2016 Postmortem

karynnj

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230. I have a problem with your embedded statement that Bernie interrupts Hillary

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:35 AM

Mar 2016

In fact, the most pointed to example by the Clinton supporters, actually has Bernie refusing to let HRC interrupt him when the moderator gave him time to respond. The fact was in that debate, HRC routinely spoke over both Bernie and the moderator (Anderson Cooper), ignoring the moderator's attempts to moderate. Bernie, in general, follows debate rules -- until it is clear that SHE is not doing so. HRC has used the fact that, as a woman, she is not seen as being aggressive when in fact, she is.

Your link does not even seem to go to anything involving Bernie Sanders - it is yesterday's News broadcast. However - having not seen what you refer to, Woodruff, is a reporter and like many reporters want to control an interview and to limit the time for responses. Had HRC done the same, you would be here posting that HRC won't let a reporter "put her in her place".

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Apparently Hillary isn't the only person the Bernie aggressively interrupts ... [View all] NurseJackie Mar 2016 OP

Ya gotta give is SOMETHING! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #1

Bernie is a class act, its been a very long time since we've had a Presidential candidate Baobab Mar 2016 #38

He sure is a real person but he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer either MinnieBlum Mar 2016 #94

So much for honesty. daleanime Mar 2016 #101

Yep! pandr32 Mar 2016 #206

He has shown much better judgment than the ones you name and is the best candidate for the 99 fourcents Mar 2016 #207

Assessing intelligence of anyone who reached the levels all three have is subjective karynnj Mar 2016 #231

I don't consider 8 years a very long time.. one_voice Mar 2016 #159

LOL wilt the stilt Mar 2016 #184

"Most thin-skinned campaign in history" whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #172

It was a perfectly reasonable discussion, elleng Mar 2016 #2

Oh no! We better support the pro-fracking, corporatist warhawk then. Broward Mar 2016 #3

Lets see: JaneyVee Mar 2016 #7

Let's see: you're supporting a right winger. Broward Mar 2016 #9

You mean the candidate ranked 9th most liberal senator is a rightwinger? JaneyVee Mar 2016 #11

When was she ranked 9th? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12

When she was in the Senate. riversedge Mar 2016 #176

She wasn't 9th but nice try! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #177

Shreds my credibility in the eyes of a right winger? I'm ok with that. Broward Mar 2016 #13

This. I am so damn tired of the illusion of a "peace" Pres. That is not what his votes show. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #18

Really? What wars did he vote for? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #21

lol. That is sad BMUS. seabeyond Mar 2016 #22

When people can't back up their bullshit memes about Bernie? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #24

mmmm, when people define their comments for particular results, I do not bother. seabeyond Mar 2016 #25

Why? It should make it easier for you to clarify your statement. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #26

It simply doesn't matter anymore. The man lost. seabeyond Mar 2016 #28

The truth always matters. Like the fact that Hillary hasn't won yet. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #32

My point is the denial of truth. Arguing it is the point of doesn't matter, since he has lost. seabeyond Mar 2016 #34

Your post is a denial of truth, no one has lost before a winner has been declared. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #35

Nu uh. An yu hu. Clinton has won. Sanders cannot reach the numbers to win, so he has lost. seabeyond Mar 2016 #37

Word salad. Care to post a link to a source saying she's already won the nomination? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #42

This is not a pacifist. seabeyond Mar 2016 #36

Straw man, no one called him a pacifist. You should know better than to pull that crap beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #40

LOl. Not a strawman, Not digging. Dry and simple.... seabeyond Mar 2016 #46

Of course it's a strawman, you found "proof" that he wasn't a pacifist when no one made that claim. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #47

Of course it is not a strawman. seabeyond Mar 2016 #48

Let's check the defintion, shall we? What is a straw man argument? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #50

Sigh... we aren't done yet?.... seabeyond Mar 2016 #52

When are you going to address what I actually posted? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #53

You expected me to actually read it? seabeyond Mar 2016 #57

I had hoped that someone who made such outrageous claims would make an honest effort to back them up beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #60

See, you always stop me immediately from reading further. I posted his votes. Nothing outrageous. seabeyond Mar 2016 #62

You posted nothing but "proof" of your strawman, remember? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #66

