2016 Postmortem

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70. it was a speech opposing a constitutional amendment to oppress GLBT Americans

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:48 AM

Mar 2016

it was distasteful pandering, and it was almost certainly disingenuous.

this is how politicians are. they don't lead, they follow the public

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All this hand wringing over Susan Sarandon reminds me of another female political activist who dared [View all] jillan Mar 2016 OP

Women who don't support Hillary, you know where they're going: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #1

I hope for their sake though that's where the boys are! polly7 Mar 2016 #77

Oh my! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #86

You're welcome. :) nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #89

I'm too old to know who the person is. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2016 #165

I have no idea either. I was hunting down men's hairstyles one day polly7 Mar 2016 #214

homina homina homina..... wendylaroux Mar 2016 #103

Wow!! Gorgeous! haikugal Mar 2016 #152

Not bad. Little too young, though. senz Mar 2016 #173

LOL Yes, you're right, it is good. polly7 Mar 2016 #213

Oh, I'm sure not to be anywhere NEAR that old tire... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #204

Bernin'! janlea Mar 2016 #206

Nah, Susan doesn't care nor should she. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #207

Batshit knows no gender RandySF Mar 2016 #2

+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #3

Trudat ... salinsky Mar 2016 #4

I think everyone gets passionate about their candidate during the primary yeoman6987 Mar 2016 #107

One could say the same of super rich former first ladies. senz Mar 2016 #175

Jane Fonda was batshit for speaking out against the war? jillan Mar 2016 #6

All women and issues are the same? Always need to strip away the context to make your bettyellen Mar 2016 #120

She's batshit for participating in North Vietnamese propaganda NobodyHere Mar 2016 #164

She actually apologized RandySF Mar 2016 #170

Yup. zappaman Mar 2016 #7

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #52

Sure you would. demmiblue Mar 2016 #64

+1 bravenak Mar 2016 #117

+1 rock Mar 2016 #153

But stolid, turgid, stick-in-the-mud superiority is distinctly middle-aged male. senz Mar 2016 #168

Sorry but RandySF Mar 2016 #169

But Randy, do you have the courage to fight the crap? senz Mar 2016 #171

That's not the issue RandySF Mar 2016 #174

She senses that Hill would put a stranglehold on progressivism in this country senz Mar 2016 #176

Did Fonda attack civil rights icons? nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #5

Civil rights icon? KPN Mar 2016 #44

Yeah...Dolores Huerta is a civil rights icon. LexVegas Mar 2016 #80

Dolores Huerrta? KPN Mar 2016 #135

Good post. Thanks! haikugal Mar 2016 #154

Dolores Huerta is a confirmed liar. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #216

who are you going to believe? a "civil rights icon" or the lying videotape? Vote2016 Mar 2016 #49

"Icons." Got religion now? senz Mar 2016 #177

People are not upset with her for backing Bernie. LonePirate Mar 2016 #8

She doesn't support Trump, she never said that. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #10

She didn't but don't bother - they have made up their minds that she did. jillan Mar 2016 #14

It's a witch hunt, ever since she came out in support of Bernie they've been lying about her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #16

I know! She dared to say that she doesn't vote with her vagina! Ooooooo! jillan Mar 2016 #19

One of DU's most outspoken "feminists" made a nasty comment about her "sexy pose". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #21

This! NWCorona Mar 2016 #42

It's her right. Somehow we seemed to have lost that notion. She can vote for whomever she wants. jillan Mar 2016 #11

Wrong! On a website by and for Democrats, she deserves to be vilified if she supports a Repub. LonePirate Mar 2016 #60

She didn't say that. She said she didn't know. Hayes said Trump, she said Jill Stein and then she jillan Mar 2016 #72

Sorry, but I respectfully disagree. Vilified? Really? KPN Mar 2016 #145

Since you respectfully disagree, you actually believe it is OK to support Repubs here on DU? LonePirate Mar 2016 #150

