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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: Sarandon is contemptible [View all]

Gothmog

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95. Sorry, Bernie Sanders. There is zero evidence of your ‘political revolution’ yet
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:36 AM
Mar 2016

While this article is a little dated, no one has seen any evidence of the so-called Sanders revolution https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/10/sorry-bernie-sanders-there-is-zero-evidence-of-your-political-revolution-yet/

Bernie Sanders recorded a resounding victory in New Hampshire's Democratic primary Tuesday. He crushed his rival, Hillary Clinton, with no less than 60 percent of the vote. If Sanders hopes not only to win the election but to achieve his ambitious progressive agenda, though, that might not be enough.

To succeed, Sanders might have to drive Americans who don't normally participate to the polls. Unfortunately for him, groups who usually do not vote did not turn out in unusually large numbers in New Hampshire, according to exit polling data.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=&w=1484

...As for Sanders, he credited his victory to turnout. "Because of a huge voter turnout -- and I say huge -- we won," he said in his speech declaring victory, dropping the "h" in "huge." "We harnessed the energy, and the excitement that the Democratic party will need to succeed in November."

In fact, Sanders won by persuading many habitual Democratic primary voters to support him. With 95 percent of precincts reporting their results as of Wednesday morning, just 241,000 ballots had been cast in the Democratic primary, fewer than the 268,000 projected by New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner last week. Nearly 289,000 voters cast ballots in the state's Democratic primary in 2008.

To be sure, the general election is still seven months away. Ordinary Americans might be paying little attention to the campaign at this point, and if Sanders wins the nomination, he'll have the help of the Democratic Party apparatus in registering new voters. The political revolution hasn't started, though, at least not yet.

Without this revolution, I am not sure how Sanders proposes to advance his unrealistic agenda

