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Motown_Johnny

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49. I disagree with her being the most qualified or experienced or knowledgeable candidate.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 03:50 PM
Mar 2016

In 2008 she tried running on the fact that she was First Lady. Doing so she incorrectly claimed to have contributed to the peace treaty in Ireland. When called out on this she responded with some nonsense about there not being tea served on that runway in Bosnia that she landed on. Then it evolved into the airplane making evasive maneuvers before landing and then eventually she claimed, over and over again for several weeks, that she had run from the airplane to a vehicle because of snipers. All of that was bull shit. If her being First Lady was applicable experience for being President, she would not have needed to concoct such ridiculous lies in order to claim that it was. It wasn't.


She was in the Senate for ~8 years. Yes, she won 2 elections in her entire life. Both for her carpetbagged Senate seat in a deep blue state with huge media markets. Most any well funded (D) could have won those elections. Her time in the Senate was unremarkable, at best. No major legislative accomplishments and some horrible errors including her vote for W.'s Bankruptcy Bill and her 19 minute speech convincing others to vote to go to war in Iraq. Plus her misplaced vote on that subject. Simply spending 8 years in that seat does not make her qualified. Her time there just reinforces how poor her judgment is.

She was then Sec. of State for ~4 years. We have not elected a former Sec. of State to the Presidency since Buchanan and he is viewed as one of the worst in history. I agree that she did an acceptable job in that position. Unfortunately has people like Henry Kissinger as role models. She may be knowledgeable on foreign policy but her judgment still sucks. Try to name one military conflict that she has not supported. Good luck with that. You may as well be supporting John McCain based on foreign policy. There is very little difference.


You can make unqualified claims all you want. That does not make them true. You should consider the possibility that she will be a terrible President. The long list of horrible mistakes she has made should at least raise that possibility. What happens when the first woman President turns out to be a really bad one? Won't history record that too?


Nominating her would be a mistake.






