2016 Postmortem

bigtree

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66. so, basically, his form of campaigning doesn't allow for support of other Democrats

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:04 AM

Mar 2016

...it's 'let me get mine,' and then we'll see about helping you get yours (with conditions).

You should realize that he's in a world of his own if he believes this is an effective way to advance his agenda. The first consideration should be the dearth of but a handful of legislators who have expressed support for his campaign. It would behoove him to avail his political effort of new, emerging legislators who might share his agenda. It would also stand to reason that he's going to need the support of most of the Democrats he's railing against as 'establishment' evil.

Where does a losing presidential candidate go to collect on his success in organizing a hopeful, but losing movement of voters? Hopefully, to throw his chips in with the rest of us in the correct and vital effort to defeat the republican nominee.

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Railed against the Dem party for years, neglects to contribute to down ticket races [View all] bigtree Mar 2016 OP

Because if he runs as an independent... Blanks Mar 2016 #1

You got the BoBs threatening to do that anyway. baldguy Mar 2016 #35

Thought you all were big on math. dogman Mar 2016 #2

k bigtree Mar 2016 #4

Might want to reword that header revbones Mar 2016 #3

no...OP had it right...go look up the quotes n/t Sheepshank Mar 2016 #68

By doing something for the downticket races revbones Mar 2016 #72

you can look down thread for verification of Bernie's $0 contributions to down ticket Sheepshank Mar 2016 #75

tl;dr: Bernie hasn't made any bribes... nt revbones Mar 2016 #78

now you are just changing the direction of your snipe. Uselessness abounds. n/t Sheepshank Mar 2016 #79

Not really. You're talking about him not making bribes to super delegates revbones Mar 2016 #101

Votes with Dems more then most Dems vote with Dems. Wilms Mar 2016 #5

Nice! nt revbones Mar 2016 #6

THIS. vintx Mar 2016 #70

Tell me again why you're posting on this board. HERVEPA Mar 2016 #7

To push the party as far to the right as possible, while demanding that we all just accept that. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #34

sinking lower Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #8

" neglects to contribute to down ticket races" ebayfool Mar 2016 #9

that's from 2013 bigtree Mar 2016 #10

It sez "Last updated: 03/24/2016" - that's what I'm going by. ebayfool Mar 2016 #13

Oh please- you saw Open Secrets said 1.75 million went to states from mid Sept- Dec '15 from bettyellen Mar 2016 #14

Hang on - I'm still answering you elsewhere. I don't type as fast and furious as you. n/t ebayfool Mar 2016 #17

HA okay, fair enough. bettyellen Mar 2016 #18

so...you gonna edit or delete your incorrect post? n/t Sheepshank Mar 2016 #69

Nope. I don't hide the evidence when I'm wrong. It's more educational when the post is left ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #99

That website seems to have very little new information- despite saying it is updated daily? bettyellen Mar 2016 #19

Thats pretty easy for her to do because she doesn't need the money. phleshdef Mar 2016 #22

it's smart for her to do, because she needs a stronger party if she is going to get anything done. bettyellen Mar 2016 #25

I've not crowned her anything. You are prejudging me. You know nothing of my position on Clinton. phleshdef Mar 2016 #26

Fair enough, the whole issue is sort of like a snake eating it's tail. The "it takes money" issue bettyellen Mar 2016 #27

She is the Queen of Corporatism because the crown fits & many like the way it looks: marions ghost Mar 2016 #100

Well it is ironic that Bernie would benefit if he won the primary then, isn't it? bettyellen Mar 2016 #106

Does Bernie get a personal kickback? marions ghost Mar 2016 #107

If you consider money spent on campaigns all kickback, I think so. bettyellen Mar 2016 #109

Yes ironic that he has to get elected marions ghost Mar 2016 #110

I've always been pretty cynical, and think Bernie is great. At the same time, a lot of what he has bettyellen Mar 2016 #111

Things can happen quickly sometimes marions ghost Mar 2016 #112

so the answer is that Sanders is doing nothing to help elect Democratic legislators bigtree Mar 2016 #31

You understand it perfectly. But you'd rather pretend you don't so you can antagonize. phleshdef Mar 2016 #98

Perhaps this will give you some better information . Loki Mar 2016 #11

TY for the link. It does go into excellent detail @ this subject! Prolly not the intended ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #12

An additional 1.75 million went to local states parties. Does the DNC spend much locally? bettyellen Mar 2016 #16

They try to put money into races that are truly viable. Loki Mar 2016 #20

thanks, I'm curious to know now the biggest differences between DNC spending and state party's.... bettyellen Mar 2016 #24

How many "Sanders Democrats" SheenaR Mar 2016 #23

You don't deserve an answer with that kind of attitude. Loki Mar 2016 #28

Second time you have mentioned that SheenaR Mar 2016 #45

You act like your the only person who has ever done anything for local and state Dems. Loki Mar 2016 #61

