2016 Postmortem

floriduck

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13. I have mixed feelings on that.

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:54 AM

Mar 2016

A popular vote disproportionately favors bigger population states. And it would hurt places like Rhode Island, Wyoming and others. So I guess the electoral college gives equal distribution to every state.

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Every superdelegate should support whichever candidate wins the most total popular votes nationally. [View all] Nye Bevan Mar 2016 OP

We should sell them to the Republicans Skink Mar 2016 #1

I think they should support the decision of their individual state. floriduck Mar 2016 #2

For the November Presidential election, do you favor the Electoral College, Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #4

I have mixed feelings on that. floriduck Mar 2016 #13

The electoral college disproportionately favors small states. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #20

How is that different from a small population state floriduck Mar 2016 #31

If we go by the national popular vote, there's no disproportionality. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #36

This would actually net Clinton more super-delegates, because she won bigger states with more SDs. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #12

But you can't base a change on the middle of an existing campaign. floriduck Mar 2016 #15

My point is that the rule change that Sanders' supporters are proposing would actually benefit... CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #16

My decisions are not based on which candidate it benefits. floriduck Mar 2016 #17

Also, I hope you noticed my answer floriduck Mar 2016 #19

All candidates *do* know the rules going in and *do* strategize accordingly. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #21

Thanks Garrett floriduck Mar 2016 #23

The rule being proposed, as I understand it, wouldn't really have any impact. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #26

I didn't suggest a winner take all rule. floriduck Mar 2016 #29

People like Nina Turner and apparently Alan Grayson think so. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #32

So, that would mean that Elizabeth Warren would have to vote for Hillary, right? Yavin4 Mar 2016 #27

The primary nominating system is based on gross vote totals? libtodeath Mar 2016 #3

Why shouldn't the supers follow the pledged delegate winner? morningfog Mar 2016 #5

A popular vote system would be fairer, Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #6

Other arguments are equally good. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #22

There are lots of problems with that. morningfog Mar 2016 #40

Winner!!! gordianot Mar 2016 #7

It's not votes that are valued differently. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #9

It is more than whether states have bigger population. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #34

Yes. I should have clarified. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #37

Yep! So those southern states Clinton won LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #38

But there are a *lot* of Democrats in the Deep South. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #41

Those red states don't have comparable number of delegates as blue states LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #42

Yes. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #45

Apportioning delegates is not based solely on population though. morningfog Mar 2016 #39

No, but there's a correlation between the # of Democrats and the # of delegates. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #46

If we're going to have states matter in this at all... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #8

This argument is exactly the opposite of Obama's 2008 arguments, those who want to push popular Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #10

No, because we have a hybrid election system Kittycat Mar 2016 #11

that argument is probably better stated..."As of March 28, 2016..." islandmkl Mar 2016 #14

Obama wouldn't be president if that were true. berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #18

. . . as long as the candidate with the most total popular votes nationally isn't Bernie. Vinca Mar 2016 #24

The idea of a superdelegate is repugnant to me. Frankly, they should all resign that status. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #25

Then we should not have primaries HassleCat Mar 2016 #28

I'm all for a series of national primaries. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #33

The reason for the crazy mixed up non-system. HassleCat Mar 2016 #47

There is no popular vote in the primaries. stone space Mar 2016 #30

In a fair election that is good. BUT this election like so many others is being rigged. bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #35

They shouldn't exist in the first place ibegurpard Mar 2016 #43

As always, is the right answer whatever benefits my candidate now or what the best pampango Mar 2016 #44