2016 Postmortem

Herman4747

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19. You couldn't show what Hillary has done to promote....

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:11 AM

Mar 2016

...unionization, could you?

Doesn't surprise me.

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Hillary wins endorsement of District council 37, largest labor union in NYC - 121,000 workers [View all] bigtree Mar 2016 OP

Hillary did NOTHING to promote unionization at WalMart... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #1

I suspect they thought deeply and decided she is better for the membership. Hoyt Mar 2016 #6

Well then, you should have no problem at all... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #15

Lots of unions think she's best, they are the ultimate arbiters. Maybe they just think she'll Hoyt Mar 2016 #16

You couldn't show what Hillary has done to promote.... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #19

She's impressed the union leadership, elected by the membership to represent their interests, that Hoyt Mar 2016 #25

Yeah you tell em rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #9

union workers are "mostly women of color"???? Herman4747 Mar 2016 #13

here are photos of DC37's vice-presidents. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #72

I count 26 people in the photo.... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #75

"some 60% of DC 37's membership are black women." geek tragedy Mar 2016 #78

Before that, though, you want to try again... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #93

do you think NYC and the union have gotten whiter since then? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #94

Do you have any proof that the proportion of Herman4747 Mar 2016 #97

we're splitting hairs at this point. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #100

I find it incredible how obsessed you are with... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #104

really. you've missed every single exit poll and story about the demographics geek tragedy Mar 2016 #107

I am glad you gave up... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #98

are you familiar with this union at all? geek tragedy Mar 2016 #102

Yes, I have been to New York. n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #105

Outstanding. How many union people did you interview? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #106

You a poc? whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #99

Maybe Bernie can get 1%er Susan Sarandon to come out from one of her many mansions to give a presser workinclasszero Mar 2016 #80

You should write them a furious letter. DanTex Mar 2016 #64

Wonder how they will be demeaned? I know it is coming. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #2

You didn't have to wonder long. auntpurl Mar 2016 #3

All the local unions will go all out for Hillary and unlike in other states Unions are a powerhouse hrmjustin Mar 2016 #4

DU rec for all kinds of reasons...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #5

K&R livetohike Mar 2016 #7

I see DC37's DELEGATES Uponthegears Mar 2016 #8

Yeah cuz those delegates rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #10

Actually not Uponthegears Mar 2016 #11

So now it's anti-Union talk rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #12

Oh my Uponthegears Mar 2016 #45

+1. It's true of AFT/UFT. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #57

"history of autocratic governance" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #36

See #45 nt Uponthegears Mar 2016 #46

did you complain when unions endorsed Sanders without letting their members vote? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #47

DC37 is very heavily women of color, especially black women. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #84

So having proved you don't Uponthegears Mar 2016 #86

I see bitter, sour grapes from a Sanders supporter geek tragedy Mar 2016 #87

I never claimed that Uponthegears Mar 2016 #91

"fat cats purporting to speak for WORKERS" = union members obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #59

You people always miss the point that union leadership workinclasszero Mar 2016 #82

Another Hillary supporter Uponthegears Mar 2016 #85

c'mon bigtree Mar 2016 #95

I pretty much admit that Uponthegears Mar 2016 #96

Another union where members don't get to vote pinebox Mar 2016 #14

Membership doesn't elect the leadership? Darn, I wouldn't pay dues to a union like that. Hoyt Mar 2016 #18

Darn is right pinebox Mar 2016 #22

Membership elects leadership to represent them. Sounds like leadership is doing that. If not, Hoyt Mar 2016 #23

You're wrong Hoyt. This isn't about Sanders. You are misreading. pinebox Mar 2016 #26

sure it isn't nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #30

Sorry, I don't agree. The leadership will be the one who works with the Prez and staffers, Hoyt Mar 2016 #34

Disagree completely pinebox Mar 2016 #39

Did you complain when Postal Workers, AFL-CIO, Dock Workers, etc., endorsed Sanders? Hoyt Mar 2016 #42

Again, people should be allowed to vote pinebox Mar 2016 #113

They get to vote at the primary, and don't have to vote for the union's endorsee. Hoyt Mar 2016 #114

Hoyt, people should be able to vote for who their union endorses pinebox Mar 2016 #115

Suppress? They get to vote, and are not bound by who the leadership Hoyt Mar 2016 #117