Then answer the poster's question for me. Kittycat Mar 2016 #55

Yes from Big Ticket Donors...Helping to spread the corruption Armstead Mar 2016 #51

Been there, done that... got the t-shirt. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #15

#1 most liberal voting Senator SheenaR Mar 2016 #21

You've only been here since 2016 Loki Mar 2016 #29

Tell us what Senator Clinton accomplished? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #30

You had better hope that I was your ICU nurse. Loki Mar 2016 #39

So another words you have nothing. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #46

You can look up her accomplishments if you want Loki Mar 2016 #47

What a display of withering intellect I see! Suddenly, I'm attacking nurses everywhere! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #49

Wow you even looked up your own personality disorder. Loki Mar 2016 #85

Well you cetainly don't "Loki". Keep trying. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #87

She helped get that war on in the Middle East - huge accomplishment for her and her neocon buddies. Broward Mar 2016 #56

centrism is never the best course of action. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #33

"The only thing in the middle of the road is yellow stripes and dead armadillos"-Jim Hightower hobbit709 Mar 2016 #38

Do I get to comment? angrychair Mar 2016 #81

I don't go to a new board and post obnoxious comments to people who have Loki Mar 2016 #82

Again, the attitude angrychair Mar 2016 #90

While that poster was here at the computer typing anonymously SheenaR Mar 2016 #91

You arrive and have done nothing but snark and belittle with every response. Sheepshank Mar 2016 #73

Lol SheenaR Mar 2016 #92

Sanders is the one who said it would be hypocritical of him to run mythology Mar 2016 #88

I do not support his previous comments about the Party SheenaR Mar 2016 #93

To fight for the people. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #32

K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #36

I've railed against some "Democrats" for years too. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #37

Never ate his brussels sprouts as a child, wet the bed until age 7, refused to help Vinca Mar 2016 #40

I knew he was a monster! A would-be farmer! God, that makes me livid! randome Mar 2016 #41

The whine is strong in bigtree! Logical Mar 2016 #42

In VT he's running as an Independent ucrdem Mar 2016 #43

He's running as as a democrat for the money and sufrommich Mar 2016 #44

Wish we had known that from the beginning. Loki Mar 2016 #48

Hillary is not a democrat. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #52

Helped turn the Dems into the Corporate Wall St. Party, dislikes "liberal" Armstead Mar 2016 #50

Pro-fracking, the death penalty, NAFTA, TPP, etc. Broward Mar 2016 #53

Sanders should sue, and he shouldn't give money down ticket. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #54

which candidates is Sanders donating to? bigtree Mar 2016 #59

Hopefully progressive ones. Loudestlib Mar 2016 #62

name one. bigtree Mar 2016 #64

One idea? Loudestlib Mar 2016 #65

no. Name ONE progressive candidate he's contributing to in any way. bigtree Mar 2016 #67

Did you miss the part where I said "hopefully, and if he doesn't?" Loudestlib Mar 2016 #74

Victory funds... DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #57

Bigtree, failing to give credit to Bernie Sanders for voting with Dems for all these years and being Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #58

it's as if he's already running an independent campaign bigtree Mar 2016 #63

You are just being arrogant. You should be extremely thankful he didn't run as an Independent. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #71

who are you to label me privileged? Talk about 'arrogant' bigtree Mar 2016 #89

You can claim anything you want but all I can really judge is what you write. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #95

you came back at me? bigtree Mar 2016 #96

Did I not kowtow enough? Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #97

Ya, he used what he wanted, said what he needed to say and tossed the party aside. n/t Sheepshank Mar 2016 #77

He is not running as an Independent, thus you are spreading falsehoods. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #84

Yep, it's all about the Big D for some. Many could care less about the policies. Broward Mar 2016 #76

Not buying it! peace13 Mar 2016 #60

so, basically, his form of campaigning doesn't allow for support of other Democrats bigtree Mar 2016 #66

If Democrats don't ask for his help, then don't blame Bernie Larkspur Mar 2016 #80

Sanders and others who've railed on and on about progressive ideals in this campaign bigtree Mar 2016 #86

Yet the Democratic Party bosses are glad Bernie caucuses with them Larkspur Mar 2016 #108

And yet he expects his followers to believe that Super Delegates will change their votes... Walk away Mar 2016 #83

Enormous K & R. Thanks for posting. Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #94

Bernie will clean up the Democratic party, unlike Hillary who depends on the way it is. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #102

Because he IS one Politicalboi Mar 2016 #103

And yet Dems allowed him to run as one pinebox Mar 2016 #104

Appropriation of the platform and triangulation can be effective tactics. LanternWaste Mar 2016 #105

Is it even legal for Sanders to give money raised by his campaign to other campaigns? ky_dem Mar 2016 #113

I will tell you jpb33 Mar 2016 #114