I think you are putting words into my and Sarandon's mouths. KPN Mar 2016 #160

You're putting words in my mouth. LonePirate Mar 2016 #163

Please don't bully other people. Okay? senz Mar 2016 #179

I'm accused of putting words in someone's mouth and that makes me a bully? LonePirate Mar 2016 #194

Predictable. Expected. KPN Mar 2016 #184

Why is it sad or "predictable" to ask people not to advocate against Dems in the GE? LonePirate Mar 2016 #193

Your response was predictable. KPN Mar 2016 #198

Dear god in heaven, please tell me she did not say that! Really? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #40

No she didn't say that, this is a lie from last night's interview. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #55

Ouch, turns out she kinda did. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #59

No she didn't, she never said she supported Trump. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #65

THis is what she said, and DAn Savage even had to rebuff her Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #71

She never said she supported Trump, that link proves it. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #83

Well, she said this Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #88

So she never said she supports him or is voting for him, thanks for clearing that up. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #93

"A fact is a fact"? See "irony" in dictionary. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #119

No she kinda didn't ibegurpard Mar 2016 #140

But it is RIGHT there in plain english, isnt it? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #142

No, it isn't....reading comprehension, it's a new thing! haikugal Mar 2016 #157

What does that mean then? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #166

You haven't been paying attention? haikugal Mar 2016 #167

I think it means she'll wait to see what happens.... bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #178

Bingo!! haikugal Mar 2016 #183

Watch the interview. She was answering a question and she was not JDPriestly Mar 2016 #158

Since Trump will never, ever be the nominee, that's a moot point n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #114

You should probably avoid listening to Clinton fans. They try to make you believe untrue things, DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #118

I've read the reports and verbatim quotes of her statements. Seems to me Trump is her second choice. LonePirate Mar 2016 #124

I think I'll continue to call out dishonest statements where I see them. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #125

There's nothing dishonest in saying Sarandon implies she will support Trump if Bernie loses. LonePirate Mar 2016 #127

They most certainly did not - eom dreamnightwind Mar 2016 #211

Maybe you should watch the video yourself rather than relying on the quotes 1monster Mar 2016 #162

Cool it with the witch hunt. You just want to go after somebody. senz Mar 2016 #181

Smile. Appreciate the support KPN Mar 2016 #189

love your avatar Hiraeth Mar 2016 #126

Thank you! It is possible to love Bernie but loathe Bernie or Busters. LonePirate Mar 2016 #131

anything is possible Hiraeth Mar 2016 #132

But not likely Fairgo Mar 2016 #133

not likely I read any more of your posts. Hiraeth Mar 2016 #144

Hmmmm, you might have misread my post Fairgo Mar 2016 #147

Fairgo's good. senz Mar 2016 #182

Yeah, and why are DU men commenting on this? demmiblue Mar 2016 #9

Strong outspoken women have that effect on some people. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #13

I am surprised that they haven't tried to slut shame her for... demmiblue Mar 2016 #61

That's next, they're already slinging around sexist terms. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #66

Geez, I was being a little hyperbolic (knowingly)... demmiblue Mar 2016 #97

You have no idea how often I was compared to Jane Fonda by older male relatives senz Mar 2016 #185

They hadn't coined the term 'feminazi' then but if they had that's what they would've called her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #191

Yup. Hypocrisy & irrationality do wonders for gender politics. nt senz Mar 2016 #192

So you reject any criticism of Hillary from male Bernie supporters? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #24

Lol. demmiblue Mar 2016 #29

Hillary is the opposite of Jane Fonda and Susan Sarandon. senz Mar 2016 #190

+1 KPN Mar 2016 #48

please clarify demwing Mar 2016 #82

Somewhat a parody of certain Hillary supporters, though some may find a wee kernel of truth. demmiblue Mar 2016 #92

She has routinely campaigned for 3rd parties Trenzalore Mar 2016 #12

So what? She can vote for anyone she wants. We are supposed to have that option in the US. jillan Mar 2016 #15

Bernie's running as a Democrat but don't let the facts get in the way of a good smear. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #18

