2016 Postmortem

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)

94. What???

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:13 PM

Mar 2016

He doesn't attend an annual gathering of Israel's most powerful 'buy American politicians and conduct espionage' organization in the country and this is bad??? Here's what President Obama had to say about it last year when it was buying ads against the Iran nuclear deal - "Lobbyists spending millions of dollars for the liberal hawk rhetoric that got the US involved in the Iraq war."

AIPAC is the second most powerful 'lobbying' group in the United States, and it acts exclusively on behalf of a foreign nation. No other country in the world has anything like it in the United States, and it has somehow dodged multiple attempts to be formally designated as what it is - a foreign agent.

Just a little thing, I suppose, but have a look: http://mondoweiss.net/2014/09/elizabeth-sanders-bandwagon/

The first serious Jewish contender for the Presidency ever, and he's probably the best chance for real peace in the Middle East since 1948. And Hillary Clinton, whose largest individual donor of all time is Haim Saban. He made his fortune selling 'Power Rangers' and has spent a fortune lobbying the United States to keep sending Israel arms and vetoing every UNSC resolution calling out its dangerous apartheid and land-theft policies.

About half of Israeli Jews are now in favor of expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel:
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/09/ethnic_cleansing_is_shockingly_popular_in_israel_almost_half_of_israeli_jews_want_to_kick_out_arabs_pew_study/

Remarkably parallel to the statements of Donald Trump, isn't it?

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Bernie bails on AIPAC [View all] DCBob Mar 2016 OP

They should let him do a video bravenak Mar 2016 #1

He just hasn't got what is needed to be our president. cwydro Mar 2016 #51

I agree bravenak Mar 2016 #53

And the walking out on interviews... cwydro Mar 2016 #60

It just looks bad. bravenak Mar 2016 #66

I was a long time Hillary supporter. cwydro Mar 2016 #78

I was ready to fully support him bravenak Mar 2016 #83

Perfectly put. cwydro Mar 2016 #91

'The solutions are impractical and unachievable.'... RiverNoord Mar 2016 #100

He does not have the ability to get it done bravenak Mar 2016 #102

Bernie Sanders' legislative record is vastly more impressive than that of Senator Hillary Clinton's RiverNoord Mar 2016 #118

Oh? bravenak Mar 2016 #121

'Hardcore?' Are we street gangs fighting over who gets to hang out on an intersection? RiverNoord Mar 2016 #131

What??? RiverNoord Mar 2016 #94

He's holding campaign events instead. How is that "giving up"? arcane1 Mar 2016 #2

Good grief... this is a big event. DCBob Mar 2016 #3

Um, campaign events are generally planned around primaries, etc. Not random. arcane1 Mar 2016 #9

FYI.. Bernie is toast.. he is not going win the nomination. DCBob Mar 2016 #12

So you say. You're wrong, and your opinion is just that. arcane1 Mar 2016 #16

Well anyone who has looked and understands the math knows this is over. DCBob Mar 2016 #52

Why waste your time with this guy? pangaia Mar 2016 #56

That hurts my feelings. DCBob Mar 2016 #70

Seriously. I'd be better off talking to a pinecone. n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #146

Heard by millions of West Bank colonists no less. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #31

Oh please CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #54

Not the "end of the world".. just the end of Bernie. DCBob Mar 2016 #58

Actually, it's not Bob CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #69

No doubt Bernie will trudge on. DCBob Mar 2016 #71

Actually, speaking against AIPAC would be the bigger opportunity JackRiddler Mar 2016 #61

Exactly. DCBob Mar 2016 #62

Oh so pandering to AIPAC, which is a lobbying group, is more choie Mar 2016 #104

Who said anything about pandering?? DCBob Mar 2016 #105

I say it's pandering... choie Mar 2016 #114

So if he speaks his mind will they just yank him off the stage? DCBob Mar 2016 #115

Come on - - choie Mar 2016 #116

He should go for it. DCBob Mar 2016 #120

I'm sure you would love that... choie Mar 2016 #122

Wow - what a brainwash. What can we ever hope to achieve RiverNoord Mar 2016 #124

Make a statement. DCBob Mar 2016 #125

Looks petty. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #28

Don't overuse that now. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #65

So what? His loyalty is to the United States. Octafish Mar 2016 #4

Yes, and same for Hillary. DCBob Mar 2016 #10

Is the event going to be about which party presses their face R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #55

Bernie is sooo bad. He offereed because of conflict of schedule to do it by bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #5

If he is willing to do a video.. he should have done it in person. DCBob Mar 2016 #15

+100000. eom Karma13612 Mar 2016 #117

It was courageous of Bernie to avoid AIPAC. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #6

He should have gone into the "lion's den" and spoke his mind. DCBob Mar 2016 #24

Seems like someone took offense... chervilant Mar 2016 #29

But he was "brave" going to Liberty U? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #30

+1 DCBob Mar 2016 #42

he was willing to do a video, which they did not accept virtualobserver Mar 2016 #45

BRAVO !! pangaia Mar 2016 #64

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2016 #103

Ab-solutely right, Ken farleftlib Mar 2016 #40

Damn straight. RiverNoord Mar 2016 #97

Giving up??? RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #7

Are there Dems in here that are supporters of AIPAC over American Voters? DFab420 Mar 2016 #8

Not me.. but whats wrong with speaking at this event? DCBob Mar 2016 #13

Is Likud now synonymous with Israel? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #11

GOod for Bernie Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #14

Bernie has about a zero chance of winning this thing. DCBob Mar 2016 #18

Bernie has to win the caucuses in Idaho and Utah and Wash. He's been pointing to them for weeks. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #17

He can win them but it wont matter.. its over. DCBob Mar 2016 #20

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #41

As usual, the slight distortions of the truth make it look TM99 Mar 2016 #19

In person would be much more effective.. no? DCBob Mar 2016 #21

Why? TM99 Mar 2016 #23

For obvious reasons. DCBob Mar 2016 #25

Hardly obvious. TM99 Mar 2016 #35

Why waste time with this guy. pangaia Mar 2016 #68

That hurts. DCBob Mar 2016 #81

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #85

Save your breath and risk of alerts. It's hopeless. MerryBlooms Mar 2016 #34

I don't care about their alerts. TM99 Mar 2016 #37

LOL... DCBob Mar 2016 #39

:P MerryBlooms Mar 2016 #95

Good for Bernie re: AIPAC. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #22

I happen to disagree NWCorona Mar 2016 #26

Why not? DCBob Mar 2016 #43

LOL! When do Israelis vote for Bernie? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #27

Its not about votes.. its about getting his message out. DCBob Mar 2016 #33

Message out to whom...besides apartheid's lobbyists??? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #57

The world media will cover this event extensively. DCBob Mar 2016 #59

Like they cover CPAC. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #63

CPAC is a joke. DCBob Mar 2016 #67

So is AIPAC. World media...LOL! R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #123

The world media wont be covering this event? DCBob Mar 2016 #126

It's a BS RW talking point of epic proportions R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #128

Good. Scootaloo Mar 2016 #32

... chervilant Mar 2016 #36

Go, Bernie... GO! AzDar Mar 2016 #38

Salon is trying to make this into some kind of "principled stand," despite the letter Sanders sent. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #44

Sounds like when I make excuses to blow off a party I dont want to go to. DCBob Mar 2016 #47

except you probably aren't invited to extreme-right political parties...are you? islandmkl Mar 2016 #132

speaking of drivel azurnoir Mar 2016 #129

Very smart of him. bvf Mar 2016 #46

Very dumb of him. DCBob Mar 2016 #50

Tad Devine strikes again. okasha Mar 2016 #74

Exactly. DCBob Mar 2016 #76

LOL noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #86

Yes I do. DCBob Mar 2016 #89

Now you're just repeating yourself. bvf Mar 2016 #96

Well, when I get the same question over and over... I give the same answer. DCBob Mar 2016 #99

You seem to be under the impression bvf Mar 2016 #143

Good Truprogressive85 Mar 2016 #48

To give em hell! DCBob Mar 2016 #49

Yeah I forgot about that Politicalboi Mar 2016 #72

Like you care a whit about Bernie..... TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #73

Not really. DCBob Mar 2016 #75

Right. Playing second fiddle to Hillary. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #77

I think it more as a tag team. DCBob Mar 2016 #79

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #87

Quick, get Hillary to send more arms to Saudi Arabia! Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #80

Bernie is not giving up. All he did was say no to AIPAC. 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #82

Then why? DCBob Mar 2016 #84

Why is it not smart? notadmblnd Mar 2016 #88

Please read above. DCBob Mar 2016 #90

Could you be more specific? Perhaps you could use copy and paste? notadmblnd Mar 2016 #119

No, you're not. bvf Mar 2016 #144

Nothing there for him anyway. ucrdem Mar 2016 #92

Yes.. unfortunately DCBob Mar 2016 #93

Well, it was never his strong suit, and he's had a rotten week ucrdem Mar 2016 #98

I will worry about Bernie bailing on AIPAC, right after Hillary bails on Goldman Sacs. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #101

This- 1,000,000 RECS!! choie Mar 2016 #106

Thank God Bernie is not appearing in front of a group that has no interest in a two state solution. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #107

I support Hillary and I wouldn't go to this. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #108

Hillary is going. DCBob Mar 2016 #109

I know. I myself would not fun n serious Mar 2016 #110

I think she will.. that's why its important to go. DCBob Mar 2016 #111

Well then yes. I am glad she is going fun n serious Mar 2016 #112

Trump is going. DCBob Mar 2016 #113

Yes, Hillary is definitely a warmonger jfern Mar 2016 #127

Hillary didn't attend NetRoots. John Poet Mar 2016 #130

Big supporter of AIPAC are ya? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #133

They make me puke. DCBob Mar 2016 #134

KUDOS to Bernie then, right? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #135

No. Sometimes one needs to go in the lion's den. DCBob Mar 2016 #136

LOL cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #137

Brilliant retort. DCBob Mar 2016 #138

I give as good as I get. Contemplate that for a minute or two. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #139

Done. DCBob Mar 2016 #140

Took you two minutes to contemplate 14 words. My work is done here. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #141

Funny. DCBob Mar 2016 #142

Remember when Clinton bailed on the BET: Criminal Justice Reform to attend a fundraiser ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #145

Our maybe saying no to AIPAC might be a good thing. 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #147