2016 Postmortem

1StrongBlackMan

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178. "Intent" has a specific judicial meaning and it is not what you would have it mean ...

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:34 PM

Mar 2016

here.

A better way to express what you are seeing is, going forward with discovery might provide evidence for whether, and if not, why the FOIA attempts were not fully responded to. Neither has been established.

And, again, do you really think the DoJ didn't consider, and discard that theory of the case?

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Am I the last to know? RW Judicial Watch will get to depose IT specialist Bryan Pagliano in April. [View all] snagglepuss Mar 2016 OP

Intersting timing and questions. Autumn Mar 2016 #1

WOW grasswire Mar 2016 #3

No. He did not. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #14

He has immunity. 840high Mar 2016 #66

It's darling that you think that JW is the feds. Or that immunity msanthrope Mar 2016 #71

I don't think cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #88

then perhaps you can explain to other posters how immunity in a federal investigation msanthrope Mar 2016 #97

It would be as pertinent as his 5th Amendment Right Press Virginia Mar 2016 #118

He has immunity in a Federal Criminal investigation. msanthrope Mar 2016 #128

The immunity deal would cover him in the civil deposition Press Virginia Mar 2016 #136

What? no. Have you seen said deal? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #152

dont need to. The scope of the suit isn't as broad as the FBI investigation Press Virginia Mar 2016 #165

That reply makes no sense. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #168

broad vs narrow is confusing? Press Virginia Mar 2016 #171

Your conflation of this civil lawsuit and an FBI investigation just makes no sense. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #175

I didn't conflate anything Press Virginia Mar 2016 #177

Okay ... You took a different tact ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #154

Oh, see, that's where you are nicer than me. I've given up pointing out facts. msanthrope Mar 2016 #155

Could you kindly give up the hysterical term...evil. libdem4life Mar 2016 #158

Do you normally tell women they are being "hysterical?" nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #159

How would I know you're a woman? I use it for both genders. libdem4life Mar 2016 #162

It's in my username. And, I am offended that you used that msanthrope Mar 2016 #164

User name?? Well, I am sorry you were offended. Ii am offended by people libdem4life Mar 2016 #170

Why do people keep calling folks tone deaf? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #163

I've given up pointing out facts, as well ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #161

Yeah.....Eric Holder is the devil for not putting all of Wall Street msanthrope Mar 2016 #167

What this does is bring the issue of whether the private server was set up to avoid FOIA out into snagglepuss Mar 2016 #109

a rightwing website pimping a rightwing lawsuit with geek tragedy Mar 2016 #2

If Bernie were under investigation and oath.. grasswire Mar 2016 #5

HRC is neither. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #12

Must be Judicial Watch appreciation day. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #7

that's every day amongst a certain contingent here. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #9

Sad but telling. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #11

but not surprising nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #15

That's all fine and good NWCorona Mar 2016 #39

That's not how litigation works. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #41

Huh? NWCorona Mar 2016 #48

this is a civil suit over evading FOIA, not mishandling classified information. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #54

I know this NWCorona Mar 2016 #58

I am not a RW operative. I do not like ANY govt official evading FOIA. nt IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #90

you're assuming she evaded FOIA. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #94

Given the State Dept has none of her emails as they went thru a private server it snagglepuss Mar 2016 #117

The True Believers will never find fault with the Anointed One Press Virginia Mar 2016 #125

The state department has none of her emails? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #134

They had to request them because of a lawsuit Press Virginia Mar 2016 #141

they had the vast majority of her emails before geek tragedy Mar 2016 #142

Untrue Press Virginia Mar 2016 #144

okay, if you say so nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #145

The state department said so Press Virginia Mar 2016 #146

and then got reamed by the OIG report geek tragedy Mar 2016 #151

This is lawsuit about FOIA. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #67

And how does that change my point? NWCorona Mar 2016 #91

What is your point? There are no depositions scheduled. msanthrope Mar 2016 #95

So your point now is there isn't anything scheduled? NWCorona Mar 2016 #102

Dude....not only is nothing scheduled, JW hasn't even secured the right to depose msanthrope Mar 2016 #106

Uh ... No! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #166

Care to explain? NWCorona Mar 2016 #169

No liable/not liable has been determined ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #172

