2016 Postmortem

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80. And Ted Kennedy? The ultimate in schadenfreude.

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:37 PM

Mar 2016

Again, from January, 2014.

Ted Kennedy (another seven on the hit list) was a different story.

He had slashed Hillary worst of all, delivering a pivotal endorsement speech for Obama just before the Super Tuesday primaries that cast her as yesterday’s news and Obama as the rightful heir to Camelot. He did it in conjunction with a New York Times op-ed by Caroline Kennedy that said much the same thing in less thundering tones. Bill Clinton had pleaded with Kennedy to hold off, but to no avail.

Still, Clinton aides exulted in schadenfreude when their enemies faltered. Years later they would joke about the fates of folks who they felt had betrayed them.

“Bill Richardson: investigated; John Edwards: disgraced by scandal; Chris Dodd: stepped down,” one said to another. “Ted Kennedy,” the aide continued, lowering his voice to a whisper for the punch line, “dead.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/195188-hillarys-hit-list

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TYT: Hillary's "enemies" list [View all] marmar Mar 2016 OP

Thank you. H2O Man Mar 2016 #1

there is an element to this that seems very very.......... bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #2

Nixonian? nt BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #16

+10,000% nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #46

...spurious? Orsino Mar 2016 #60

I used to like Cenk Uygur but i guess now I have to put him on the bad list now. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #3

Can't deny the report, so demonize the messenger. Sounds like Hillary alright. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #4

No i'm Justin, not Hillary. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #6

SOUNDS like Hillary. Words were the key here. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #7

I sound like Hillary? Well i admire her so thanks. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #8

If you like sounding like her... well then ... berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #23

Yes African American lives matter as do their votes. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #24

Yes, she needed their vote and hugged Obama until she got it. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #26

Run with that and watch your candidate lose even more. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #27

Perfect. 840high Mar 2016 #54

you mean under the bus!?!! nooooooo! wendylaroux Mar 2016 #11

Ok i declare prace! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #13

ha! nt wendylaroux Mar 2016 #14

? hootinholler Mar 2016 #35

Please proceed governor! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #36

He has a background just like Hillary, was on the right now is on the left... snooper2 Mar 2016 #65

Her reputation is well known...and not in a good way. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #5

real life House of Cards--the epitomy of crony capitalism. bbgrunt Mar 2016 #9

I suspect there is a virtually identical version of this Excel spreadsheet BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #10

someone should recreate the pay to play list from the news articles available questionseverything Mar 2016 #57

That would probably be a full time job for about 6 months BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #70

I remember reading that the Obama team had a similar board. Politics. Metric System Mar 2016 #12

I assume that while there was a race they did keep track of who supported them and their willingness karynnj Mar 2016 #19

It was a spreadsheet! People "save" spreadsheets all the time. And items on the spreadsheet bettyellen Mar 2016 #59

The problem was not the list. Of course, everyone had lists karynnj Mar 2016 #61

Former employees characterizing the list as something sinister is a fact now? Or gossip? bettyellen Mar 2016 #87

From one of your dreams? closeupready Mar 2016 #29

Yes. This is likely correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #90

Cenk LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #15

LuvLoogie whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #20

I would have handed you a paper bag for that, LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #72

And this explains a lot about why she got many of the jwirr Mar 2016 #17

If it does, there are a lot of easily intimidated superdelegates. HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #94

Hope you are right. jwirr Mar 2016 #96

Average people don't like being threatened. I know every Congress-critter isn't Alan Grayson HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #97

This is why the Congressional endorsements don't really mean crap. djean111 Mar 2016 #18

But she's got a (D) after her name whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #21

Revenge. Ino Mar 2016 #22

If this stuff really is true CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #30

