The Bernie or Bust blackmail is not going to work.

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192. Sanders platform definitely ignores the last 20 years of neoliberalism, but that means its closer to

what Americans expect from governments because the last 20 years have seen RADICAL right wing changes that the entire country has not been told about yet. And if I enumerate tem in this post you likely wont see it. So do your own research.

>Sanders and his supporters boast of polls showing him, on average, matching up slightly better against Trump than Clinton does. But those matchups are misleading: Opponents have been attacking and defining Clinton for a quarter- century, but nobody has really gone to work yet on demonizing Sanders.

99% of all Americans dont have a clue as to what the Clintons represent and instead view the Clinton years as good for the middle class and high employment bla bla bla.. I did too for most of that time, however at one point I accidentally recorded the first half of a discussion on Pacifica that just didnt fit in, and eventually I realized what they had been discussing was right, and that knowledge informed me as to the real reason of the Clinton cuts n welfare, although it took a few more years for me to really get it, thats when I started realizing we were being fed a bill of goods in a major way.
because what that show was talking about was the facts of what they were doing with GATS. Not the fake cover story.

>Watching Sanders at Monday night’s Democratic presidential forum in Des Moines, I imagined how Trump — or another Republican nominee — would disembowel the relatively unknown Vermonter.

Trump is an idiot but he's doing well precisely because he's seen as an outsider and basically all of America now is aware of what the inside the beltway folks still don't get, we know they are waging war on us now.

The first questioner from the audience asked Sanders to explain why he embraces the “socialist” label and requested that Sanders define it “so that it doesn’t concern the rest of us citizens.”

What the Beltway folks dont get the most is that that label doent have the desired effect of scaring people away because they realize that basically what it means is people first not corporations. People realize that we need progressive taxation and that corporations are getting away with paying no taxes, what they dont know is that a new system has been set up that puts them on top, above politicians. And who set that system up? Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, and the two Bushs and Obama. And we're not going to vote for another one.

>Sanders, explaining that much of what he proposes is happening in Scandinavia and Germany (a concept that itself alarms Americans who don’t want to be like socialized Europe), answered vaguely: “Creating a government that works for all of us, not just a handful of people on the top — that’s my definition of democratic socialism.”

Scandinavians and germans by and large are doing far better than Americans in many ways, at least they arent bankrupted by an illness, or forced out of the job market by a horrible health care system that kills 100,000 people unnecessarily a year.

>But that’s not how Republicans will define socialism — and they’ll have the dictionary on their side. They’ll portray Sanders as one who wants the government to own and control major industries and the means of production and distribution of goods. They’ll say he wants to take away private property. That wouldn’t be fair, but it would be easy. Socialists don’t win national elections in the United States .

Why not? its not like a permanent change. If this country is a democracy, that means we let the people decide who gets to be president every four years. If we cannot do that, if 'democracy" means you just get to choose between Coke and Pepsi, then its not democracy. Sorry. You are just ranting - Personally, I think that what Americans like is a simple kind of private ownership and that we never signed on to "capitalism" as its being crammed down our throats today, why? because thats a system that is concentrating wealth beyond what is right or sensible. There needs to be balance which we are not seeing. Hillary Clinton is not balanced, she is a neoliberal trying to portray herself as flexible who is not. Lets be honest, she is not honest.

>Sanders on Monday night also admitted he would seek massive tax increases — “one of the biggest tax hikes in history,” as moderator Chris Cuomo put it — to expand Medicare to all. Sanders, this time making a comparison with Britain and France, allowed that “hypothetically, you’re going to pay $5,000 more in taxes,” and declared, “W e will raise taxes, yes we will.” He said this would be offset by lower health-insurance premiums and protested that “it’s demagogic to say, oh, you’re paying more in taxes.”

I have news for you, Single payer health care DOES NOT COST MORE it costs a lot less. Anybody who is telling you it costs more is lying. Why? because insurance companies create havok in health and in waste. A key part of single payer is it has to be free to the end user. (thats also a key part of GATS - public services have to be "supplied neither on a commercial basis, nor in competition with one or more service suppliers" or the entire system is set up to privatize them and then soon, globalize them by bidding the work out to the lowest bidder, internationally. So it has to be free for that reason, too. Oh, and it would have had to exist in 1998 when it was signed, but since they didnt tell us about that, I think Sanders is right to ignore it, let the ****** who set up that scheme and hid it be the ones who have to explain it to our country.

Imagine going to the doctor when you get sick. Imaine getng prescriptions filled without worrying about the cost. You simply dont get how important that is to this country.

Most Americans now cant do that. People in every other civilized country can. What that means is our leaders are failures. they have failed this country. they are so wrapped up in their games that they cannot see it. Sorry, it needed to be said.

Well, yes — and Trump is a demagogue.

Sanders also made clear he would be happy to identify Democrats as the party of big government and of wealth redistribution. When Cuomo said Sanders seemed to be saying he would grow government “bigger than ever,” Sanders didn’t quarrel, saying, “People want to criticize me, okay,” and “Fine, if that’s the criticism, I accept it.”

Sanders accepts it, but are Democrats ready to accept ownership of socialism, massive tax increases and a dramatic expansion of government? If so, they will lose.

I think we need to return to the priorities that made this country great and dump the financial manipulators and the shell game players. and I do not see anybody other than Sanders and Warren and people like them as doing it. When Americans see Elizabeth Warren teling the bankers to deliver the information she is seeking, tearing them a new a***** we're seeing government AS ITS SUPPOSED TO WORK. What you seem to want is the big government- as far as being an army for corporations while eliminating all that is good and that helps people about governments.

If i were those making decisions I would drop the deals and step away from the whole scam and admit it was a mistake to try to take over the world's future with cheap tricks. Now.