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46. The Backfire Effect in Practice
Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:37 PM
Mar 2016

The Backfire Effect is one of the most infuriating new developments in politics and one of the major differences between liberal and conservative voters.

Simply put, conservatives are too stupid to evaluate between truth and falsehood. They rely upon the "authority" of the speaker and if a speaker they trust lies, and that lie is refuted by a liberal, they automatically gravitate toward the lie because they are not capable of evaluating the truth and instead default to the (totally untrustworthy) authority they trust.

This is why Republican candidates at the debates have adamantly stood by their lies even when stone-cold busted by facts and figures. By sticking to their guns when refuted with actual facts they are actually making stupid Republicans believe the lie they told.

Journalists help the Backfire Effect along quite a lot by 1) pretending it doesn't exist, and 2) pretending it works equally among all people. It does not. Some of all people default to the first thing they learned, true or not, but only conservatives become more likely to believe the lie when it is refuted.

You can see the Backfire Effect at work in the statistics above. Democratic candidates, playing to their own audience, have no incentive to lie and can suffer greatly for being deceptive (see Gary Hart, John Edwards). Conversely, Republican candidates are rewarded for lying, and you can see it in the stratification of the candidates from most dishonest (Trump) at the top to least dishonest at the bottom (Kasich).

Depending on who wins which nomination, some candidates may have an incentive to adjust their delivery by lying more or less, but at this point neither can do much adjusting. Trump must try his hand at telling the truth but his prior statements will always be used against him. Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, would benefit from not refuting false statements by Trump, which is its own form of dishonesty.

Thus we are all the victims of the use of fear and dishonesty in political statements. Nobody wins, except the most evil ones who can successfully wiggle like a catfish in the hippo-poop-mud of a drought-stricken African pond. Great.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021469106
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs11109-010-9112-2
http://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/
http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/the_backfire_effect.php?page=all

ahahhahahahahahahahahhaaa LOL hahhaha insta8er Mar 2016 #1
... Agschmid Mar 2016 #11
... Electric Monk Mar 2016 #22
Yes I agree it's an issue for her. Agschmid Mar 2016 #27
I know, right? CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #52
Somebody noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #2
Yes, it raises questions of "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Chan790 Mar 2016 #63
Excellent noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #71
LOL, this is an Onion article, right??? reformist2 Mar 2016 #3
The Star Tribune!!!!!! Chasstev365 Mar 2016 #4
Politifact.com LAS14 Mar 2016 #10
K&R! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #5
hahahahahahaha dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #6
Kersplurt.............. pangaia Mar 2016 #7
Rings true to me. nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #8
Why? What does "ring true" mean? snowy owl Mar 2016 #13
A serious question? LAS14 Mar 2016 #17
spot on redstateblues Mar 2016 #32
Correct rock Mar 2016 #45
Fits your perception. Funny. snowy owl Mar 2016 #48
Bwaahahahaaaa...n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #9
Problem - answers rarely direct so accuracy depends on interpretation snowy owl Mar 2016 #12
There is only one clear choice for President KingFlorez Mar 2016 #14
Do Bernie's promises that he knows he can't deliver on redstateblues Mar 2016 #15
Do we really want Hillary Clinton to "get things done" with Republicans? w4rma Mar 2016 #19
That'll do some damage. And is it a coincidence it looks like a MasterCard logo??? reformist2 Mar 2016 #25
Sigh, this is boring why haven't Sanders folk figured that out yet? She's a liberal and progressiv uponit7771 Mar 2016 #33
For you maybe Politicalboi Mar 2016 #35
Cornell West anyone? sigh... the lack of either listening or understanding is gob smacking uponit7771 Mar 2016 #37
NO, Hillary is NOT liberal or progressive "enough" John Poet Mar 2016 #61
we know precisely where she stands, but you don't seem to know noiretextatique Mar 2016 #70
.^that x100 840high Mar 2016 #53
This nonsense again... do I really need to debunk this again? basselope Mar 2016 #16
when you are white you don't know what it is like to be poor is true dsc Mar 2016 #39
Because unlike an ACTUAL LIE, it is a statement taken out of context basselope Mar 2016 #47
I knew Clinton was right! Armstead Mar 2016 #18
Post a verifiable quote of Hillary Clinton saying that 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #21
could I post something close to that for 100 dollars,I can really use the money hollysmom Mar 2016 #29
Listen to the debate in Florida (or read a transcript) Armstead Mar 2016 #51
Not just on the couch... 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #57
Since I Never expect to see your money.... Armstead Mar 2016 #59
Thanks for a very much needed LAUGH! n/t truedelphi Mar 2016 #20
K&R nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #23
Somebody on DU told me not to believe Downwinder Mar 2016 #24
Love it. Heads will explode - can't tarnish the halo don't 'cha know. K & R nt Persondem Mar 2016 #26
Not from sniper fire, I hope. Karmadillo Mar 2016 #31
LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2016 #38
More like lust for the F-35 Persondem Mar 2016 #69
They already have Renew Deal Mar 2016 #36
That's so much fucking BULLSHIT I don't know wear to start ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #28
Stand-up. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #30
Laughable colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #40
By a bunch of liars. cui bono Mar 2016 #41
Knee-slappingly... side-splittingly fucking Hillaryous. Absolutely mirth inducing... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #42
Amazing all the stupid responses to this OP. DCBob Mar 2016 #43
Sure it is. heeheeehee 840high Mar 2016 #54
I've never respected Politifact. Chan790 Mar 2016 #66
Look at Trump and Cruz. They make it up as they go along. Beacool Mar 2016 #44
The Backfire Effect in Practice sofa king Mar 2016 #46
Hillary Clinton Rated Most Truthiest Candidate frylock Mar 2016 #49
Truth-o-meter Another PR stunt. snowy owl Mar 2016 #50
It's interesting to me Jamaal510 Mar 2016 #55
Where on planet Bullshit? Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #56
Just so you know JackInGreen Mar 2016 #60
Thanks muchly, Jack Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #68
And the most realistic as well. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #58
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #62
absurd rating. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #64
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #65
And the people who reject the truth of this article out of hand fail with any argument. seabeyond Mar 2016 #67
Actually... Chan790 Mar 2016 #72
That's meaningless hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #73
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