I know. It is just performance art bravenak Mar 2016 #54

Speaking of performances, are you here to post more vile hate speech against Bernie? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #55

Not gracious, not gracious at all. Bravenak gave a heartfelt apology. And look what you do. seabeyond Mar 2016 #59

When you want to attack someone's credibility it's best you check your own first. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #64

No really, BMUS.... I am done even playing with you. That was beyond, acceptable. seabeyond Mar 2016 #67

I don't play so you were done before you started. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #70

Funny how you never have shit to say about racism against blacks. bravenak Mar 2016 #77

No one here is targeting you because you're a minority, you're getting called on your own bigotry. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #81

Who is contacting my relations BMUS? bravenak Mar 2016 #84

How would I know? Perhaps you should ask the people you claim posted your name. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #87

I need to know who did it first before I ask to ban anyone bravenak Mar 2016 #90

You said someone posted your name, surely you must know which posters did that. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #92

You saw it bravenak Mar 2016 #95

I saw that someone posted your name? If I had I would have alerted. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #97

I sent it to skinner bravenak Mar 2016 #98

And the person wasn't banned? I find that hard to believe. Prove it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #100

Oh really? bravenak Mar 2016 #104

No I didn't, where are the links? Unless your full name is bravenak I saw no such thing. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #106

Every comment that links to KOS has my full fucking name bravenak Mar 2016 #108

So no one here actually posted your name, I didn't think so. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #111

That is posting my damn info bravenak Mar 2016 #113

No it's actually not, linking to other sites is not the same thing as posting personal information. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #115

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #118

Maybe you should ask the people at the other website since you said they have access to it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #120

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #121

I never saw anyone link to personal information. Alert on them. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #126

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Mar 2016 #128

Noone has to list their name in their profile BMUS riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #166

Now that's interesting. Her stories keep changing, it's bizarre. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #168

Being a victim helps deflect from the anti-semitism. riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #169

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #173

It's so transparent melman Mar 2016 #174

The way she's complaining Live Bait Mar 2016 #235

I post at Kos and you dont have put your own name in your profile. Mine isn't riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #165

Exactly. i looked around at Kos a bit last night, and couldn't find ANYONE else there who gave their kath Mar 2016 #171

Here's a sample profile. Chitown Kev posts here and is prominent at Kos riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #175

Okay, so some do, but it's not the majority. So Bravenak lied when she said it was required there. kath Mar 2016 #179

Yup. I posted Kev's profile to support my assertion riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #181

Put it out there melman Mar 2016 #183

Oh geez, ok. And now she's trying to say BMUS did it riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #185

Bwahaha! - looks like she posted that here at right around the same time she was busted over kath Mar 2016 #199

YOU posted links to your blog there twice yourself and also had others polly7 Mar 2016 #222

THIS. kath Mar 2016 #229

It is not about my post. This is just harassment and targeted bullying. bravenak Mar 2016 #68

Only about harassment and bullying, you are right. Nt. seabeyond Mar 2016 #72

No, she didn't skepticscott Mar 2016 #211

This message was self-deleted by its author bravenak Mar 2016 #61

All BMUS is about is upsetting you. There is no other purpose here. You gave a sincere apology. seabeyond Mar 2016 #65

You are right bravenak Mar 2016 #69

Boy you got that right. Like pretending to support a candidate and admitting you don't. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #74

I do not have to fucking like the person I vote for bravenak Mar 2016 #79

No, BMUS is responding to ugly accusations and lies. polly7 Mar 2016 #223

I have no idea what you're going on about and it's irrelevant since I never posted your name. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #73

Who is it that is contacting my family about du? You seem to know every damn thing so tell me. bravenak Mar 2016 #80

Again I have no idea what you're going on about, perhaps you should take it up with the authorities. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #83

I have contacted authorities, BMUS. bravenak Mar 2016 #85

Sure you can tell them that a person named beam me up scottie posted a link once on DU. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #88

Yeah right bravenak Mar 2016 #91

By "alot" you're referring to knowing what you posted at Front Page Mag. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93

I do not lie about my wrongs bravenak Mar 2016 #96

Who posted your name and info? When and where did this happen? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #99

It is allowed bravenak Mar 2016 #102

No it's really not, post the links and I'll alert on them. I'll even pm Skinner myself. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #103