I have please see my post #91 NWCorona Mar 2016 #173

"Intent" has a specific judicial meaning and it is not what you would have it mean ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #178

I get what you are saying NWCorona Mar 2016 #179

The meaning is the sam 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #180

Could be NWCorona Mar 2016 #181

with an enthusiastic cheering section in Sanders supporters of RW witch hunts! Bill USA Mar 2016 #46

the enemy of their enemy is their friend. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #50

I'm sorry you lost your alert privileges for 24 hours. Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #47

Regardless of your opinion, it's going to land some body blows on the weak candidate that she is. revbones Mar 2016 #55

hey, you and Paul Sperry can hold out hope that it will. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #57

Sure. revbones Mar 2016 #61

she has been wounded by it, yet is blowing Bernie out nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #63

She hasn't been wounded yet. revbones Mar 2016 #65

lol, keep hope alive nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #76

Are you hoping she's wounded later or something? nt revbones Mar 2016 #80

all of this email bullshit has already factored in, it will be old news geek tragedy Mar 2016 #82

keep telling yourself that. revbones Mar 2016 #86

I plan to be here rooting for the Democrat to win. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #87

Since he was given immunity, he can't plead the 5th. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #4

Um, no. That is completely incorrect. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #6

Wrong. He gives up the right to plead the 5th. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #16

Um, no. That is completely incorrect. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #18

Only in your dreams. Nt HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #25

No....In my practice. I think it's darling that you think JW is the feds. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #26

I learned early in life never argue with a lawyer on the law. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #28

Hey there! I got reinstated! and you're right don't argue law msanthrope Mar 2016 #32

Glad you were reinstated. I was last week. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #35

Yeah...I got 4 hides in one day.....I took Gravedancing msanthrope Mar 2016 #37

I got 7. All deserved of course. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #40

I just had too much chardonnay. Je ne regrette rien...nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #42

Well we are absolved by Skinner. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #44

Yes....the mighty OZ has spoken. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #45

I didn't say JW was the Feds, you appear to have a comprehension problem. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #98

What judge ruled? there's no deposition scheduled. msanthrope Mar 2016 #100

Judge Sullivan, the Clinton appointee. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #116

No.....he didn't rule that BP could be deposed. That's why msanthrope Mar 2016 #126

Correct. 840high Mar 2016 #72

By the same author: "Can America Survive Obama's Pro-Muslim Bias?" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #8

Holy shit it can't get anymore RW than that garbage. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #69

some people have no shame, none nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #75

I just posted on another OP where the only source is Fox. giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #78

by the same author: "Violent Inmates Part Of Obama’s Federally Sponsored Prison Break" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #10

By the same author: "Meanwhile, An Islamic Fifth Column Builds Inside America" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #13

By the same author: ‘Black Lives Matter’ Crowd Resists Truth About Resisting Arrest" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #17

By the same author: "Why Is Obama Importing Muslims Who Mutilate Little Girls?" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #19

by the same author: "Muslim Immigration Poses Serious National Security Threat" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #20

By the same author: "IRS Gave Black Nonprofits Preferential Treatment" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #21

Very interesting farleftlib Mar 2016 #22

Holy buckets. Hillary Clinton must be flop sweating CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #23

Judicial Watch has been trying to sue the clintons since the nineties. msanthrope Mar 2016 #29

I don't care who they are. It doesn't matter if Ranger Rick is spearheading this CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #73

Oh dear...perhaps you can explain to me just how msanthrope Mar 2016 #77

It is my understanding CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #103

No. No. And no, they have no deposition scheduled. msanthrope Mar 2016 #104

lol, keep hope alive nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #30

lol, you trying so hard. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #70

I have no hope either way. I would like to see a period at the end of this sentence CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #79

lol, sure you don't. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #85

That link you posted makes me uncomfortable...it's an invasion of privacy. Punkingal Mar 2016 #130

it's publicly viewable for every member. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #131

I still think it's creepy. And I don't want to see yours, either. Punkingal Mar 2016 #160

What's that supposed to mean? CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #182