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Sarandon is contemptible [View all] bigtree Mar 2016 OP
She did a hit job on Al Gore 16 years ago. Trenzalore Mar 2016 #1
That's odd- I thought she was primarily an environmentalist. bettyellen Mar 2016 #104
You would think she would have embraced Al Trenzalore Mar 2016 #105
What a fucking idiot. bettyellen Mar 2016 #110
And others think that electing Bernie will bring the revolution, as Susan Sarandon &I do peacebird Mar 2016 #2
No, Bernie won't bring about a revolution ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #8
Silly, Bernie has always said Revolution depends on We, The People stepping up & demanding it. peacebird Mar 2016 #12
Hillary is ahead by 2,000,000 + voters redstateblues Mar 2016 #18
She was ahead in 2008 and had more votes, but still lost! scscholar Mar 2016 #68
She only had more votes in 2008 because Obama didn't participate in Michigan NobodyHere Mar 2016 #129
Caucuses and Primaries bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #77
Sorry, Bernie Sanders. There is zero evidence of your ‘political revolution’ yet Gothmog Mar 2016 #95
Revolution would happen if Twitter and Facebook didn't disrupt their trending memes, dammit!! bettyellen Mar 2016 #114
Sanders needs voters to show and vote which is not happening Gothmog Mar 2016 #121
It sounds like the only thing Bernie's revolution has stepped up and demanded is that Bernie become EffieBlack Mar 2016 #132
Apparently she wants the country to drive off a cliff KingFlorez Mar 2016 #3
She is a fucking dilettante who doesn't actually care about poor people. bettyellen Mar 2016 #4
If she didn't care she'd take the psth of least resistance Armstead Mar 2016 #22
"the refugees have a branding problem" She should be sitting on the beach instead of sharing these bettyellen Mar 2016 #32
I'm sorry if you disapprove of activism for positive causes Armstead Mar 2016 #34
Smiling at the idea of Trump bringing the nation to it's knees is fucking reprehensible. bettyellen Mar 2016 #39
Interpret it ad you will. Armstead Mar 2016 #47
Not sure who you are inferring is "uninvolved" but idiot schemes to bring the nation down? bettyellen Mar 2016 #50
I initially supported Edwards as did many others Armstead Mar 2016 #56
Not sure why such staunch lefties would stump for Edwards. bettyellen Mar 2016 #65
Lol, coming from you that is a complement. Nt Logical Mar 2016 #94
Personal insults again. So very classy. bettyellen Mar 2016 #103
Lol, says the person who said "fucking dilettante" Logical Mar 2016 #109
she is not a DUer. I am. bettyellen Mar 2016 #112
Which means nothing! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #125
Such a terrible plan bravenak Mar 2016 #5
Called it... DanTex Mar 2016 #6
I have lost any respect I had for her. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #7
That's the rich lady who richsplained stuff to Dolores Huerta, yes? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #9
Yes--she tried to tell an agricultural rights icon about agriculture!! MADem Mar 2016 #17
At this point... Chan790 Mar 2016 #85
"she's a nasty racist, sexist troll" bigtree Mar 2016 #86
Happy to lose you as an audience member. Chan790 Mar 2016 #89
Exactly. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #91
No, she's against the death penalty. dogman Mar 2016 #10
Yup a WTF moment if I've ever seen one. Agschmid Mar 2016 #11
She is desperate for attention. redstateblues Mar 2016 #13
Yes. Trenzalore Mar 2016 #14
White privilege on steroids BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #15
I seriously give up. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #54
Take a flyer on Trump cuz revolution would be just around the corner? BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #62
I honestly didn't haven't seen what she said yet, I'm just weary of everytime a white... Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #64
It's not a term I like to throw around BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #69
I'm watching the link right now, so far the argument that.. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #72
Yep, seemingly willing to consider watching the country burn down under a trump pkdu Mar 2016 #16
It's burning down anyway. It's just a neoliberal slow burn right now. marmar Mar 2016 #97
Nope, she's right to think hard about what will actually bring... polichick Mar 2016 #19
Why is that contemptible? It's true. What is contemptible about speaking an indisputable truth? Vote2016 Mar 2016 #20
I don't understand the poutrage either, some people do say that, she's not the one saying it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #23
They are acting as if Sarandon was supporting Trump (she's not). They're acting like she's the only Vote2016 Mar 2016 #27
That's how I read it too, why would she vote for Trump? She supports Bernie. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #29
They panic when Sanders starts winning states with over 70% support Vote2016 Mar 2016 #31
Bingo! That's why they attacked Bernie's marriage. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #33
She smiled at the idea of Trump bringing the nation to it's knees. bettyellen Mar 2016 #35
Oh brother. Like I said some people look for reasons to hate her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #36
Her saying she would prefer the nation to collapse because of Trump is okay by you? bettyellen Mar 2016 #43
OH MY GOD! She actually said that??? Got a link? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #44
She smiled and laughed while talking about it- said the "status quo" was more dangerous. bettyellen Mar 2016 #52
So no she didn't actually say that, good to know. Keep digging! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #53
