2016 Postmortem

SHRED

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80. Profundity

Reply to Califonz (Reply #54)

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:31 PM

Mar 2016

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We finally have Presidential candidate... [View all] SHRED Mar 2016 OP

A lot of Hillary supporters are already financially comfortable. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #1

I am set pretty well myself however... SHRED Mar 2016 #4

I am SO totally in agreement with you. lostnfound Mar 2016 #7

It's great that you can look outside yourself. Some with money can't do that. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #9

Same here. I make out whomever is in office. Some want TPP to bolster their 401Ks before retirement. TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #85

Deep SHRED Mar 2016 #86

I'm also doing well ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #108

Yep WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #73

The OVER-40 crowd stuck the Millenials with a $17T credit card debt, expensing 30 years of bills. nt TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #84

There is no "over 40 crowd" SHRED Mar 2016 #88

I'm over-40, we've all benefited by placing debt onto the Federal Deficit, even Millenials. TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #91

amazing, is it not? yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #2

Remarkable indeed Jennylynn Mar 2016 #3

Many voters are just uninformed or misinformed. Broward Mar 2016 #5

My dear sister and her wife... SHRED Mar 2016 #6

Condescending Bullshit. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress redstateblues Mar 2016 #58

Hillary's about as liberal as Richard Nixon was. Broward Mar 2016 #61

Is it possible Nixon was to the left of Hillary on a few things? N/t tokenlib Mar 2016 #69

Yes, I actually should've said that she's to the right of Nixon. Broward Mar 2016 #71

So anyone who disagrees with you is uninformed or misinformed? AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #99

Not anyone, but many yes. Broward Mar 2016 #100

Translation: why doesn't the rest of the country see things exactly the way I do? brooklynite Mar 2016 #8

Exactly. NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #11

Here is how I see Hillary Clinton. PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #30

There is no excuse for that. it is fatal flaw in someone asking to be granted a leadership role. Agony Mar 2016 #72

Good gawd. Makes me want to puke. rateyes Mar 2016 #77

Nope SHRED Mar 2016 #13

Sorry, you lost me at "objective"... brooklynite Mar 2016 #20

One word trips you up SHRED Mar 2016 #22

What objective measure says different from what he said? revbones Mar 2016 #75

Thank you, dear sister_rosa_refried Mar 2016 #70

Translation: after over two decades New Dems are facing a rebellion. N/t tokenlib Mar 2016 #74

Why are you not commenting on how I see Hillary Clinton? nt PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #78

Maybe they only heard half of the lies she has told so far. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #10

They don't want to hear, they don't want to know. That is the problem. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #28

She sounds like a Democrat to me . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #46

It is remarkable. The power structure gets internalized, I guess. Vattel Mar 2016 #12

Beltway group think internalized by people "out here." pat_k Mar 2016 #15

Nice post pat k. Thanks for the insight. Vattel Mar 2016 #16

Yep SHRED Mar 2016 #19

Thanks! beltanefauve Mar 2016 #113

People tend to be realistic. They know we live in a representative government. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #14

Yes, keep compromising ever rightward. That's why today's center is yesterday's right. Broward Mar 2016 #17

"Sanders wants to take from others" SHRED Mar 2016 #18

Oh O.K., good luck trying to convince the elected representatives of those folks that you only are Trust Buster Mar 2016 #23

Are you defending low tax rates on the wealthy? SHRED Mar 2016 #25

No, I understand the political reality. The Republicans will not hear of it. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #29

Pitchforks time!!!! highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #31

You would need 60 votes in the Senate. We currently have 46. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #38

I am not interested in weak tea. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #94

Well let's not upset the Republicans fer god sake SHRED Mar 2016 #35

Do we have 60 votes in the Senate ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #40

It's not 2017 yet. The election hasn't happened yet. SHRED Mar 2016 #45

We're not going to have 60 votes in the Senate in 2017 or control of the House. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #50

Are you from the future? DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #103

Thank you. I follow this stuff pretty closely. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #105

