2016 Postmortem

MADem

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72. I don't need to agree 100% with a candidate to support them.

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 05:05 PM

Mar 2016

And I don't need to "hate" an opponent, either. That's something I see all too often on "the internets." I find it unfortunate. Pointless. Childish, even.

Bernie Sanders is simply my second choice.

If you're going to drag up old stuff from decades ago like it matters (notwithstanding that the candidate has apologized for her vote), then it's only fair to drag up votes for which other candidates have NOT apologized.

I think the OP has a point--it's not like there hasn't been a relentless, right wing attack against both HRC and her husband, starting in the early nineties, after all. The article is directed, really, at the "Bernie or Bust" crowd, and is predicated on HRC winning the nomination.

If you believe the premise to be premature, you're welcome to say so--but you do yourself no favors by dragging up old stuff that's so easily countered.

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If You're Liberal and You Think Hillary Clinton Is Corrupt and Untrustworthy [View all] fun n serious Mar 2016 OP

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.......... MADem Mar 2016 #38

Pathetic attempt to minimize her record MADem. Pathetic attempt to draw moral equivalency ... kristopher Mar 2016 #60

That vote in 98 is what gave Bush the stones to do what he did. MADem Mar 2016 #76

There is no comparison between that and Hillary's warmongering. None. kristopher Mar 2016 #83

You cut and pasted something you could have linked to, easily--but you didn't prove your assertion. MADem Mar 2016 #87

Good try, but LIBERALS like Hillary. Far Left extremists and their Hortensis Mar 2016 #103

I know. It's quite the odd thing, isn't it? MADem Mar 2016 #107

Bingo! Lots of odd "things" calling themselves liberal Hortensis Mar 2016 #114

After being told yet again that anyone on the left.... daleanime Mar 2016 #62

I don't need to agree 100% with a candidate to support them. MADem Mar 2016 #72

So you're upset that I said Iraq war vote, instead of... daleanime Mar 2016 #80

I am not "upset" at all. And you're the one inventing distinctions -- not me. MADem Mar 2016 #88

Sanders votes against Brady bill... Why do you guys still think he's uponit7771 Mar 2016 #96

A broken clock is right twice a day. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #2

Don't Need GOP Smears noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #3

Not impressive as SOS. 840high Mar 2016 #102

Nope noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #106

Clinton's take money from Blackwater Politicalboi Mar 2016 #4

.+10 840high Mar 2016 #108

Forget all the GOP smears. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #5

NO! ABsolutely NO! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #6

Preach it! TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #15

Wachew sed! ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #35

LOL TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #109

Let's look at everyone's votes, shall we? MADem Mar 2016 #39

This part is interesting. fun n serious Mar 2016 #63

The Comparison Is One Of Character And Integrity... The Videos Are Not Impeachable.... CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #74

Enough said NWCorona Mar 2016 #7

This was her joking.. fun n serious Mar 2016 #10

She said the same thing in 2008 NWCorona Mar 2016 #16

Is this a joke? Hillary Clinton thought so, PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #34

Right. Everyone knows Sanders supporters can't think for themselves. bunnies Mar 2016 #8

Wasn't E. Warren a republican Until 1995? nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #9

Clinton 'changes' every 3 days..depending.... pangaia Mar 2016 #45

Baloney. The Clintons do this to themselves. Jackilope Mar 2016 #11

+1. Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #85

They can't beat Sanders either. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #12

No she has been destroyed by the GOP more than any other person fun n serious Mar 2016 #13

That I can agree with. NWCorona Mar 2016 #17

If it's true, it is not a smear. Divernan Mar 2016 #32

Most are smears fun n serious Mar 2016 #43

This, and... scscholar Mar 2016 #54

I know way too much about HRC marions ghost Mar 2016 #14

The headline of this screed is ridiculous enough CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #18

Koch Bros funded the DLC, which Hillary co-founded. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #19

OP respectfully, You don't think for me, and conservatives attacks are not why I don't like Hillary. Todays_Illusion Mar 2016 #20