Earth Shattering indeed. I bet Fox is having a party. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #33

in case people want to know why I stopped supporting Sanders, his supporters geek tragedy Mar 2016 #36

I know how you feel. On twitter had to block several of them because they would not let up. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #38

Yeah. revbones Mar 2016 #56

you are free to believe Paul Sperry, the Daily Caller, Charlie Gasparino, Joseph DiGenova, geek tragedy Mar 2016 #60

No, you'll just believe that revbones Mar 2016 #64

she screwed up in using private email for government business. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #81

"paid a high political price for it." rofl revbones Mar 2016 #83

You and Paul Sperry will just have to keep hope alive for your cause nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #93

Your little posts are too cute. revbones Mar 2016 #111

get back to us when your prayers to the Indictment Fairy include geek tragedy Mar 2016 #112

Nice. revbones Mar 2016 #122

open to facts, yes, your crowd isn't providing facts though nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #123

Sure. revbones Mar 2016 #124

I didn't start a thread out of whole cloth. This article is from Investor's Business Daily. CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #89

"Investors Business Daily is reputable" NO, it is NOT reputable. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #99

I've worked with reporters at Investor's Business Daily CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #120

the rightwing editorials are by the author of the piece quoted in the OP. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #127

So, is this Paul Sperry making up the information in the article? CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #133

Pagliano "singing like a bird" is likely wingnut fantasia. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #135

Yeah that was a stupid qoute that leaped right NWCorona Mar 2016 #137

+1 nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #139

That reasoning was already used ad nauseum months ago. Karma13612 Mar 2016 #119

Over Judicial Watch??? Beacool Mar 2016 #138

Meet the definition of ratfucking. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #24

June 7th can't get here fast enough. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #27

I'm going to back away from this place until after the primaries. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #31

I could add to what you're saying but will not. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #34

I thought Klayman was in charge of Judicial Watch. I wonder what happened. asjr Mar 2016 #43

Kick and Recommend just because... kristopher Mar 2016 #49

hey, having Bernie people line up behind a rancid rightwing bigot's propaganda geek tragedy Mar 2016 #52

So the rancid RW site is lying and the deposition isn't going to happen? kristopher Mar 2016 #62

Here is a suggestion to Bernie fans: read what wingnut propagandists geek tragedy Mar 2016 #74

There is no deposition scheduled. And notoriously anti-gay JW msanthrope Mar 2016 #84

Somebody's spamming the fuck out of this thread Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #51

Right? n/t kdmorris Mar 2016 #53

Still spamming away Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #59

Amnesty? NWCorona Mar 2016 #92

Some of us were on timeouts. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #107

Well even tho I sometimes disagree with you NWCorona Mar 2016 #108

Ah...I was only gone for a couple days. But my hides were msanthrope Mar 2016 #110

No problem! NWCorona Mar 2016 #113

Hey there! nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #105

But it's such a nice variety: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #114

Eww Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #156

Yet another day in which I cannot distinguish between DU and FR. LonePirate Mar 2016 #68

+1 obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #157

Well if we nominate Bernie, it won't even matter. senz Mar 2016 #96

It's great seeing Clinton STILL STANDING despite deseprate attacks by Sanders' & Trumps' supporters. Hoyt Mar 2016 #101

Isn't this site something else? Beacool Mar 2016 #140

Sure seems like it at times. Hoyt Mar 2016 #143

Clinton STILL STANDING AlbertCat Mar 2016 #148

MSM has given Sanders plenty of exposure. Maybe rather than running against Democrats in the past, Hoyt Mar 2016 #150

MSM has given Sanders plenty of exposure. AlbertCat Mar 2016 #153

If people wanted to see Sanders, he'd have been on even more. Hoyt Mar 2016 #176

Well I would love to know if this interview in April will be before or AFTER Karma13612 Mar 2016 #115

The likelihood of it happening in April would be remote IMHO NWCorona Mar 2016 #129

ohhh, OK. So, we're Karma13612 Mar 2016 #147

almost certainly after not only NY but also PA and MD, nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #132

The Revolution is highly invested in its serendipitous proxy war. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #121

It doesn't matter who reported it.... AlbertCat Mar 2016 #149

K&R Bernie better be our nominee! amborin Mar 2016 #174