2016 #171

Doesn't everyone feel disrespected here? leveymg Mar 2016 #189

No. lovemydog Mar 2016 #191

Geez, we didn' t go to the same Middle School. leveymg Mar 2016 #195

Yup! Sure is! n/t marew Mar 2016 #74

Yeah we can all read it and see you're lying about what she said. gollygee Mar 2016 #222

ALERTER'S COMMENTS MisterP Mar 2016 #34

Just FYI: chervilant Mar 2016 #36

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #81

She said no such thing. Stop making things up. It is shameful of you. riversedge Mar 2016 #142

God I love you ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #11

I love you too bravenak Mar 2016 #16

Yes, there Is a �BernieBro� Problem. The denial is fomenting mistrust of harassment victims in a PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #17

Damn perfect essay bravenak Mar 2016 #21

They're still out in force. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #26

. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #28

Yet they call us Third Wayers, corporatist S and DINO's. What hypocrisy. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #49

Case & point. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #56

Poor little souls. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #60

The word is NARCISSISM. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #64

Sorry, about your hide, giftedgirl.. for being dead on. It's a badge of honor. just abuse alert Cha Mar 2016 #214

This is a really awesome post MaggieD Mar 2016 #20

It would have been an instant vacay bravenak Mar 2016 #23

Don't forget that AAs are "low information voters"! zappaman Mar 2016 #22

Let me edit that in bravenak Mar 2016 #25

or committing political harakiri Quayblue Mar 2016 #284

No one is stopping you or anyone else from fighting Republicans and focusing on the GE. Autumn Mar 2016 #27

Nobody said they were bravenak Mar 2016 #30

You are not at a point where you want to either move on to fighting republicans Autumn Mar 2016 #35

Bye autumn bravenak Mar 2016 #40

Please include the Ice Cube "bye felcia" gif to this reply. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #85

Heh bravenak Mar 2016 #93

We need President Obama hitting the stump and hitting the Republicans hard. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #39

I agree bravenak Mar 2016 #41

voting for someone whose policies have directly hurt you for decades MisterP Mar 2016 #42

Ah. The condescension redstateblues Mar 2016 #62

Thank you bravenak Mar 2016 #129

Amnesia... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #43

This thread isn't about that. But I guess you think geek tragedy Mar 2016 #52

It's a thread in GD primaries about candidates and amnesia and one candidate just had a big Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #104

Well no you care about scoring points against Clinton geek tragedy Mar 2016 #122

I found her comment to be disgusting and hurtful. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #169

Amnesia indeed! RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #235

What "resolution" do you have in mind? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #44

I'll take just fucking admitting it happened and not acting brand new for the most part bravenak Mar 2016 #65

Sorry bravenak. I apologize for the ignorant comments being made on this site. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #204

It must drive them completely fucking batshit Codeine Mar 2016 #51

I think it does bravenak Mar 2016 #145

Thank you. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #162

Same here cemaphonic Mar 2016 #207

I too saw this over and over bravenak. lovemydog Mar 2016 #54

I Know. bravenak Mar 2016 #172

It made me laugh. lovemydog Mar 2016 #182

Ha!!! Exactly!! bravenak Mar 2016 #186

And folks are still hiding bravenak's posts. For quoting an OP that slapped every black and gay Number23 Mar 2016 #199

Yeah, I too saw that bullshit hide. lovemydog Mar 2016 #203

If you are that eager to focus on the general election ... surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #55

I was about to say the same thing Armstead Mar 2016 #63

Anyone but Bush 2004 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #77

It's an obscure reference to the continuum of the message Armstead Mar 2016 #110

I get the impression that Jeb is quite smarter than George W, 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #136

If he weren't a GOP neanderthal, I think I'd like Jeb Armstead Mar 2016 #141

I can MULTITASK bravenak Mar 2016 #67

That's good. surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #72

Love your post rock Mar 2016 #66

Thank you bravenak Mar 2016 #180

Waiting the jury on this......nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #75

And we are in..... msanthrope Mar 2016 #99

OH THANK YOU!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #103

Always. We are back. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #107

Feels so much better. bravenak Mar 2016 #112

No kidding. The air is clearing. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #118