As a general rule of thumb, union members don't get to vote for who their union backs pinebox Mar 2016 #121

Wonder who they would have endorsed HAD THE MEMBERS BEEN ALLOWED TO VOTE??? Scuba Mar 2016 #17

Exactly colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #21

are you a member of DC 37? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #35

Probably the person who represented them for 8 years geek tragedy Mar 2016 #29

We'll never know, but that won't stop Hillary's supporters from claiming all the member's support. Scuba Mar 2016 #31

I don't think anyone is going to be claiming that. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #33

You know that when union members have voted they've picked Bernie every time? Scuba Mar 2016 #37

how many unions hold plebiscites to determine geek tragedy Mar 2016 #38

Bernie Sanders Gets Group Endorsements When Members Decide; Hillary Clinton When Leaders Decide Scuba Mar 2016 #40

according to your chart, exactly ONE union endorsed Sanders geek tragedy Mar 2016 #43

The chart is clear: Hillary has not gotten a single union endorsement when members voted. Scuba Mar 2016 #49

and Sanders got a grand total of one. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #52

Thank you! Eom Karma13612 Mar 2016 #63

also, people who assume Sanders would get a majority of DC37's members' votes geek tragedy Mar 2016 #81

Thank for "-splaining" Uponthegears Mar 2016 #88

Apparently you Sanders supporters really do need this sort of thing explained to you. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #89

Yes, Uponthegears Mar 2016 #92

+1000000000000000. My Union SEIU1199 Karma13612 Mar 2016 #62

They are endorsing the most qualified candidate n/t cosmicone Mar 2016 #20

Maybe Unions are more informed than online bloggers when it comes to political campaigns... brooklynite Mar 2016 #24

Uhhhh how so? Bernie has fought for labor more so than Hillary pinebox Mar 2016 #28

...because they think he'll lose to the Republican candidate. brooklynite Mar 2016 #41

I don't buy that pinebox Mar 2016 #51

LOL, so now you're bashing unions as corrupt, because they endorsed the person who represented geek tragedy Mar 2016 #54

Thank you for making my point... brooklynite Mar 2016 #55

Polls aren't exactly meaningless pinebox Mar 2016 #112

he's never fought for New York nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #44

Nice! mcar Mar 2016 #27

Hilary on time michealgordons Mar 2016 #32

Union leadership has endorsed REPUBLICAN candidates... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #48

so, NYC unions should care more about Hillary Clinton's tenure as First Lady of Arkansas than geek tragedy Mar 2016 #50

Okay, do tell what precisely Hillary did... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #53

you mean during the Bush administration, when Republicans controlled Congress? nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #56

Oh, so those... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #60

she did plenty for the people of New York while in the Senate. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #66

Well, that applies to both union and nonunion folks... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #68

union members in New York are still New Yorkers, geek tragedy Mar 2016 #69

Of course not. But do explain how helping all... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #70

it's relevant to the union members nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #71

It's relevant to ALL PEOPLE. n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #76

yes, and union members vote as people. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #83

Which Clinton will turn-up on the WH steps in Jan. 2017? Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #58

K&R Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #61

There was a Union Representative in a Chicago bar the night Chicagoans shut down the Trump rally. ieoeja Mar 2016 #65

here's a shockeroo, union members in NYC aren't all white people geek tragedy Mar 2016 #73

Who said they would vote for Trump? You need to re-read that quote. ieoeja Mar 2016 #77

DC37 is mostly black women. Please don't act surprised geek tragedy Mar 2016 #79

Unions appreciate leaders who roll up their sleeves and go to work. oasis Mar 2016 #67

WOW! 121,000 workers!!! workinclasszero Mar 2016 #74

Most of whom will vote for Bernie whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #101

K&R. Go Hillary! lunamagica Mar 2016 #90

They have no idea what they're doing Politicalboi Mar 2016 #103

you tell em! You know everything! nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #108

Please provide the rank & file vote totals for this endorsement. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #109

Great news! Thanks very much for posting. nt kstewart33 Mar 2016 #110

Hillary is about as anti-union as Democrats can get. Don't forget she was on the board of WALMART! Zen Democrat Mar 2016 #111

Union endorsements not always what they seem... snowy owl Mar 2016 #116

I'll tell you what this means bigtree Mar 2016 #119

You don't know what that phrase means? snowy owl Mar 2016 #120

KNR Thank you! Lucinda Mar 2016 #118