2016 Postmortem

eridani

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2. Democratic Socialism = Champlain Housing Trust

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:31 AM

Mar 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champlain_Housing_Trust

Also, employee-owned businesses

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/economic-intelligence/2013/11/07/why-employee-owned-businesses-work

Worker-owned businesses are on the rise. The number of worker-owned business in the U.S. is growing robustly, around 6 percent per year, and these businesses now account for about 12 percent of the private sector workforce. Yet, worker-owned business are frequently disparaged as "not quite capitalism." Skeptics repeat the cliché that worker-owners bog down seeking consensus on the most minor points.

The skeptics should keep in mind that some the world's most respected business organizations are in fact, owned entirely by their staff. It's true for top tier law firms and accounting firms. It's true for leading management consultants like McKinsey. And top investment banks like Goldman Sachs were partnerships until relatively recently in their history.

Members of worker-owned co-ops may not think of their businesses as having anything in common with top-tier professional services firms, but there are several important similarities between the two structures:

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There's a reason why "democratic socialism" has never actually existed. [View all] DanTex Mar 2016 OP

I guess France doesn't exist in your world. Or most of Europe for that matter CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #1

France is not a socialist nation. It is a capitalist nation with a strong safety net. DanTex Mar 2016 #3

Or the US for that matter. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #8

Democratic Socialism = Champlain Housing Trust eridani Mar 2016 #2

Since employee-owned business already exist, no need for Bernie to try to trash the Democratic DanTex Mar 2016 #5

I just canvassed a voter today who will vote Trump if Clinton is the nominee eridani Mar 2016 #6

Well, she's gonna be the nominee, so hopefully Bernie gets on board soon rather than scorching the DanTex Mar 2016 #11

Save that one until after the convention n/t eridani Mar 2016 #15

With regard to these individuals ... NurseJackie Mar 2016 #4

Yes they are. Selfish, and entitled. DanTex Mar 2016 #10

really? beedle Mar 2016 #62

I suspect most of the "Bern it down" crowd are younger voters . . . brush Mar 2016 #58

Okay, I'll bite beedle Mar 2016 #61

Please elaborate DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #63

I never said they were comfortable beedle Mar 2016 #65

Bernie expecting a coronation. Socialism is absurd. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #7

"Expecting a coronation." Thanks for the laugh. Perfect way to start a Friday. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #45

Your weakest OP ever. aikoaiko Mar 2016 #9

Yep. FUD. Orsino Mar 2016 #57

Not sure why that makes you believe he wants us all to go live on agricultural collectives. eShirl Mar 2016 #12

Given that he wants to override the will of the electorate, who knows anymore. DanTex Mar 2016 #13

This OP is just gonzo. coyote Mar 2016 #14

The narritive of Bernie being a good democrat is falling away with his losses workinclasszero Mar 2016 #16

Excellent OP. leftofcool Mar 2016 #17

Well, you better get ready for President Trump, because no way that a Dem wins this year. n/t Dawgs Mar 2016 #18

You think Trump can win without the AA vote, the Latino vote and the female vote? leftofcool Mar 2016 #28

Yes I do. Have you been paying attention to politics for the past twenty years? Dawgs Mar 2016 #30

Oka-a-a-a-a-y, hope you don't really believe that. brush Mar 2016 #59

You have truly jumped the shark. Vattel Mar 2016 #19

LOL. I've gotten used to the empty ad-hominems. DanTex Mar 2016 #20

Usually I support my claims. Vattel Mar 2016 #22

LOL. "I support my claims". At least you have a sense of humor. DanTex Mar 2016 #24

Scandinavian countries are primarily socialistic democracies Vinca Mar 2016 #21

Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism are not the same thing. DanTex Mar 2016 #23

Social democracy is what Bernie is promoting. Vinca Mar 2016 #38

That is true. He's been misusing the term "democratic socialism" for decades. DanTex Mar 2016 #40

Your opening statement defines communism, not democratic socialism. Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #25

Wrong. Democratic socialism involves a government run economy under democratic control. DanTex Mar 2016 #29

Democratic Socialism is not defined as you think Bad Thoughts Mar 2016 #26

Actually, yes it is. You're thinking of "Social Democracy", which is not the same thing. DanTex Mar 2016 #27

Sorry, you're right about the distinction. eom. Bad Thoughts Mar 2016 #36

There's a COMMIE hiding under your bed! Look out! stone space Mar 2016 #31

Who said anything about communism? Why do Bernie fans have such a hard time distinguishing DanTex Mar 2016 #33

Then maybe Trickle Down Economics is right for you!? Octafish Mar 2016 #32

That's what Bernie's trying to bring about with his scorched earth. DanTex Mar 2016 #34

sorry... I didn't get past "seize the means of production" tk2kewl Mar 2016 #35

Actually, you should read up. Democratic socialism involves having the government own the DanTex Mar 2016 #37

I can't expand on this OP for two reasons. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #39

Democratic socialism isn't communism or authoritarian socialism... qdouble Mar 2016 #41

You are definitely right about that. Socialism refers to the economic system, not DanTex Mar 2016 #42

In a GE, Bernie would be hoping that the general electorate qdouble Mar 2016 #49

I'm embarrassed for you DanTex. Even the MSM acknowledges FourScore Mar 2016 #43

The feeling of embarrassment is mutual. It's great you put so much faith in the MSM, DanTex Mar 2016 #46

Really? Wikipedia is your source? That explains a lot. n/t FourScore Mar 2016 #48

Look it up anywhere you want. It's not some novel obscure concept. Anyone with a background DanTex Mar 2016 #50

Bernie must really scare you. alarimer Mar 2016 #44

If he's going scorched earth, as he seems to be, it is indeed very concerning. DanTex Mar 2016 #47

Bernie only began adding the word "democratic" redstateblues Mar 2016 #51

Bingo! Going with Democratic Socialist instead of Social Democrat immediately . . . brush Mar 2016 #60

Winners And Lots Of Losers colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #52

Just.plain.silly. Democratic socialism exist and is by far the most successful gov model operating Schema Thing Mar 2016 #53

LOL. Red bait much? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #54

LOL. I don't remember saying anything about Communism. DanTex Mar 2016 #55

Really? I didn't know Karl Marx was a capitlist. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #56

ignorance on display; total misunderstanding of dem soc; amborin Mar 2016 #64