No. I just believe my own eyes and ears NowSam Mar 2016 #21

Hillary is a neocon. frustrated_lefty Mar 2016 #22

Jury results: MerryBlooms Mar 2016 #111

Your comment about Hillary is disgusting and doesnt belong on this board. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #112

not H2O Man Mar 2016 #23

In her own words: 99Forever Mar 2016 #24

Marc Rich pardon Dems to Win Mar 2016 #25

Clinton's own words are not right-wing smears. jeff47 Mar 2016 #26

The Clintons lost me with their own actions over past 25 years. Divernan Mar 2016 #27

So let me see if I have this right... EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #28

first of all no one should assume what I think, hollysmom Mar 2016 #29

No I'm not, and I KNOW I'm not. dchill Mar 2016 #30

Oh, FFS - Hillary is all for war, fracking, the TPP, cluster bombs, etc. djean111 Mar 2016 #31

Don't forget she's also for capital punishment and willing to compromise on abortion. eom DookDook Mar 2016 #78

Nice try, Chez vt_native Mar 2016 #33

Right, GOP smears are what caused the current crises in Libya and Honduras frylock Mar 2016 #36

Blaming the victim AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #37

LOL, ok. nt Logical Mar 2016 #40

There is absolutely nothing fun or serious in your posts. SamKnause Mar 2016 #41

Most respectfully, Sam polly7 Mar 2016 #44

Thank you so much for your input. SamKnause Mar 2016 #52

It makes me sad to see that. polly7 Mar 2016 #55

Thank you Polly. I love you fun n serious Mar 2016 #58

Cheers, girl. polly7 Mar 2016 #61

You too. fun n serious Mar 2016 #66

ummmm ..... polly7 Mar 2016 #67

Cartoon fun n serious Mar 2016 #68

LOL polly7 Mar 2016 #69

I will TY. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #70

Oh look how cute you are! fun n serious Mar 2016 #47

Or, you remember who Henry Kissinger is. Or, what the Iraq War was. phantom power Mar 2016 #42

Yes. People change fun n serious Mar 2016 #49

Because the Republicans hate her, it means she is squeaky clean. Wilms Mar 2016 #46

Some of her "weaknesses" are attributable to RW smears, some of them are self-inflicted. strategery blunder Mar 2016 #48

Epic Fail. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #50

This isn't the first time around for this piece. peace13 Mar 2016 #51

She manages to "reward" them all on her own. Here's a crazy idea: arcane1 Mar 2016 #53

I don't think she's as corrupt as most politicians. joshcryer Mar 2016 #56

I appreciate that thought fun n serious Mar 2016 #90

K&R. Thanks, fun n serious. UtahLib Mar 2016 #57

YW. fun n serious Mar 2016 #71

LOL. I'd say ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #59

Lololololololololol................Lolololololololol........ Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #64

Here we go again.. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #65

Bosnia sniper fire is a good example of how Hillary gets herself in trouble hopeforchange2008 Mar 2016 #73

I think that Hillary is very untrustworthy, as for corrupt I lean that way Autumn Mar 2016 #75

She voted for war in Iraq. She pushed for wars in Syria and Libya. mainer Mar 2016 #77

And Bernie voted to help pay for those wars. Loki Mar 2016 #100

All too true NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #79

If you've read all the same evidence felix_numinous Mar 2016 #81

What a load Carolina Mar 2016 #82

If you are liberal, and you think Hillary Clinton is as well, mhatrw Mar 2016 #84

You should practice LOVE and peace. fun n serious Mar 2016 #95

I applaud your efforts to get people to do their own thinking. It's a long shot of course.. Bill USA Mar 2016 #86

Thank you Bill fun n serious Mar 2016 #89

I didn't need Republicans to come to that conclusion. Throd Mar 2016 #91

Another BS premise Roland99 Mar 2016 #92

Victimology was a good political strategy for both Clintons for awhile loyalsister Mar 2016 #93

K&R tammywammy Mar 2016 #94

K&R mcar Mar 2016 #97

I don't distrust her because of Republican smears democrattotheend Mar 2016 #98

K&R! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #99

Mahalo fun! Cha Mar 2016 #101

It's the GOP's fault she won't release the transcripts of her speeches? Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #104

The republican smears? iwillalwayswonderwhy Mar 2016 #105

No, I see how she repeatedly lies about Bernie jfern Mar 2016 #110

K&R. TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #113

She lacks courage. Sky Masterson Mar 2016 #115