Dictating? potone Mar 2016 #22

Is that even legal?!!? We should really make a law forcing people to vote the way we want. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #123

You're still here? ... Trajan Mar 2016 #201

Hopefully Trenzalore Mar 2016 #202

Damn ... You've only been here for 12 days, and look at ya! Trajan Mar 2016 #203

Kind of disturbing Trenzalore Mar 2016 #205

Naw! It's just the DU Hillary group. longship Mar 2016 #17

It is. Check out the Sarandon hate thread-- it's a few names posting over and over, Marr Mar 2016 #27

It's a wonder they haven't broken their arms with all that self-congratulatory back slapping. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #38

So, this rule applies to Naderite Hollywood actresses but not Hillary Clinton? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #20

Hillary speaks out for different things: war, "traditional" marriage... beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #23

This isn't 1996. But, just to be clear, women who support Bernie are above criticism geek tragedy Mar 2016 #26

She was fiercely opposed to marriage equality until 2013. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #30

Fiercely opposed? Come on. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #34

Yes, fiercly opposed as in giving speeches trying to convince others to oppose it: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #45

first clip is from .... 2006 and arguing against a constiutional amendment banning same sex geek tragedy Mar 2016 #56

In that clip she defined marriage as a "sacred bond between a man and a woman". beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #62

it was a speech opposing a constitutional amendment to oppress GLBT Americans geek tragedy Mar 2016 #70

She stated her opposition over and over again, who should I believe, Hillary or you? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #81

I don't understand your question. Are you comparing Hillary to an actress? jillan Mar 2016 #25

Susan Sarandon is a Sanders campaign surrogate. Anyone can say whatever they want. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #28

She is a Bernie supporter. Just as Madeline Albrecht "Burn in Hell" is a Hillary supporter. jillan Mar 2016 #32

and you wrote an OP demanding people lay off Madeline Albright because she's a woman? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #36

No - but many Hillary supporters did. jillan Mar 2016 #39

so you've adopted their reasoning? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #41

When is the party going to take responsibility nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #104

bashing Dixiecrat/Conservadems is not controversial here. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #112

Yet the folks blamed for Florida nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #134

there's no need to blame either/or for Florida, conservadems geek tragedy Mar 2016 #136

Sorry but I never hear anybody blaming the USSC or the Dems for it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #137

you never hear anyone bashing the Bush v Gore 5? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #139

Very rarely and as a reminder when idiots bring, predictably mind you, Nader nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #141

Jane Fonda had massive fundraisers, just like Clooney MattP Mar 2016 #31

Well, I must confess, I will never ever ever through Clooney under the bus.... jillan Mar 2016 #35

What a pathetically lame analogy.....geez Trust Buster Mar 2016 #33

Not really, Bernie supporters were bashed for going after Madeline Albright because she didn't speak jillan Mar 2016 #37

nobody is going after her for preferring Bernie to Clinton. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #43

Except she's NOT doing that, people are lying about what she said to vilify her. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #46

she gave the standard Rock Bottomer justificiation for letting Trump win--Trump winning geek tragedy Mar 2016 #58

More weaseling, she never said she supported Trump. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #68

1) spare me the disengenuous "it's sexism to criticize Sarandon" nonsense; geek tragedy Mar 2016 #91

Thanks for proving my point, you just posted a link proving she doesn't support Trump: beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #98

funny how she flat out refused to suggest that Trump winning would be worse than Clinton geek tragedy Mar 2016 #100

So still nothing? Quelle surprise! Thanks for playing! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #102

And that is the whole point! That's her right. Susan Sarandon can vote for whomever she pleases. jillan Mar 2016 #50

Sarandon is a Sanders surrogate. He should not be using her. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #57

No - she is a supporter. She has introduced him at some rallies. She does phone banking. She does jillan Mar 2016 #67

Got it... you think a woman and a black man are not powerful in their own right. demmiblue Mar 2016 #73

No, I think campaigns get to choose who they deploy as surrogates and that geek tragedy Mar 2016 #79