I never thought of that senz Mar 2016 #103

For the Sanders supporters who claim to only see only KMOD Mar 2016 #25

What the fuck ever. It's documented. marmar Mar 2016 #28

Please provide evidence of an alleged victim of KMOD Mar 2016 #33

.... marmar Mar 2016 #40

Hell, no. Cenk is an idiot. KMOD Mar 2016 #45

"No! Because SEXISM!!!!!!!" closeupready Mar 2016 #31

I don't find it funny at all. KMOD Mar 2016 #34

lol closeupready Mar 2016 #42

Well, if there isn't any legitimate rebuttal... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #91

They are ironically The Boys Who Cried Wolf. closeupready Mar 2016 #92

Sexism? Fawke Em Mar 2016 #37

Well, the smear isn't called KMOD Mar 2016 #39

Sexism my ass. The list is real. 840high Mar 2016 #55

"...this whole smear is rooted in sexism." Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #62

Was "lose" a spelling error of "loose"? KMOD Mar 2016 #63

Thanks for pointing out the autocorrect error. Much appreciated. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #68

There are many women sadly who reinforce sexism. KMOD Mar 2016 #69

Sure. I'm not one of them. And don't lie about me. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #74

I think your posts speak for you KMOD Mar 2016 #77

I should hope so. To an _honest_ reader, they say I'm a feminist. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #79

You are just full of insults aren't you? KMOD Mar 2016 #81

When being deliberately slandered? Fucking right I am. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #84

"more than a bit revealing of where your mind goes" - oh yeah. Baseless charges of sexism, closeupready Mar 2016 #93

They are a Faux pas Mar 2016 #32

this kind of crap dana_b Mar 2016 #38

OMG, someone kept a spread sheet of supporters vs non-supporters and "saved it" - it's GOTV. bettyellen Mar 2016 #41

Exactly ^^^^^^ radical noodle Mar 2016 #56

This gotcha stuff is incredibly naive. What ever happened to learning from others before assuming? bettyellen Mar 2016 #58

Yes, and I should hope so too! auntpurl Mar 2016 #66

This is a recurring theme w/ SBS supporters. OMG, the DNC is not registering voters...... bettyellen Mar 2016 #88

yep. Money and the Clinton frenemy list. Thanks for posting. nt antigop Mar 2016 #43

For the third time, people here (who don't remember) think I was making it up closeupready Mar 2016 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Mar 2016 #51

That is really above-and-beyond vindictiveness. closeupready Mar 2016 #53

Kick closeupready Mar 2016 #47

Dolores Umbridge anyone? I think they are the same person. n/t Avalux Mar 2016 #48

and this November or January the party frog will lie dying wondering why it MisterP Mar 2016 #49

How Nixonian. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #50

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #64

There's also THIS, from January, 2014 -- senz Mar 2016 #67

Here's what happened to Claire McCaskill: senz Mar 2016 #71

K&R liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #73

John Lewis was on the list too. senz Mar 2016 #75

Rep Jim Clyburn describes in a 2014 memoir how Bill Clinton came after him TheDormouse Mar 2016 #76

Oh, please...... Beacool Mar 2016 #78

And Ted Kennedy? The ultimate in schadenfreude. senz Mar 2016 #80

A lot of B.S. from Parnes and Allen's book. Beacool Mar 2016 #82

Haters gotta hate farleftlib Mar 2016 #85

Yup, and on that level, it gets scary. senz Mar 2016 #98

liberals ibegurpard Mar 2016 #83

Claire McCaskill admitted her fear and aversion for Hillary - but she came round for 2016. senz Mar 2016 #86

Honor Sen. Warren's courage as the sole female Democratic senator not to endorse Hill. senz Mar 2016 #89

Unrelated question: When do the Young Turks drop the "young" part CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #95

The name refers those in a party or movment who promote reform or rebellion. senz Mar 2016 #99

It would be a hoot if someone found this list & fucked with it BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #100

LOL! I like the way your mind works, Buelah. senz Mar 2016 #101

. BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #102

So she's Hillary Bush Nixon now... John Poet Mar 2016 #104

This comes from a fascinating article, highly recommend it. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #105

How does anybody know this? moondust Mar 2016 #106

I think it's from this article... Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #107

Thanks for the link. n/t moondust Mar 2016 #108