Might not have been smart to run us all off bravenak Mar 2016 #123

Not only that revmclaren Mar 2016 #185

Hee hee!! bravenak Mar 2016 #187

Then the risk of a hide was worth it. revmclaren Mar 2016 #190

Add Stockholm Willy to the list of those heading to chill at the 'other forum'. revmclaren Mar 2016 #245

Juror #4 is really upset the alert-stalking scheme they had going geek tragedy Mar 2016 #125

Cheers to us! Cha Mar 2016 #215

Somebody is cutting & pasting their alerts bc I just got a hide with giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #132

Alert on it......lower left corner of the notice. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #137

So you can still post in this thread with a hide?! Cha Mar 2016 #216

And you as well. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #78

Such brutal words. Blatant racism is running wild. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #80

In response: chervilant Mar 2016 #83

Clinton, her surrogates, and Clinton supporters like you Vattel Mar 2016 #84

Just a note: you're demanding that a black woman NuclearDem Mar 2016 #121

I don't think she should apologize to me. She didn't hurt my feelings. Vattel Mar 2016 #160

The only smear campaign is the one you imagined for yourselves. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #164

uh-huh. Vattel Mar 2016 #165

The BernieBro myth is driving people out of the party jfern Mar 2016 #90

They don't really care about the party. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #131

Many weren't in the party to begin with. Nor was Bernie. He'll revert to IND after the primary. nt Fla Dem Mar 2016 #234

Great job shrinking the party! jfern Mar 2016 #275

It's not a myth Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #280

There are tons of asshole Hillary supporters jfern Mar 2016 #288

There's denial, there's refusal, there's bald-face naked-ass lying Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #91

I swear they straight up Forgot.... bravenak Mar 2016 #106

I expect Republicans to say ugly things. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #96

Me too. It stressed me out and I was not allowed to respond. bravenak Mar 2016 #133

Why would you think we would care? nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #105

I DONT THIS WAS NOT FOR YOU IF YOU DONT CARE bravenak Mar 2016 #108

You cared enough to read it and reply. So.... PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #113

Yep, that took a whole lot of effort. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #116

What makes you think we'd care that you don't care about a person is pouring out her soul saying she PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #124

My Gawd, you will fall for anything. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #127

There is no need for you to address a fellow member of our board in such a dismissive member. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #120

Members that disrepect others don't deserve respect either. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #128

i don't know you from adam, and you are the one who is disrespectful in this thread.... Digital Puppy Mar 2016 #240

You are right about only one thing, you don't know me. nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #241

And yet you've made such a deep impression to me and others reading your 'insightful' comments Digital Puppy Mar 2016 #244

Meh... nt Live and Learn Mar 2016 #256

Feel free to focus on the General Election when the primaries are over. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #109

Imma do the focus on the general and the memory recoveries bravenak Mar 2016 #117

Aren't you special. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #135

Yes bravenak Mar 2016 #140

I have to say I respect your creativity. Jet pack? That's awesome. Always wanted to try that! cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #149

Allright bravenak Mar 2016 #152

If there's one reason for Bernie to persist right up until the convention, it's people like you. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #126

Wtg, you nailed several of the OPs points in just a few sentences. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #144

Like I said, all the way to the convention. You can't silence people just because you want to. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #151

Ummm many of us minorities on this board don't need the kind giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #155

It's not a minority thing. If you wanna make it a race thing...go ahead, governor. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #159

". . . what is wrong with you folks. . ." Codeine Mar 2016 #168

OMFG Recursion Mar 2016 #211

SMFH..... Digital Puppy Mar 2016 #242

lofl!! "you folks" lofl!!! in a post chiding those for dividing dems on race... sigh.. I come here.. uponit7771 Mar 2016 #261

GodDAMN!! Codeine Mar 2016 #166

I would think it was high-level sarcasm if I hadn't seen the past few months unfold Recursion Mar 2016 #213

If anyone disputes it just search their name and BLM. joshcryer Mar 2016 #138

Damn straight. bravenak Mar 2016 #150

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #139

So is everything else bravenak Mar 2016 #143

Yup, Hillary's pathetic climate change proposal dooms us if she wins riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #158