Geez, poll after poll shows a majority of BOTH Democrats and Repubiclans BillZBubb Mar 2016 #32

Senate votes are the votes that matter. We don't have 60. We only have 46. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #43

Hogwash. You "no we can't" types are pathetic. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #55

The Koch brothers are spending huge money at the state level. In my state of Ohio, Trust Buster Mar 2016 #68

Of course you'll be satisfied with that, you support the "no we can't" candidate. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #81

Which tells us something about Hillary supporters. senz Mar 2016 #59

That's right loyalsister Mar 2016 #95

And there are some who want to keep the re-distribution of wealth flowing upwards to the 1% bvar22 Mar 2016 #27

But you would have to find 60 votes in the Senate to end a filibuster. Currently, we have 46. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #33

Defeatism is for losers SHRED Mar 2016 #39

Numbers don't lie. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #47

So you already know what the Senate makeup will be? SHRED Mar 2016 #51

Take a look at the Cook Report. The numbers don't lie. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #53

So is it more compromise with Repubs you're after? SHRED Mar 2016 #57

It's not a matter of what I'm after. A President's power is limited to his Party's power in Congress Trust Buster Mar 2016 #62

A crucial part of Bernie's campaign is citizen involvement. Gregorian Mar 2016 #65

You don't start with a 74 year old nominee and then build grassroots. It's the other way around. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #98

The Democrats HAD a large majority in the HOuse, bvar22 Mar 2016 #112

You know there are ways to support your preferred candidate . . . Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #21

A standard rebuttal when facts are too uncomfortable SHRED Mar 2016 #24

Thanks for proving my point! Bleacher Creature Mar 2016 #36

There is no other way to explain it. If you find that insulting that is on you. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #41

We the people who have more votes for Hillary is the Democratically who will be making Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #26

It's almost as if people voted against their own self-interest. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #34

And they defend it right here on this thread SHRED Mar 2016 #42

Yes, you're only supposed to say that about Republicans apparently. Broward Mar 2016 #44

Let the bird decide. longship Mar 2016 #37

The audacity Bluestar Mar 2016 #48

I know WillyT got banned for this but he was on to something when he said "x" which I cannot repeat Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #49

Yep. The hard truth that racism is still alive and well redstateblues Mar 2016 #60

True, but the insinuation has been overused to point of abuse Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #76

Not just racism is alive and well, bvar22 Mar 2016 #97

...or isnt a haven for overt racist bullshit coming from the same folk who hate Obama to the core? uponit7771 Mar 2016 #96

Wealth controls the MSM and the Party. If people don't know much about him, they senz Mar 2016 #52

A curious riddle it is indeed Califonz Mar 2016 #54

Profundity SHRED Mar 2016 #80

In the end, sadly, it appears it's not We the People who decide Chezboo Mar 2016 #56

If voting mattered, they wouldn't let us do it. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #66

love charnin's work questionseverything Mar 2016 #111

Maybe fear or misinformation. I think people are not fully informed, or they might change their mind Gregorian Mar 2016 #63

Agreed SHRED Mar 2016 #79

It is... deathrind Mar 2016 #64

Well said SHRED Mar 2016 #67

I'll take a guess. moondust Mar 2016 #82

Good "guess"...LOL SHRED Mar 2016 #83

He just needed more time flamingdem Mar 2016 #87

Sadly so. SHRED Mar 2016 #89

He'll extract plenty from Hillary flamingdem Mar 2016 #90

I think he is seeing a new frontier in politics SHRED Mar 2016 #92

I agree, he's developing a vision flamingdem Mar 2016 #93

The MSM has apparently earned their keep this election cycle. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #101

So you are amazed that anyone who you assume shares your ideals and political Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #102

Should Hillary get the nomination... SHRED Mar 2016 #104

Translation, you put the needs of others above your own. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #107

Excellent question. jwirr Mar 2016 #106

Hillary's supporters are "realistic," donchaknow? Utopian Leftist Mar 2016 #109

My expectations SHRED Mar 2016 #110