2016 Postmortem

Herman4747

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63. So, Hillary is being highly illogical in hiding a benign speech...

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 04:02 PM

Mar 2016

Or,
Maybe she does have something to hide after all, in which case she's corrupt.

Uh, illogical or corrupt -- what is it?

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The transcripts are lose/lose for Hillary [View all] whatchamacallit Mar 2016 OP

Nobody gives a shit about those speeches so there is no one but upaloopa Mar 2016 #1

You don't think he'll bring them up? TCJ70 Mar 2016 #5

If Trump was willing to put out transcripts of all his paid talks, I bet she would as well. anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #15

I suspect he'd have no problem with that. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #18

Let's focus on your last point for a second... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #19

Haha fantasyland whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #22

I don't see any motive for Trump to bring up Hillary's speeches. upaloopa Mar 2016 #20

We'll see... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #25

You actually think Trump needs some rational reason to bring up things that dent his rivals? I don't Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #39

Because attacking "bought and paid for politicians" is central to his campaign. kristopher Mar 2016 #73

Says someone who doesn't care what she does as long as she wins whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #6

Do you really think Trump, or any R, is going to drop this? Gregorian Mar 2016 #8

It's the Sanders supporters version of sufrommich Mar 2016 #9

do you recall that the birth certifcate was released? FreedomRain Mar 2016 #52

Hi. I'm a Democrat and I care casperthegm Mar 2016 #21

That is a sad truth. Orsino Mar 2016 #26

Jeez, ask yourself why the corporate media doesn't give a shit... polichick Mar 2016 #27

Trump is already telling everyone how HE donated to HER when she was his senator to get favors jillan Mar 2016 #40

Nobody? You think this is just going to hound her in the primary? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #62

Lol..Only know-nothings don't "give a shit about those speeches" whathehell Mar 2016 #80

What I want to know -- where is wikileeks when you need them???? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #2

There would have to be records on accessible servers. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #23

In the wiki-soup? pkdu Mar 2016 #55

Yet somehow she's 300+ delegates ahead. Hmm. Sounds like a win to me. DanTex Mar 2016 #3

Might Makes Right! whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #7

You're the one who called it "lose/lose". It's looking like a pretty solid win. DanTex Mar 2016 #10

Not the election, the fallout is lose/lose whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #13

If she wins the election, the "fallout" doesn't matter. DanTex Mar 2016 #14

If she wins the election whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #17

Yes it does, governing is not expedited by scandal or surmise of such..... Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #42

The Goldman speeches are not going to be a scandal. It's simply a card that Bernie decided to play DanTex Mar 2016 #44

Keep voters in the dark about how messed up one is... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #56

The voters aren't in the dark. If they cared half as much about the Goldman speeches as DanTex Mar 2016 #68

Your beloved candidate has something to hide Herman4747 Mar 2016 #69

She's certainly not giving anything to the GOP for free. And like I said, not enough people DanTex Mar 2016 #71

Sad, isn't it -- people don't give a damn about Herman4747 Mar 2016 #74

I agree with you completely. Punkingal Mar 2016 #4

Yes, they've taken the less damaging path. whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #11

You seem convinced there is a conflict of interest in the speeches which is anything but guaranteed. LonePirate Mar 2016 #12

There's an easy, democracy affirming way to settle it whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #24

So if the current trend continues with Hillary winning a majority of primary votes ... LonePirate Mar 2016 #34

Of course not whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #35

You just said there is an easy, democracy affirming way of settling it. So you lied? LonePirate Mar 2016 #36

Oh brother whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #38

Democracy affirming occurs via voting. If she wins a majority of Dem votes, the people have spoken. LonePirate Mar 2016 #45

Obviously not a pro whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #47

My true allegiance? I voted for Bernie earlier this month. I just despise irrational hatemongering. LonePirate Mar 2016 #54

Cool story bro whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #65

The speeches are being concealed for real reasons. Orsino Mar 2016 #29

If there were any other valid reason, like an NDA... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #30

No, I doubt she would want to admit to a prior oath to Wall Street. Orsino Mar 2016 #75

Her contracts mandated that she is the only person to receive copies of the transcripts. arcane1 Mar 2016 #37

She needs more, or better, CYA writers. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #16

"which IMO are already clearly evident without the speeches." .... salinsky Mar 2016 #28

I see... probity is conditional, based on the attitudes of those seeking the truth whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #33

reining in wall street is not enough! wall street must be taxed -- not main street (nt) veronique25 Mar 2016 #31

transcripts are a lost and end the bleeding or lost and continue bleeding Vote2016 Mar 2016 #32

It's certainly been a huge loss for Sanders. KittyWampus Mar 2016 #41

Ha, how so? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #43

Pretty much the only people who care are already opposing her MineralMan Mar 2016 #46

And you know this how, Oz? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #48

Because the only people asking for them are her detractors, Dorothy. MineralMan Mar 2016 #50

And you know that how, Tin Man? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #59

So, her supporters don't care if she's corrupt or not?? Herman4747 Mar 2016 #57

Frankly, I could probably paraphrase one of those speeches MineralMan Mar 2016 #60

So, Hillary is being highly illogical in hiding a benign speech... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #63

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #49

Is that any way to treat your liberator?!? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #51

Socialism is not "liberation" - it is enslavement MaggieD Mar 2016 #53

Your liberator to spread mayhem on DU whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #67

Transcripts argument is a petulant outcry that is embarrassing towards those making the demand. seabeyond Mar 2016 #58

It is a win situation for her if she releases them and it illustrates there was nothing to hide EndElectoral Mar 2016 #61

Exactly, so every reason to do it whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #70

Her supporters are fine with the corruption so I don't think releasing them would do much harm Doctor_J Mar 2016 #64

Seeing how Sanders has only a technically possible but non-viable route to the nomination Tarc Mar 2016 #66

Right, "I'm winning, so why be transparent?" whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #72

You are soooo right. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #77

It'd be the same for Bernie Tarc Mar 2016 #81

I enjoy watching her opponents twist themselves into knots over them Renew Deal Mar 2016 #76

Apparently, the "abysmal trust and character rating" are what her advisers think of as Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #78

She should release them in exchange for Trump's tax returns Onlooker Mar 2016 #79