My journal has my apology thread bravenak Mar 2016 #105

I read the thread, no one posted your name. If I'm wrong post the links and I'll apologize. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #107

Every comment tht links to kos has my full fucking info because kos does not allow fake bravenak Mar 2016 #109

So no one posted your name and information here, good to know. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #112

You CANNOT DELETE YOUR INFO bravenak Mar 2016 #114

Linking to other websites is not posting your information. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #117

If i link directly to your name and info, that's fine with you? bravenak Mar 2016 #119

Sure, go ahead. And I have no idea who's contacting your "people". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #124

Let me know when you figure it out bravenak Mar 2016 #130

If someone is contacting your people it's absolutely wrong. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #131

Even linking to my info is a violation of our rules here bravenak Mar 2016 #137

You said they posted your full name over and over: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #141

Posting to my account iINFO at another site is a violation BMUS bravenak Mar 2016 #145

I re-read that thread, no one posted your account info or even a link to it either. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #146

I just went back and re-read that thread, no one linked to your personal information either. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #144

They got MY FULL info from folks posting to shit from dkos bravenak Mar 2016 #147

So no one posted your full name or account info or even linked to your info. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #148

You are WRONG. Read the fucking TOS. JTFrog Mar 2016 #123

She said they posted her full name over and over again but that never happened. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #134

Actually it is in the TOS. JTFrog Mar 2016 #138

No one posted her name or linked to her info at another website. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #140

Well if you think someone lied you should alert admin. JTFrog Mar 2016 #142

Others can read the post for themselves. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Mar 2016 #132

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #125

Didn't I say it was against the rules to post personal information? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #127

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Mar 2016 #129

She is the only person who has ever posted her name here AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #232

Thats just not true @ Kos and profiles. You had to have deliberately put your name in riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #167

Yes. You do post there. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #214

So the fuck what?? nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #224

Continuing to post this brer cat Mar 2016 #155

Except she came into the thread to harass me. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #170

What a crock. brer cat Mar 2016 #213

+ a million. Like people can't read the damn thread and see who responded to who!!! Number23 Mar 2016 #220

This is one of the creepiest Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #225

And it's been going on ever since bravenak changed her mind about Sanders Number23 Mar 2016 #234

Some people's definition of a "heartfelt apology" differs considerably from that of others. kath Mar 2016 #227

Another response to the apology that NAILED it is this one kath Mar 2016 #228

Creepy stalking. fun n serious Mar 2016 #189

Did you really Google someone else's name? Why? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #190

That is not how I read the comment. fun n serious Mar 2016 #192

How did I get that link? She posted a thread about it. More than one actually. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #193

She posted it here? fun n serious Mar 2016 #194

She posted those vile comments at a right wing hate site and fstdt added them to their list. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #195

I did not see hate speech. You're reaching. fun n serious Mar 2016 #201

It doesn't matter if YOU can't see the anti-Semitism, her comments made the fstdt list for a reason. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #204

Antisemitism and other bigotry is made up of perceptions Violet_Crumble Mar 2016 #221

This message was self-deleted by its author karynnj Mar 2016 #233

Bravenak posted the link herself to her real name. riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #198

Twice! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #200

Twice?! Even more hilarious. kath Mar 2016 #202

SMH. And she has the gall to try to blame you!! riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #203

Thank you. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #205

You know what they say... opiate69 Mar 2016 #209

LOL! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #210

Lol. Hey woman... good seeing you. Always. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #58

Hey, Lady! Glad this primary is over!nt bravenak Mar 2016 #63

Done... I am off to watch a show. Enough of this drama BMUS brings us. Nt seabeyond Mar 2016 #71

Fuck the haters, sea. JTFrog Mar 2016 #135

damn straight.... seabeyond Mar 2016 #139

Excellent rebuttal! vintx Mar 2016 #75

Thanks! But as you can see it's a wasted effort. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #78

Really? The truth matters? LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #216

You sure know how to get a rise out of folks!! hehe nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #180

and on and on and on and on it goes..... seabeyond Mar 2016 #212

Leave bravenak alone! Have never seen such nastiness! Am heading out to get ECT treatments so kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2016 #236

Wait wut? "more war"? "Bernie introduced climate bills that only further regulated fracking" Only? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #19

More war? Do tell... revbones Mar 2016 #29

Hillary's husband is the single human being most associated with Baobab Mar 2016 #39

