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2016 Postmortem

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NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
Thu Oct 18, 2012, 10:13 PM Oct 2012

Do the state of the polls (in general) seem just surreal to anyone else? [View all]

I mean, you've got to be kidding me. After four years of constant right wing obstruction - yet, despite that, a real recovery with real improvements in the numbers...then, after the bizarre, someone-needs-to-run mess of the Republican circus called the primaries, the disaster of Mitt European trip (the endless MittShambles), the 47% video - the weekly gaffes, the snoozer of a convention (starring the indescribable rant at a chair), You People, dogs on a car, windows on a plane...and then a high energy Dem convention which pushed the good guys to an overwhelming forecast for victory......

******one 90 minute debate that consisted of the worst debate moderation in history and an unprecedented lie-fest with an admittedly lower energy than optimal president (though with no lies and no gaffes) - think of that - 90 minutes******

And the numbers tank something far less certain - at a rate far too rapid and deep for just that 90 minutes....

followed by an asskicking of Ryan by Biden, and then another asskicking of Mitt by the president.....

And the numbers hardly move from the "nearly tied" zone.

It just makes no sense....surreal is actually way too mild and ineffective a word for it...are there that many Americans with their heads up their ass? So easily fooled?

And this isn't being a concern troll - I still believe president Obama will be reelected...but, really, it should just not, not be this close - that is what is utterly surreal to me.

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The polls seem surreal when Mitt is up. RichGirl Oct 2012 #1
Robme's supporters have also been fed four years of lies which they believe without question LonePirate Oct 2012 #8
My...what an astute observation. jaysunb Oct 2012 #9
I have A LOT of republican friends Cosmocat Oct 2012 #23
I stop bothering a month before the election Warpy Oct 2012 #2
Smart. A lot of it is mental. liberalmuse Oct 2012 #27
Oh, it's surreal to me, too. I feel like I'm on Stupid Planet. And then I realize all over again the Nay Oct 2012 #3
Obama's re-election will go some way to solving it. Mutiny In Heaven Oct 2012 #16
YES! cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #4
The base cratered, the media sealed the narrative Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #5
I am so understanding your OP! I am a bundle of nerves, even though i am canvassing and Ninga Oct 2012 #6
for better or worse, I guess I am letting both my open book and bleeding heart show! NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #7
YES. Either someone is jacking with the numbers ProfessionalLeftist Oct 2012 #10
The supposed "liberal" MSM did this - Horse race - Also, some guys like tough guys DHelix Oct 2012 #11
Great, points all - thanks for this thoughtful response to my OP. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #12
polls suggest Obama leading politicman Oct 2012 #13
Keep in mind "tied" in a national poll means exactly nothing. jeff47 Oct 2012 #14
It isn't the value of the polls on a given day - it is how the rolling average moves over time. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #15
Actually, Nate talks about this today jeff47 Oct 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #17
Yes, things are weird. GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #18
"are there that many Americans with their heads up their ass?" Prophet 451 Oct 2012 #19
It does but quaker bill Oct 2012 #20
The house is a LONG shot Cosmocat Oct 2012 #24
I do not know what you have been reading quaker bill Oct 2012 #29
Believe me Cosmocat Oct 2012 #30
It will be tough for sure quaker bill Oct 2012 #31
i think they had a shot Cosmocat Oct 2012 #33
While there is some correlation quaker bill Oct 2012 #35
yeah Cosmocat Oct 2012 #39
It's just more egregious. bemildred Oct 2012 #21
actually, the state of voter education is surreal wordpix Oct 2012 #25
Worries me in that they can be used as a way to make election theft possible rurallib Oct 2012 #26
really, it should just not, not be this close Flashmann Oct 2012 #28
Intellectually it shouldn't, but i get it Cosmocat Oct 2012 #32
Not really... tallahasseedem Oct 2012 #34
Yes, and so does this entire election season lunatica Oct 2012 #36
I'll let George Carlin explain... RedSpartan Oct 2012 #37
Yes, but buckyblue Oct 2012 #38
My 89 y.o. Mother-in-law Marthe48 Oct 2012 #40
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. Most don't pay any attention to neverforget Oct 2012 #41
Hopefully those are the ones who will stay home. LisaL Oct 2012 #42
head up asses monkeyofstick Oct 2012 #43
FWIW, the correct term is heebie jeebies, unless you are looking to be offensive. uppityperson Oct 2012 #44
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