It seems that many chervilant Mar 2016 #227

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #148

I told you at the time to STOP IT bravenak Mar 2016 #153

But wait, there's more!! PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #177

That's rich coming from you. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #156

Just another battlefield grunt in Meme City '16 leveymg Mar 2016 #157

Wow. This takes some special kind of moxie. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #167

I Get To Discuss Anything I Fucking Want To... WillyT Mar 2016 #173

No, but you've demonstrated time and time again that you are. NuclearDem Mar 2016 #176

Nope, not anymore. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #257

Not on DU, you don't. Not anymore. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #258

+1 jack_krass Mar 2016 #175

Exhibit A: how to help your candidate lose: Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #183

I support Bernie and I did none of those things. n/t Loudestlib Mar 2016 #161

So i guess none of it matters then bravenak Mar 2016 #163

If that's what you think. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #194

You are totally awesome! brer cat Mar 2016 #170

Thank you bravenak Mar 2016 #174

Yeah... That'll Work... WillyT Mar 2016 #178

Says Mr. Stockholm Syndrome lovemydog Mar 2016 #184

It is just amazing!!! bravenak Mar 2016 #188

About the 1990s? Indubitably. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #179

Great OP Gothmog Mar 2016 #192

K&R betsuni Mar 2016 #201

K and R BainsBane Mar 2016 #205

The sad thing to me is... Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #206

Kick & very highly recommended! William769 Mar 2016 #208

Re-kick - must read MaggieD Mar 2016 #209

Yep, that's what they do.. when they see it's not working anymore they want to forget it ever Cha Mar 2016 #210

We will never forget! Haveadream Mar 2016 #217

It's unforgiveable Haveadream. Cha Mar 2016 #219

Berniebros! murielm99 Mar 2016 #220

Some of these responses are just surreal Recursion Mar 2016 #212

Shameful and disgusting behavior ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #221

DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2016 #223

k&r Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #224

righteous obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #225

I won't forget the berniebros workinclasszero Mar 2016 #226

I reject your premise. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #228

bravenak, this will be the best news you get today. William769 Mar 2016 #230

Is this another "Mom! They're pickin' on me!" OP? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #231

Amnesia my buns! RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #232

Some folk forgot there we can screen save so even if they edit the post there are still pics uponit7771 Mar 2016 #236

I wonder how many Bernie supporters, who are not like me, who are REALLY pissed at black Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #237

Most of the US voters messiah Mar 2016 #238

Do you think Bernie is racist? n/t Dawgs Mar 2016 #246

Didn't he have a person who called Obama "n-word-ized" stump for him while in IA and NH?! Sanders uponit7771 Mar 2016 #263

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #247

No, he decided to try to make the super-delegates wildeyed Mar 2016 #269

My Dear Bravenak, I wouldn't hold my breath. That egomaniac wannabe cult leader.... Walk away Mar 2016 #273

Just keeping this kicked so DU can see.... MaggieD Mar 2016 #276

It sucks. Turin_C3PO Mar 2016 #281

K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #282

I would like to remind you that the Left that you disparage so hatefully, has done more for rhett o rick Mar 2016 #287

^^^ hay rick Mar 2016 #290

Didn't you endorse other folks accusing Bravenak and other African Americans stevenleser Mar 2016 #303

If someone said that Patty Hearst appeared to be suffering from Stockholm Syndrom rhett o rick Mar 2016 #306

In the case of WillyT Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #311

His campaign Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #291

KIckin' for you/us! "stockholm syndrome" Cha Mar 2016 #293

Big K&R FrenchieCat Mar 2016 #294

More than most, I think your grievance is righteous. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #296

Really? Seeinghope Mar 2016 #297

Would you mind commenting on this post coyote Mar 2016 #298

Wow - just WOW 840high Mar 2016 #308

+1000 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #300

Yup, and we remind folks by kicking some of the ugly OPs and they accuse us stevenleser Mar 2016 #302

All they have are accusations and insults.. worst campaign ever. Cha Mar 2016 #314

Concentration of wealth is epidemic in this country. gordianot Mar 2016 #310

I'll tell you one thing that will never be forgotten: SMC22307 Mar 2016 #316

What do you mean you'll never forget? actslikeacarrot Mar 2016 #317