Lets see... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #45

Yeah, millennials weren't even born or out of diapers but their parents reaped the benefits. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #182

I didn't realize Hillary Clinton is a stand in for Bill's third term. n/t Matt_R Mar 2016 #218

So once the war Hillary voted for started dflprincess Mar 2016 #110

Damn those pesky facts again workinclasszero Mar 2016 #122

You should put facts in scare quotes when you reference it like that. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #156

Please give me an example of Bernie angstlessk Mar 2016 #4

Shhh....doesn't work that way....It's OK for the Hillster to interrupt... Raster Mar 2016 #5

Seriously? Right! Seeinghope Mar 2016 #6

Must. Not. Question. Meme. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #8

She had nothing to say. She just wanted him to stop talking. GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #30

Hillary is the picture of arrogance sometimes. Baobab Mar 2016 #41

That was after he had interrupted her many times earlier and in other debates. pnwmom Mar 2016 #151

He has no answer on most issues except his pet wall street-oligarch-bankster territory cosmicone Mar 2016 #10

You have to admit that in your sadoldgirl Mar 2016 #14

we all know bernie has won all the primaries...except where hillary cheated or GOT MORE votes nt msongs Mar 2016 #15

I would not say 'cheated', but irregularities...HELL YES angstlessk Mar 2016 #16

He has plenty of answers outside of the straitjacket of a campaign Armstead Mar 2016 #20

Hmmm, someone pointing out the problems (Bernie) revbones Mar 2016 #31

I bet the last time Hillary cooked anything for anybody was decades ago. Baobab Mar 2016 #43

For someone with a terrible message timmymoff Mar 2016 #49

Accusing people in that broad brush way of fraud treestar Mar 2016 #82

Never thought I'd see the day when people identifying themselves as progressive and Democrats, Loki Mar 2016 #217

LOFL!!! I come here to laugh... sigh uponit7771 Mar 2016 #89

Jeeze you think that was out of line? You need a hanky for your delicate sensibilities. Armstead Mar 2016 #17

Just re watched the interview voteearlyvoteoften Mar 2016 #23

Whats happened to Judy Woodruff? Baobab Mar 2016 #44

PBS Joins biased media! darts89199 Mar 2016 #133

Bernie made a comment about the PBS interview while he was talking to Cenk Karma13612 Mar 2016 #27

I'm getting real tired of the ankle biting 'round here. Ellipsis Mar 2016 #33

LOL! I said that one day and you wouldn't believe the flurry of ... ebayfool Mar 2016 #136

Hillary is the only one 840high Mar 2016 #51

LOL, ok. nt Logical Mar 2016 #56

why so scared? AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #76

Apparently, Bernie isn't the only one rudely interrupted by sHillary... AzDar Mar 2016 #86

He did something very similar when he was in North Minneapolis BainsBane Mar 2016 #116

She interrupted him, ffs, during a debate with time limits. He reminded her he had been speaking merrily Mar 2016 #149

Jackie.. I love you for posting this.. Cha Mar 2016 #150

troll bait... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #157

Not to mention saying things about their Puglover Mar 2016 #187

Great job by Bernie. Gave Judy's bullshit right back to her. Bernie rocks! ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #152

Nobody likes you. zigby Mar 2016 #153

Grow the fuck up if your going to post here. Ellipsis Mar 2016 #208

Complaining about bad manners is the liberals' version of the GOP's penis measuring contests Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #154

more troll bait from HRC supporters... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #158

LOL! Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #160

yep... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #163

Look at you! Bobbie Jo Mar 2016 #164

"...the Bernie..."? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #161

Thanks for the video Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #162

Doesn't have the temperment to be President. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #178

Agreed. (That's a polite way to say it.) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #188

let's hear it for aggressive interruption AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #186

Hillary has interrupted UglyGreed Mar 2016 #191

The attempts to smear Bernie get more foolish and boring as the days pass. Vinca Mar 2016 #196

Bernie mentioned this on the Young Turks Enrique Mar 2016 #197

He fumbled that, badly. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #215

K & R SunSeeker Mar 2016 #219

I'm surprised at Judy Woodruff. thucythucy Mar 2016 #226

I have a problem with your embedded statement that Bernie interrupts Hillary karynnj Mar 2016 #230