2016 Postmortem

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7. I think the current administration

Fri Mar 25, 2016, 10:34 PM

Mar 2016

has been trying to avoid war. You know, sadly, Americans are violent war lovers by nature and by history. We have more gun violence in USA which kills more than terrorism or terrorist. It's who we are. Look back 200 years until now. We have been killing innocent people since we arrived on this land. Change takes generations. I wish it could happen quick but people would go into shock . My opinion anyway

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Sanders and Warren are too far left and Hillary is too moderate... [View all] fun n serious Mar 2016 OP

No DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #1

We move toward the middle and the GOP moves even further right. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #2

Nope. Disagree completely n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #3

Truthfully... fun n serious Mar 2016 #4

But what about those for whom the status quo is not working, or worse? Wilms Mar 2016 #6

I think the current administration fun n serious Mar 2016 #7

People would go into shock if we stopped practicing regime change? Wilms Mar 2016 #9

No no that's not what I mean.... fun n serious Mar 2016 #11

It isn't complicated. Just "don't do stupid stuff"! Wilms Mar 2016 #22

I do not see Obama taking orders from Hillary. I just do not, nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #23

There's now email showing she twisted his arm with Libya. Wilms Mar 2016 #24

I haven't seen the e-mails but Obama doesn't strike me a person who can fun n serious Mar 2016 #25

I said, our ME policy does not reflect well on either. Wilms Mar 2016 #39

You are surprised? Really? Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #45

No, I'm done settling for what's acceptable to the religious right and tea partiers. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #5

Bernie polls better in the general election, so he's certainly not too far left jfern Mar 2016 #8

I think it's because Hillary has been smeared like NO ONE EVER fun n serious Mar 2016 #13

The Washington Post ran 16 hit pieces against Bernie in just 16 hours jfern Mar 2016 #17

I haven't seem Hillary smear Bernie. RE: WAPO fun n serious Mar 2016 #20

Bill Clinton basically called Bernie a liar jfern Mar 2016 #21

If you didn't see it then it must not have happened. Perogie Mar 2016 #65

If you're angry and want to fight fun n serious Mar 2016 #68

Check out where the Republicans used to be Perogie Mar 2016 #70

I agree. fun n serious Mar 2016 #72

Sanders gets Steinbeck's vote. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #10

+10000 Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #46

Despite the common wisdom that Hillary is a moderate, SheilaT Mar 2016 #12

I disagree and do not see that at all.. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #14

Which tells me that you're happy with it..... daleanime Mar 2016 #28

The average of Sanders + Congress puts us somewhere in the middle GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #15

I hope we change congress. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #16

No. Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #18

The left has been compromising since Mondale got destroyed. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #19

since Mcgovern really. The New Republic had a great article I read about this (origins of DLC) JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #51

Thanks for the link! Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #54

Jesse Jackson had a great line I will be using in the future: JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #55

They've changed the spelling of 'moderate', it use to be spelled..... daleanime Mar 2016 #26

Maybe they need 4 years of Cruz fun n serious Mar 2016 #29

So you think the answer to decades of drift to the right..... daleanime Mar 2016 #32

No you said that not me. fun n serious Mar 2016 #34

No, I said nothing about Cruz.... daleanime Mar 2016 #36

eh? I am not nor will I ever try to get you to change your mind fun n serious Mar 2016 #37

Don't care a bit about myself.... daleanime Mar 2016 #40

We disagree.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #41

Cruz is not a Republican Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #47

More of the same would be great. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #27

I want more of the same too. fun n serious Mar 2016 #30

Young people disagree. And they have a lot more of more of the same to "look forward to" JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #52

I consider Sanders and Warren center-left. ananda Mar 2016 #31

WOW, thank you. Iliyah Mar 2016 #33

No. They're hard left. fun n serious Mar 2016 #35

Only because the Democratic party acquiesced via the DLC JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #53

Shock and Awe! Meteor Man Mar 2016 #38

No because that is a choice born of fear. Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #42

Not going to happen for me. Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #43

I don't fear.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #44

Peace be with you as well... Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #48

I hope so. fun n serious Mar 2016 #69

Yes, better not upset the GOP by voting for progressives. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #49

Typical Republicans would crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary Clinton. Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #50

Right of Obama is now "moderate"? hobbit709 Mar 2016 #56

HRC is a long long way right of Obama. delrem Mar 2016 #58

Yep. She is no progressive or liberal no matter how many times she says it. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #59

Yeah, I did not like that at all nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #60

I do not want right of Obama. fun n serious Mar 2016 #61

I want left of center, Obama is right of center. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #63

You think so? fun n serious Mar 2016 #66

Whoa. Deep. delrem Mar 2016 #57

Is this the first time you'll vote Republican? Perogie Mar 2016 #62

Oh stop it. fun n serious Mar 2016 #67

Not with you in the slightest. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #64

Well, we must spare the delicate feelings of the Republicans or they'll be mean to us. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #71

No fun n serious Mar 2016 #73

Obama is leaving. Should we pander to the Republicans as a tribute to him? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #75

No way fun n serious Mar 2016 #76

I don't want to DESTROY the democratic party like some here want. fun n serious Mar 2016 #74

I don't want to destroy it all astrophuss42 Mar 2016 #77

Yes. I agree. God help us. fun n serious Mar 2016 #78

So were George W. Bush and McCain "moderates" to you? Lorien Mar 2016 #79

I like where fun n serious Mar 2016 #82

wrong! sanders and warren are populous right inline with the 90 percent of the nation hillary and the fourcents Mar 2016 #80

HORRIBLE ARGUMENT. Left == Progressive and has proven throughout history to be what country needed quantass Mar 2016 #81

yawn - more 3rd way debate-framing. Not buying it anymore. eom Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #83

Too far left? Kalidurga Mar 2016 #84

Bernie is to the right of FDR and LBJ, except on war. STNMA merrily Mar 2016 #85