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ProSense

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21. Yeah, they were only pretending to support Obama.

Sat Oct 20, 2012, 04:43 PM

Oct 2012

It's pretty obvious at this point there was a significant slice of the electorate that was actively looking for an excuse to vote Romney, and they got it during the first debate. Maybe they bought into Romney's bullshit, maybe they just wanted "change," who the hell knows. But now that they've made their jump, for whatever reason, they're actively lapping up whatever that sleazeball is selling. They're not looking for another excuse to switch back to Obama.

Makes as much sense as anyone watching the debate and coming away trusting Romney on Libya.

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PPP Ohio O 49 R 48 [View all] Jennicut Oct 2012 OP

Lead Holding DarthDem Oct 2012 #1

Yeah, I see Ohio as much stronger then Va and yet they have VA with Obama plus 2. Jennicut Oct 2012 #2

LINK? SugarShack Oct 2012 #43

That 52/44 worries me Azathoth Oct 2012 #3

You Can't Get That DarthDem Oct 2012 #4

What is your explanation for that? It surprises me that this poll is so close. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #5

Doesn't Surprise Me at All DarthDem Oct 2012 #10

That early vote can get eclipsed real fast Azathoth Oct 2012 #13

LOL DarthDem Oct 2012 #55

After 2000 and 2004, I can't imagine how any Dem could mock concerns about a tightening race in Ohio Azathoth Oct 2012 #56

You May Need to Relax DarthDem Oct 2012 #57

What's changed? Azathoth Oct 2012 #59

Early Voting DarthDem Oct 2012 #63

Perhaps people are no longer paying attention to the debate. Perhaps they have heard what Obama has helpisontheway Oct 2012 #14

You didn't get the memo? dennis4868 Oct 2012 #7

Survey USA and Fox are both Obama plus 3. Jennicut Oct 2012 #8

Those polls are too good so they don't Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #12

There was a time when PPP and Rass were the "Gravis marketing" of polling Azathoth Oct 2012 #9

go to RCP demwing Oct 2012 #11

can't believe people would still consider that fraud GRAVIS, in their totals... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #27

That's not really what it means ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #60

are we countering amborin Oct 2012 #6

THE MATH: If these #s for "yet to vote" are Correct Obama Wins boingboinh Oct 2012 #15

Obama needs just under 46% of those yet to vote in order to get to 50% total. nsd Oct 2012 #23

Wrong math - sorry BlueInPhilly Oct 2012 #31

This poll gives Romney 52% of likely voters yet to vote, not 55%. nsd Oct 2012 #34

Typo, my bad / Same #s BlueInPhilly Oct 2012 #40

Still a smidgen off. nsd Oct 2012 #42

Using this data President Obama Wins by 3.4%, which is dead nuts with the polling numbers mikekohr Oct 2012 #62

Here's what makes no sense: ProSense Oct 2012 #16

Because the economy is the number one issue andym Oct 2012 #17

What does that have to do with the question? ProSense Oct 2012 #19

This was your question about the debate (see the quotes of your post) andym Oct 2012 #28

Are you unable to see the point in bold? ProSense Oct 2012 #32

I see that you bolded Libya andym Oct 2012 #41

Simple. They don't care who won the debate. Azathoth Oct 2012 #20

Yeah, they were only pretending to support Obama. ProSense Oct 2012 #21

No, they weren't "pretending" Azathoth Oct 2012 #36

This doesn't justify the huge shifts being pushed. ProSense Oct 2012 #39

I don't pretend to understand it Azathoth Oct 2012 #46

15% of the voters in Thursday's Ipsos Reuters poll said they could still change their mind andym Oct 2012 #49

upthread amborin Oct 2012 #61

I think it's just a bad poll franklin200 Oct 2012 #18

Exactly. And people here are addicted to polls so they get off on the rollercoaster. writes3000 Oct 2012 #22

SurveyUSA had Obama up 14, but ProSense Oct 2012 #26

Brown +5.6 RCP krawhitham Oct 2012 #48

What do you mean "DOWN" with 52/44 yet to vote?? Likely voters?? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #24

Good point and no matter what Obama still is ahead. Albeit small, but ahead none the less. cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #30

I don't know if this will make GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #25

Please include a real link in any post!!!!! DavidL Oct 2012 #29

Chill. No need to be rude. Phx_Dem Oct 2012 #52

im so sick of polls MFM008 Oct 2012 #33

Maybe you could borrow flamingdem's! n/t GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #38

Ohio polling must not include cell phones ColumbusLib Oct 2012 #35

PPP doesn't call cell phones, true. LisaL Oct 2012 #37

Polls that do not include cell phones should be illegal, period!! DavidL Oct 2012 #45

Exactly !!! This is not "polling"! This is DavidL Oct 2012 #44

No Cellphones DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #47

Let's Hope It's An Aberration Florida Dem Oct 2012 #50

remember they don't uses cell-phones in their polls. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #51

Silver has Ohio at 70%. GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #53

Here's something else to consider: ProSense Oct 2012 #54

The early voting is a very good sign, very good. Intrade has Obama winning Ohio 60% grantcart Oct 2012 #58

How about straight from the Obama campaign: Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #64