2016 Postmortem

rurallib

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93. far as I know, we haven't had a president who served in that war

Tue Mar 22, 2016, 08:42 PM

Mar 2016

those who were eligible all found a way out.
At least with Bernie he stood up for something. He didn't just game the system.

I have less problems with someone who does not look to the gun as the first solution to any problem than I do with those who were cultured in fighting at first insult.
I believe history shows us that the founders feared a standing army for many reasons. One reason that if one has an army, one looks for fights.

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Bernie was a concientous objector [View all] lancer78 Mar 2016 OP

Nope, and it's an absurd question. arcane1 Mar 2016 #1

Agree. it might qualify him to be COC, though. Hortensis Mar 2016 #31

As a veteran, it matters to me, that someone running for Commander in Chief politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2016 #53

As a veteran tazkcmo Mar 2016 #68

Ditto. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #73

Tritto. n/t Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #77

Another Veteran here that isn't bothered by it either HDSam Mar 2016 #78

Were you bothered by Bill Clinton's rather convoluted means of escaping the draft? Fumesucker Mar 2016 #81

Vietnam was a disgrace, and he was right to oppose it. It was nobody's "turn" to commit crimes. arcane1 Mar 2016 #88

the vietnam-era vet agrees 100% DrDan Mar 2016 #97

The Government does not have the right to define the conscience of the People. stone space Mar 2016 #98

it's extremely unlikely Bernie will be calling up your kids to war if he is President greymouse Mar 2016 #99

It makes him uniquely qualified. CanadaexPat Mar 2016 #2

Yes, we will be able to trust him not to go to war unless it is jwirr Mar 2016 #43

Fuck no whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #3

No. NV Whino Mar 2016 #4

Not only no, but hell no! hobbit709 Mar 2016 #5

You're joking, right? elleng Mar 2016 #6

Sorry lancer78 Mar 2016 #8

I did not intend to correct your spelling, lancer, elleng Mar 2016 #19

Good thing, too! Wilms Mar 2016 #7

what was Bill Clinton's excuse? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #9

One more thing he would have to explain in the GE redstateblues Mar 2016 #10

have they used it against Trump? nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #12

Well at least Hillary's attempt to join the Marines will count in her favor, huh? cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #32

Yeah tazkcmo Mar 2016 #75

Exactly how? HDSam Mar 2016 #87

It's just something that would give ammunition to the Rs redstateblues Mar 2016 #103

On what grounds? NCTraveler Mar 2016 #11

That was unfortunate NWCorona Mar 2016 #20

Thanks for the link. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #30

Quite the opposite. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #13

As a former service member NWCorona Mar 2016 #14

No, but it could hurt him politically nt firebrand80 Mar 2016 #15

Kudos to Bernie! Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #16

Hillary was a Republcan. floriduck Mar 2016 #17

Hillary protested the war just like Bernie (who never got conscientious ... frazzled Mar 2016 #23

There is no lie in my statement. floriduck Mar 2016 #29

She still basically is. pangaia Mar 2016 #25

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2016 #84

Quite the opposite. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #18

Well said. elleng Mar 2016 #21

:) AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #33

True. Wild-ass invasions signify weakness of mind and soul. senz Mar 2016 #40

I'm not aware that he recieved that status, he says that he requested it which braddy Mar 2016 #22

Makes him more qualified, not less. Maedhros Mar 2016 #24

Thank you for replies lancer78 Mar 2016 #26

Not even then. No Afghani ever tried to take away my freedom of speech n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #34

Did you try a search of DU? I am sure this subject has been posted on here before. merrily Mar 2016 #27

If that was the standard for posting here, there would be a lot fewer OPs. onenote Mar 2016 #39

Sanders,and every other male college student,was protected from sufrommich Mar 2016 #28

Bernie came from a very poor home. Unlike Hillary. senz Mar 2016 #41

I didn't say he didn't. I said the draftees were mostly the sufrommich Mar 2016 #47

Bernie did not get a college deferment. senz Mar 2016 #49

Don't attribute shit to what I said that isn't there.He was eligible for a sufrommich Mar 2016 #59

Just responding to how your worded your comment. senz Mar 2016 #67

No, but it will be part of the right wing attacks on him - OhZone Mar 2016 #35

No it won't HDSam Mar 2016 #89

No, it won't because Bernie won't win the nomination, but Trump - OhZone Mar 2016 #94

As a vet I wonder workinclasszero Mar 2016 #36

There's this noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #60

Did you mean consciencetious? cosmicone Mar 2016 #37

Wrong. He applied for CO status but didn't receive it. senz Mar 2016 #38

Bernie was not a conscientious objector and it is false to say that he was. yardwork Mar 2016 #42

Imagine the eye rolling at the highest levels of the Pentagon. oasis Mar 2016 #44

This is just one of the reasons why republicans wanted Bernie to win the democratic nomination. workinclasszero Mar 2016 #45

His status was the same as Bill Clinton's: Student. Vinca Mar 2016 #46

Actually, Bernie didn't have a student deferment. senz Mar 2016 #51

I am a Hillary supporter and this subject would not make a difference to me. fun n serious Mar 2016 #64

And Dick Cheney... Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #52

I don't think any of the current candidates have served in the military. Vinca Mar 2016 #61

No, none have HDSam Mar 2016 #90

I don't fault anyone for not serving in Vietnam, even Trump. Vinca Mar 2016 #96

I've no problemswith CO, not sure voters in the GE share my sentiments. oasis Mar 2016 #70

I did a lot of eye rolling when I was in. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #65

Those with the scrambled eggs on their hats and fruit salad on their chests oasis Mar 2016 #71

They probably won't be backing Hillary either. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #85

Pentagon greymouse Mar 2016 #100

Who cares? I don't think anyone should worship at the feet of the military. alarimer Mar 2016 #101

Meh. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #48

I would say it qualifies him greymouse Mar 2016 #50

No. That's a stupid question. Codeine Mar 2016 #54

Is being a CO a bad thing, now? stone space Mar 2016 #55

Absolutely not... Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #62

make sure you all register reddread Mar 2016 #56

No. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #57

I spent 15 months madokie Mar 2016 #58

There are many of us that felt the same way OutNow Mar 2016 #92

No. No more than than not being a doctor disqualifies someone from running hospital. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #63

No Third Doctor Mar 2016 #66

Disqualify? No, not at all. Dem2 Mar 2016 #69

Dick Cheney and the chickenhawks tried the same thing, without... Armstead Mar 2016 #72

It would have hurt him badly in the GE. (If you're busy explainin' ... you're losin'.) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #74

Knowing his stance on issues over the past decades, no I don't think it disqualifies him. ladyVet Mar 2016 #76

He's been consistent in his philosophy all his life. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #79

Nope. Now, how about Hillary's 6 years on the Walmart board of directors? jfern Mar 2016 #80

Good, bad, or indifferent, what's the 1960s alternative? thesquanderer Mar 2016 #82

No. daleanime Mar 2016 #83

+1 BeanMusical Mar 2016 #86

I know some older people who are bothered by this gollygee Mar 2016 #91

far as I know, we haven't had a president who served in that war rurallib Mar 2016 #93

Hillary tried to enlist in the marines Doctor_J Mar 2016 #95

Tell your HS Facebook buddies what JFK said about conscientious objectors like Bernie Sanders. Octafish Mar 2016 #102