So, you are saying that Hillary co-signed Ferraro's racist remarks? demmiblue Mar 2016 #84

No, they didn't know what she would say. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #95

You run a dog whistle campaign, you attract the dogs. demmiblue Mar 2016 #108

not sure how you think that supports your side of this argument, but go ahead and run with it nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #111

Ok. Thanks for your permission, Dad. demmiblue Mar 2016 #113

And Sarandon did't support trump either nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #76

Except she is not nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #75

I think even Sarandon herself would be offended by suggesting her doubts with regards to voting Trust Buster Mar 2016 #53

+1 Jane Fonda got a backlash much bigger treestar Mar 2016 #186

Sarandon is a Nader acolyte. "not a dimes worth of difference"? nuff said redstateblues Mar 2016 #47

That's her right. I don't care. jillan Mar 2016 #51

Why does Susan Sarandon hate America? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #54

why does she want it to "explode"? bettyellen Mar 2016 #105

ZOMG SHE WANTS US TO EXPLODE NOW??? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #109

Thank her and her fellow Naderites for Bush/Cheney if you see her redstateblues Mar 2016 #74

You spelled SCOTUS wrong. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #110

lol! senz Mar 2016 #195

Do you agree with her? Renew Deal Mar 2016 #210

Didn't something like this happen to the Dixie Chicks in the 90's? Nt Rebkeh Mar 2016 #63

Yes nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #78

Yep - I thought of that after I posted the OP. jillan Mar 2016 #85

Yes indeed it did, great observation! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #87

Yup, this is how it happens. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #90

yup. PFunk1 Mar 2016 #94

I guess Saradon has enough money so that she can buy her way out of what ever upaloopa Mar 2016 #69

Hillary group: 768 blocked DUers! longship Mar 2016 #96

Geez- I was banned from the Bernie Group for asking a mild question. redstateblues Mar 2016 #99

A mild question? As in red baiting? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #106

I am a Bernie supporter and I was banned from the Bernie group. longship Mar 2016 #115

+1 Me too. treestar Mar 2016 #187

They hate that poor bird almost as much as they hate Susan. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #101

people forget heaven05 Mar 2016 #116

Sarandon is no hero. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #121

You're right. She is however a good actress. Not great, but good. jillan Mar 2016 #122

Yes she is. She speaks truth to power. That's a hero ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #130

Don't make me laugh, I have chapped lips! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #149

Yep. Joe McCarthy has taken up residence on DU. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #128

And I though out the dead were confined to the cemetery nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #138

Joe's spirit lives on. And, is often invoked when it comes to left wing activists. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #146

True, true nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #148

Susan can support whomever she wants. But to see someone so privideged saying with glee lunamagica Mar 2016 #129

Jane Fonda said she'd vote for a misogynist, anti- immigrant authoritarian? brooklynite Mar 2016 #143

Sarandon is considerably more mature now than Fonda was then. merrily Mar 2016 #151

Yes, and it's much in the same (right-wing) register. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #155

Free republic underground.... haikugal Mar 2016 #159

Fonda didn't give tacit support to fascists. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #156

Spare me the whining leftynyc Mar 2016 #161

This! grossproffit Mar 2016 #200

Jane Fonda eventually apologized RandySF Mar 2016 #172

Leni Reifinsthal is a better analogy BainsBane Mar 2016 #180

Beat me to it, Bain.....Leni was my first thought as well. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #215

I saw that Jonathan "bernie wasn't there" Capehart was sprinkling his pixie dust today . . . Depaysement Mar 2016 #188

I'm not wringing my hands, I just think that the woman is a twit. Beacool Mar 2016 #196

Barbarella could kick Janet's ass jberryhill Mar 2016 #197

Rosario Dawson reddread Mar 2016 #199

because they both have vaginas? :sarcasm: bettyellen Mar 2016 #208

The irony of your post is too much Renew Deal Mar 2016 #209

Nancy Reagan? reddread Mar 2016 #212