2016 Postmortem

yardwork

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42. Bernie was not a conscientious objector and it is false to say that he was.

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 07:13 PM

Mar 2016

Honestly.

That status was very difficult to obtain.

Bernie was like most other college students of his time. He didn't want to be drafted. Totally understandable. However, he was not granted conscientious objector status.

I knew a genuine conscientious objector. There's no need to exaggerate in this way.

I suggest self-delete.

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Bernie was a concientous objector [View all] lancer78 Mar 2016 OP

Nope, and it's an absurd question. arcane1 Mar 2016 #1

Agree. it might qualify him to be COC, though. Hortensis Mar 2016 #31

As a veteran, it matters to me, that someone running for Commander in Chief politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2016 #53

As a veteran tazkcmo Mar 2016 #68

Ditto. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #73

Tritto. n/t Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #77

Another Veteran here that isn't bothered by it either HDSam Mar 2016 #78

Were you bothered by Bill Clinton's rather convoluted means of escaping the draft? Fumesucker Mar 2016 #81

Vietnam was a disgrace, and he was right to oppose it. It was nobody's "turn" to commit crimes. arcane1 Mar 2016 #88

the vietnam-era vet agrees 100% DrDan Mar 2016 #97

The Government does not have the right to define the conscience of the People. stone space Mar 2016 #98

it's extremely unlikely Bernie will be calling up your kids to war if he is President greymouse Mar 2016 #99

It makes him uniquely qualified. CanadaexPat Mar 2016 #2

Yes, we will be able to trust him not to go to war unless it is jwirr Mar 2016 #43

Fuck no whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #3

No. NV Whino Mar 2016 #4

Not only no, but hell no! hobbit709 Mar 2016 #5

You're joking, right? elleng Mar 2016 #6

Sorry lancer78 Mar 2016 #8

I did not intend to correct your spelling, lancer, elleng Mar 2016 #19

Good thing, too! Wilms Mar 2016 #7

what was Bill Clinton's excuse? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #9

One more thing he would have to explain in the GE redstateblues Mar 2016 #10

have they used it against Trump? nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #12

Well at least Hillary's attempt to join the Marines will count in her favor, huh? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #32

Yeah tazkcmo Mar 2016 #75

Exactly how? HDSam Mar 2016 #87

It's just something that would give ammunition to the Rs redstateblues Mar 2016 #103

On what grounds? NCTraveler Mar 2016 #11

That was unfortunate NWCorona Mar 2016 #20

Thanks for the link. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #30

Quite the opposite. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13

As a former service member NWCorona Mar 2016 #14

No, but it could hurt him politically nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #15

Kudos to Bernie! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #16

Hillary was a Republcan. floriduck Mar 2016 #17

Hillary protested the war just like Bernie (who never got conscientious ... frazzled Mar 2016 #23

There is no lie in my statement. floriduck Mar 2016 #29

She still basically is. pangaia Mar 2016 #25

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2016 #84

Quite the opposite. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #18

Well said. elleng Mar 2016 #21

:) AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #33

True. Wild-ass invasions signify weakness of mind and soul. senz Mar 2016 #40

I'm not aware that he recieved that status, he says that he requested it which braddy Mar 2016 #22

Makes him more qualified, not less. Maedhros Mar 2016 #24

Thank you for replies lancer78 Mar 2016 #26

Not even then. No Afghani ever tried to take away my freedom of speech n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #34

Did you try a search of DU? I am sure this subject has been posted on here before. merrily Mar 2016 #27

If that was the standard for posting here, there would be a lot fewer OPs. onenote Mar 2016 #39

Sanders,and every other male college student,was protected from sufrommich Mar 2016 #28

Bernie came from a very poor home. Unlike Hillary. senz Mar 2016 #41

I didn't say he didn't. I said the draftees were mostly the sufrommich Mar 2016 #47

Bernie did not get a college deferment. senz Mar 2016 #49

Don't attribute shit to what I said that isn't there.He was eligible for a sufrommich Mar 2016 #59

Just responding to how your worded your comment. senz Mar 2016 #67

No, but it will be part of the right wing attacks on him - OhZone Mar 2016 #35

No it won't HDSam Mar 2016 #89

No, it won't because Bernie won't win the nomination, but Trump - OhZone Mar 2016 #94

As a vet I wonder workinclasszero Mar 2016 #36

There's this noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #60

Did you mean consciencetious? cosmicone Mar 2016 #37

Wrong. He applied for CO status but didn't receive it. senz Mar 2016 #38

Bernie was not a conscientious objector and it is false to say that he was. yardwork Mar 2016 #42

Imagine the eye rolling at the highest levels of the Pentagon. oasis Mar 2016 #44

This is just one of the reasons why republicans wanted Bernie to win the democratic nomination. workinclasszero Mar 2016 #45

His status was the same as Bill Clinton's: Student. Vinca Mar 2016 #46

Actually, Bernie didn't have a student deferment. senz Mar 2016 #51

I am a Hillary supporter and this subject would not make a difference to me. fun n serious Mar 2016 #64

And Dick Cheney... Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #52

I don't think any of the current candidates have served in the military. Vinca Mar 2016 #61

No, none have HDSam Mar 2016 #90

I don't fault anyone for not serving in Vietnam, even Trump. Vinca Mar 2016 #96

I've no problemswith CO, not sure voters in the GE share my sentiments. oasis Mar 2016 #70

I did a lot of eye rolling when I was in. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #65

Those with the scrambled eggs on their hats and fruit salad on their chests oasis Mar 2016 #71

They probably won't be backing Hillary either. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #85

Pentagon greymouse Mar 2016 #100

Who cares? I don't think anyone should worship at the feet of the military. alarimer Mar 2016 #101

Meh. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #48

I would say it qualifies him greymouse Mar 2016 #50

No. That's a stupid question. Codeine Mar 2016 #54

Is being a CO a bad thing, now? stone space Mar 2016 #55

Absolutely not... Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #62

make sure you all register reddread Mar 2016 #56

No. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #57

I spent 15 months madokie Mar 2016 #58

There are many of us that felt the same way OutNow Mar 2016 #92

No. No more than than not being a doctor disqualifies someone from running hospital. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #63

No Third Doctor Mar 2016 #66

Disqualify? No, not at all. Dem2 Mar 2016 #69

Dick Cheney and the chickenhawks tried the same thing, without... Armstead Mar 2016 #72

It would have hurt him badly in the GE. (If you're busy explainin' ... you're losin'.) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #74

Knowing his stance on issues over the past decades, no I don't think it disqualifies him. ladyVet Mar 2016 #76

He's been consistent in his philosophy all his life. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #79

Nope. Now, how about Hillary's 6 years on the Walmart board of directors? jfern Mar 2016 #80

Good, bad, or indifferent, what's the 1960s alternative? thesquanderer Mar 2016 #82

No. daleanime Mar 2016 #83

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2016 #86

I know some older people who are bothered by this gollygee Mar 2016 #91

far as I know, we haven't had a president who served in that war rurallib Mar 2016 #93

Hillary tried to enlist in the marines Doctor_J Mar 2016 #95

Tell your HS Facebook buddies what JFK said about conscientious objectors like Bernie Sanders. Octafish Mar 2016 #102