I highly recommend you watch the interview. The line about Trump bringing The Revolution.... Hekate Mar 2016 #78
lol! "Dear Susan, please frown more when discussing the orange clown. Thanks, Mgmt." Vote2016 Mar 2016 #42
The glimmer in her eye while talking about a collapse was kind of bizarre. bettyellen Mar 2016 #45
"Dear Susan, P.S. About the eyes. Tone down the sparkle a bit, hmmmmk? Thanks, the Mgmt." Vote2016 Mar 2016 #51
was there a "tone"? ibegurpard Mar 2016 #59
LOL! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #61
LOL! I needed a good out-loud laugh like that one tonight, too! JudyM Mar 2016 #70
Her being gleeful about "things will really explode". Not wise, and pretty fucking heartless. bettyellen Mar 2016 #115
Kind of a "We came, we saw, he died" sort of glimmer? Fumesucker Mar 2016 #84
She is talking about the "things will really explode." nationwide to millions of people. bettyellen Mar 2016 #116
It's a new meme Hydra Mar 2016 #37
Hillary NEEDS Trump because it wouldn't even be close if we foolishly nominated her to run against Vote2016 Mar 2016 #48
Because she doesn't support Hillary? This is America. jillan Mar 2016 #21
Well,no shit. ."she can vote for anyone sufrommich Mar 2016 #88
Wait I thought Cornell West was his most prominent surrogate jillan Mar 2016 #101
She never once said that she would vote for Trump. That is a provable lie. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #128
KnR! sheshe2 Mar 2016 #24
I think she just finds Hillary contemptible. Autumn Mar 2016 #25
gleefully promoting scorched earth fantasies is an option- and she took it. bettyellen Mar 2016 #117
We have a different perception of her Autumn Mar 2016 #118
It is unfortunate she can't represent Bernie's ideas instead of this scorched earth bullshit. bettyellen Mar 2016 #119
She doesn't want to play the game as dictated. Oh, those independent thinkers... Skwmom Mar 2016 #26
She's a Naderite. What else do you need to know? redstateblues Mar 2016 #28
Sarandon was great tonight on All In with Chris Hayes... k8conant Mar 2016 #30
I'll save "contemptible" to describe those looking to prop up a disgusting loan-sharking industry. bullwinkle428 Mar 2016 #38
Taking things out of context is contemptsble Armstead Mar 2016 #40
What exactly is wrong with the statement and why does it make her "contemptible"? BlueStater Mar 2016 #41
I'm gonna go with she didn't say how wonderful Hillary was? Autumn Mar 2016 #46
... beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #49
Seriously, amrite? Autumn Mar 2016 #55
THERE WAS A GLIMMER IN HER EYE, I SAW IT!!! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #58
"things will really explode" chuckle chuckle. bettyellen Mar 2016 #120
She's disgusting. A diletantte who likes to play activist lunamagica Mar 2016 #57
She is the embodiment of the characature of the left Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #63
Sorry beedle Mar 2016 #100
You know perfectly well who I'm talking about. Calling Hillary a Dillattante is one of the most lunamagica Mar 2016 #124
wow toshiba783 Mar 2016 #60
Your contempt of anyone who doesn't support HRC is contemptible. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #66
She can support whomevet she likes but LisaM Mar 2016 #67
What is the false narrative about Mrs. Clinton? nichomachus Mar 2016 #73
Here is the full video ... slipslidingaway Mar 2016 #71
Wow Susan doesn't like Monsanto rbrnmw Mar 2016 #133
GOD BLESS SUSAN SARANDON! TRUE PATRIOT! ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #74
Chris Hayes looked absolutely gobsmacked. She looked like a starry-eyed 17 year old... Hekate Mar 2016 #75
Soon funny EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #76
Classic Ten Minute Hate Thread leveymg Mar 2016 #79
Silly but expected reference to Orwell. bettyellen Mar 2016 #134
The comparision is apt. Go ahead if it makes you feel better. leveymg Mar 2016 #135
She's just a private citizen expressing an opinion. Bad Dog Mar 2016 #80
She's a communist....her and thelma should drive off a cliff n/t blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #81
Thelma endorsed Hillary 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #82
Damn.....n/t blueintelligentsia Mar 2016 #83
It's her vote. You could always try earning it. hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #87
They don't want to earn it. They feel they're entitled to it. Chan790 Mar 2016 #90
She is disgusting. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #92
I miss the unrec button. Scuba Mar 2016 #93
I can think of a whole lot of people LWolf Mar 2016 #96
If Trump gets elected, I'd be more willing to bet on a fascist revolution than a socialist one.... steve2470 Mar 2016 #98
Sorry not voting for the lesser of two evils again. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #106
ok, enjoy Trump or whoever the Republican is, bye nt steve2470 Mar 2016 #107
Guess You should have supported the better canidate Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #108
it's too much hard work. people seem to thing insta-revolution is possible. brought to you by bettyellen Mar 2016 #111
yep steve2470 Mar 2016 #113
that's good poutrage, bigtree! TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #99
But don't you remember the 2004 revolution that W brought about? robbedvoter Mar 2016 #102
Only in a country with suppressed speech would that be said about her. ViseGrip Mar 2016 #122
suppressing this bigtree Mar 2016 #123
Okay, take out your yellow highlighter and run it across "Some people think...". KamaAina Mar 2016 #126
"Revolution?" Then why is she for gun control? Eleanors38 Mar 2016 #127
Great interview Carolina Mar 2016 #130
If Bernie is "responsible" for Susan Sarandon's comments and comments TheSarcastinator Mar 2016 #131
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