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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How the Democratic Party Establishment Suffocates Progressive Change [View all]Atmosk
(9 posts)48. It might have to
The reason there are sometimes generational divides is due to how one comes to see the world as they mature. It is simply a fact that they way young people see the world right now is fundamentally different then the way older Americans do. Those people who grew up in the 60's, 70's, 80's knew a very different America then the one I grew up with. To them America is the same place as it was all those years ago, as time goes on and one moment casually interspersed into the next the differences merge into the back ground, small outbursts here and there, but in the end its all just fades into white noise.
Not only will they not help solve the problem, they don't even understand that a problem exists. To many what is actually happening this year is baffling. Some seem to think that this year is some weird el nino type event, that the stars just happened to align some certain way and after its over it'll never happen again, rather then face the fact things are like this for a reason and ignoring it will only make it that much worse. No argument no matter how eloquent or explicit can convince them to shift their perspectives. We don't admit defeat, but we can't take the ground today.
Looking at all the information points to an eventual end to the 40+ year long era that has brought the nation to its knees. Many factors have coalesced to support the rise of a massive extremely liberal cohort, which will put the nation back on its feat again. It'll be a huge effort, we'll need to correct the mistakes of past generations and pay off their debts. The statistics say we aren't buying homes or cars like earlier generations, that we aren't getting married or having kids because we can't afford to, that we won't make as much money or live as long or be as happy as our parents were, but its ok. Its going to be us who saves the dying oceans, its going to be us who pay back the 20 trillion debt, its going to be us who fight the rampant social and economic injustices pervading our society, its going to be us who overthrow the oligarchs who have perverted the law and silenced the will of the people. We will do this, because if we don't nothing but ashes and ruins will remain.
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How the Democratic Party Establishment Suffocates Progressive Change [View all]
Ferd Berfel
Mar 2016
OP
"I'm a registered Democrat and a Rockefeller Republican ... where that will get me, I'm not sure yet
think
Mar 2016
#2
The Third Way/DLC "Play" Is To Persuade Rank And File To FOCUS on Social Rather Than Economic
CorporatistNation
Mar 2016
#23
The current Democratic Party is a big tent with the right-centrists being the bullies
AZ Progressive
Mar 2016
#3
Clinton is as progressive as Nixon. No I take that back she isn't as progressive as Nixon.
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#11
The two are running on remarkably similar platforms, and voted the same 90+% of the time.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#14
Her "grasp" on foreign has cost thousands of lives. I gave you a list of issues where they
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#16
So let's talk about her "pay-offs". Do you deny that she has taken money from banksters for her
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#50
You're accusing her of bribery with zero evidence. You're also conflating individual campaign
DanTex
Mar 2016
#51
I didn't say it doesn't exist anywhere, I said there's not a trace of evidence that it exists
DanTex
Mar 2016
#59
As soon as you say that stating she accepts payoffs from banksters DQ's you ... you are DQ'd.
Scuba
Mar 2016
#52
Nice try. I don't hate her, I hate those that put corporate profits ahead of the lives
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#69
It's mostly false, at best misleading. At this point I'm used to it from the fringe left.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#39
They won't be able to stop it for much longer. The "centrists" will be dead from old age, soon. (nt)
w4rma
Mar 2016
#5
No. I promise that I'll never support someone like Clinton in any primary election, anywhere. (nt)
w4rma
Mar 2016
#10
But they can only loot our resources so much. Then what does capitalism have in store for them?
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#13
You know how you get progressive change? You join the party and work at the lowest level and build
upaloopa
Mar 2016
#28
why don't you write me a long rambling critique and if I have some time maybe I'll read it.
upaloopa
Mar 2016
#42
Like Hillary, the establisment has a lot of "experience"...at protecting the establishment.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2016
#72