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Gothmog

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38. Are the Sanders supporters prepared for what the GOP will do to Sanders if he is the nominee?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

According to this article, Sanders has been treated with kid gloves by the Clinton campaign to date. However the GOP will not be as kind to Sanders. This article from VOX has some good predictions as to how nasty the GOP and the Kochs will be http://www.vox.com/2016/2/3/10903404/gop-campaign-against-sanders

I'm not sure I have the requisite killer instinct to fully imagine how the GOP will play a Sanders campaign. But consider just this low-hanging fruit:

Sanders would be the oldest president ever to take office — older than John McCain, who faced serious questions about this in 2008.

Sanders is a socialist. "No, no," you explain, "it's democratic socialist, like in Denmark." I'm sure GOP attack ads will take that distinction into careful consideration.

Sanders explicitly wants to raise taxes, and not only on the rich.

That's just the obvious stuff. And he has barely been hit on any of it so far.

I have no real way of knowing whether Sanders and his advisers appreciate what's coming if he wins the nomination, or whether they have a serious plan to deal with it, something beyond hoping a political revolution will drown it out.

But at least based on my experience, the Bernie legions are not prepared. They seem convinced that the white working class would rally to the flag of democratic socialism. And they are in a state of perpetual umbrage that Sanders isn't receiving the respect he's due, that he's facing even mild attacks from Clinton's camp.

If they are aware that it's been patty-cakes so far, that much, much worse and more vicious attacks are inevitable, and that no one knows how Sanders might perform with a giant political machine working to define him as an unhinged leftist, they hide it well.

In the name of diverting some small percentage of the social media bile surely headed my way, let's be clear about a few things: This is not an argument against supporting Sanders. There's nothing dumber than making political decisions based on how the other side might react. (For one thing, that would have foreclosed supporting Obama, a black urbanite with a funny name, in 2008.)

But it is an argument that Sanders has gaping vulnerabilities that have not yet been exploited at all, so his followers should not yet feel sanguine about his ability to endure conservative attacks. Also they should get a thicker skin, quick.

The GOP will have a great deal of material to work with and the Kochs will be spending $887 million, and the RNC candidate may spend another billion dollars. These groups will have a great deal to work with

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Hypothetical match up polls are worthless and should not be relied for anything Gothmog Mar 2016 #1
538 has been really wrong this election jfern Mar 2016 #3
WOW!!! You rolled all that out in 2 minutes from the OP. Impressive, impressive...indeed! eom Purveyor Mar 2016 #7
With two links even! pugetres Mar 2016 #14
It is sad that these worthless match up polls are the sole support for Sanders claims of electablity Gothmog Mar 2016 #33
Yes anything not 100% positive for Hillary should be ignored... nt revbones Mar 2016 #16
My question to you would be how do YOU think you know who is more viable? Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #23
Match up polling is worthless unless both candidates have been vetted Gothmog Mar 2016 #2
Hillary isn't done being vetted by 100+ FBI agents jfern Mar 2016 #5
And a State Dept internal investigation. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #10
He's vetted. n/t Loudestlib Mar 2016 #12
Are the Sanders supporters prepared for what the GOP will do to Sanders if he is the nominee? Gothmog Mar 2016 #38
What kitchen sink has Hillary not thrown at him yet? Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #34
The Clinton campaign has been treating Sanders with kid gloves Gothmog Mar 2016 #37
Taxes and socialism have been raised. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #42
Read the article Gothmog Mar 2016 #43
Neither I, nor Sanders have complained about it. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #44
On the issue of size of government jcgoldie Mar 2016 #35
National head-to-head polls are of limited value at this point brooklynite Mar 2016 #4
The guy running against the billionaires knows how to run against the billionaire jfern Mar 2016 #8
Correct - anything not 100% positive about Hillary has limited value at this point... revbones Mar 2016 #17
Just as anything by the corporate media has limited value for Bernie... brooklynite Mar 2016 #29
He has raised only $20 million angrychair Mar 2016 #22
Meh ... n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #6
Most electable with mere people but not with oligarchs. nt valerief Mar 2016 #9
well....oligarchs are 1% grasswire Mar 2016 #11
Even with the beating the M$M has served up against Bernie, he wins. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #13
It's incredible, isn't it? If he had HALF the press that Trump gets he would be Lorien Mar 2016 #15
I remember that well! Thanks! I lived in Pikesville (Baltimore) at the time. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #18
Really? You think the repubs won't treat him worse? anotherproletariat Mar 2016 #20
Tell that to these guys pinebox Mar 2016 #31
lol KMOD Mar 2016 #19
more lol... 4nic8em Mar 2016 #21
The Koch brothers thank you. Broward Mar 2016 #27
Wall Street says your welcome... 4nic8em Mar 2016 #28
Why are so many Hillary backers risking a Trump presidency? Broward Mar 2016 #24
How/why are Bernie supporters Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #39
Where do I say that I'm certain? Broward Mar 2016 #40
Your comment more than implies it Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #41
K&R amborin Mar 2016 #25
Hell yeah griffi94 Mar 2016 #26
Anyone who isn't in love with Hillary could have told us that Sky Masterson Mar 2016 #30
Two problems.. DCBob Mar 2016 #32
The electability issue goes solidly to Sanders. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #36
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