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Well, no. Hillary Clinton is running for HER first term. auntpurl Mar 2016 #1
BS, he is taking over already, she can't control him tularetom Mar 2016 #8
You seem very angry. auntpurl Mar 2016 #9
Why do you say they are 'angry'? Trajan Mar 2016 #46
Actually, he's running around campaigning for her. MineralMan Mar 2016 #30
It's not necessarily sexist of they are a team Armstead Mar 2016 #83
You just can't give a woman the respect she deserves can you? upaloopa Mar 2016 #2
+1 KMOD Mar 2016 #22
I do have the utmost respect for women. Seeinghope Mar 2016 #40
Sexism is when you take the most qualified candidate in the election and accuse others of PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #44
That is your opinion. I have heard COUNTLESS women want her to win because it is "TIME" Seeinghope Mar 2016 #71
Well you eclipsed yourself upaloopa Mar 2016 #58
Hillary Clinton was a superstar KMOD Mar 2016 #68
merely having a superstar husband treestar Mar 2016 #72
+1 Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #57
I recall all his administration (that I voted for twice) being referred to as the "co presidency". bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #3
No NWCorona Mar 2016 #4
His roll is usually 4. MineralMan Mar 2016 #32
You got me NWCorona Mar 2016 #33
I just couldn't resist. MineralMan Mar 2016 #36
No worries 😀 NWCorona Mar 2016 #42
This is an IMPORTANT QUESTION BEING IGNORED! Seeinghope Mar 2016 #43
What a sexist and misogynistic thread. WOW, I don't like these Sanders people at all. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #5
What are you talking about? "these Sanders people" understand all the games that used to work. bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #13
Why is it sexist of they advertise themselves as a team of equals? Armstead Mar 2016 #84
She's a very accomplished woman in her own right. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #85
Sorry, I'll remember not to invite you to my next barbecue Armstead Mar 2016 #86
Don't be silly. That's not humanly possible expect in science fiction. kydo Mar 2016 #6
HRC told US about the VRWC years ago kydo. So what are you talking about? n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #14
So you ask if a woman can really do anything that's no for her husband's benefit? Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #7
I don't generally alert on things... auntpurl Mar 2016 #11
Has the courage of your convictions failed you again, auntpur re: alerts? What is "what this is"? bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #23
1. I actually have no idea what you're talking about. auntpurl Mar 2016 #24
Read it through... bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #29
I see both the rational and those who rationalize. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #69
She's running for Reagans 10th term. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #10
Well done! nt BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #52
Short but sweet Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #55
Ding! We have a winner.[n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #59
BULLSEYE!!!!! n/t Nedsdag Mar 2016 #81
Impeachment and all? =P Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #12
She's running for Reagan's tenth term. PeteSelman Mar 2016 #15
^^THIS^^ CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #51
She doesn't appear to know what she's running for ibegurpard Mar 2016 #16
This thread is full of sexist crap leftofcool Mar 2016 #17
Your concern about a woman being able to do her job has been noted. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #18
Yes--Obama is still kryptonite for the general election so she's trying to run as Bill-3rd term TheDormouse Mar 2016 #19
A former president's spouse of either sex marions ghost Mar 2016 #20
Bill's, Barack's, W's, H.W."s, Reagan's.. she doesn't care as long as she gets elected. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #21
. KMOD Mar 2016 #26
I disagree with her being the most qualified or experienced or knowledgeable candidate. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #49
Hillary Clinton did not run for President in 2008 KMOD Mar 2016 #56
Your alert results: Juicy_Bellows Mar 2016 #25
Des to Hill-tremists: Please give it a rest. desmiller Mar 2016 #54
There was a second alert and jury bananas Mar 2016 #61
Those are different alerts - yours is for this thread - the one above was for a different thread by PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #62
Ok, thanks. nt bananas Mar 2016 #63
I can understand the confusion. Both threads are very similar in certain ways. yardwork Mar 2016 #67
Uh, no. MineralMan Mar 2016 #27
The question is inherently misogynist, implying that a female president cannot be... Tarc Mar 2016 #28
Do you think Bill was "sufficiently separate and independent" of Hillary when he was prez? jonno99 Mar 2016 #41
The "co-president" thing was silly media innuendo, not fact. Tarc Mar 2016 #45
Of course you're right. But that doesn't change anything I said. jonno99 Mar 2016 #48
Reagan had early alzheimers so yes, that made Nancy somewhat more powerful. zappaman Mar 2016 #87
You may be correct, but that is not what I've heard. nt jonno99 Mar 2016 #89
Wouldn't they all be, including Nancy Reagan? treestar Mar 2016 #73
This is the Bernie Brothiest thread I've ever seen ... nt salinsky Mar 2016 #31
lol @ Bernie Brothiest PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #34
Seriously. nt auntpurl Mar 2016 #47
BernieBroth; the boiled-down concentrated quintessence Codeine Mar 2016 #70
Well, because she'll always be "The little woman?" MineralMan Mar 2016 #35
A woman can't be her own person? RandySF Mar 2016 #37
I'd expect a Clinton Admin to operate very much like an Obama Admin. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #38
Hillary Clinton is running for her own term, on her own terms kennetha Mar 2016 #39
You could take Hillary Clinton out and substitute it with Bernie Sanders and all would still be true Seeinghope Mar 2016 #78
Bill is ineffectual greymouse Mar 2016 #50
It's worse than that. n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #53
+1 n/t bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #90
There are no limitations restrictions or guidelines because there don't need to be any onenote Mar 2016 #60
There have been past President of the United States family that almost both Seeinghope Mar 2016 #80
And if Hillary got elected and then died in office would "co-President" Bill still be "President" onenote Mar 2016 #82
I still don't see how having an extremely competent married couple, MoonRiver Mar 2016 #92
Sounds like grounds to impeach another Clinton. I'm sure republicans would have thought of this pampango Mar 2016 #64
Another conspiracy theory? Wow so many today nt Sheepshank Mar 2016 #65
No loyalsister Mar 2016 #66
The assumption is that the first 2 were all Bill? 😐 AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #74
Is Bernie Sanders running for Jane Sanders' first term? KingFlorez Mar 2016 #75
Oh, I didn't know that Bernie Sanders was a previous President of the United States Seeinghope Mar 2016 #77
My point was that candidate's are individuals KingFlorez Mar 2016 #79
There is no mechanism in place to prevent her from office LanternWaste Mar 2016 #76
No. She is running for her first term. gollygee Mar 2016 #88
I think you're right, and I can prove it. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #91
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