2016 Postmortem

CalvinballPro

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25. Clinton is honest about polling. Bernie isn't. Does he tell his supporters that he poll-tested

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:48 PM

Mar 2016

"free college" and "marijuana legalisation" as ways to attract Millennials to his campaign? No, he doesn't.

All your anti-Clinton nonsense seems more and more like projection every day. Your candidate is the money-obsessed dishonest political insider. He's certainly been manipulating rubes like you far longer than Clinton has been in politics, that's for sure.

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DC 37 (NYC) is one of the most progressive unions in the country [View all] geek tragedy Mar 2016 OP

They don't care. It is all about group think now. hrmjustin Mar 2016 #1

Truth. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #2

Just because they're choie Mar 2016 #4

LMAO. They're not armchair revolutionaries, they actually do go out on a limb geek tragedy Mar 2016 #5

+1 Internet activism isn't real activism. nt CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #7

Then why are you on the internet? Armstead Mar 2016 #10

News, comedy, boredom. I don't imply that my comments are going to change the country, though. CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #19

Yes it is! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #32

I repeat choie Mar 2016 #9

do you realize how condescending you're being? honest question. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #11

Anybody who speaks against choie Mar 2016 #20

so, no you don't know how condescending it is to lecture these people geek tragedy Mar 2016 #22

Blah blah blah choie Mar 2016 #24

here is a thought--maybe people can disagree with you without being morally or intellectually geek tragedy Mar 2016 #26

Has nothing to do choie Mar 2016 #28

you said they were afraid to take on the establishment and go out on a limb. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #31

That's not the same as choie Mar 2016 #34

I honestly don't think it's "Berniesplaining" ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #35

they've raised it to an art form though nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #36

+ 1 JoePhilly Mar 2016 #50

And I notice you are on the Internet ranting...though I don't know if you're in an armchair Armstead Mar 2016 #12

I'm not the one trying to pass myself off as bolder and braver than labor activists nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #21

You are ridiculous choie Mar 2016 #27

you claimed they were unwilling "to go out on a limb and go against the establishment" geek tragedy Mar 2016 #37

I sure am familiar. choie Mar 2016 #47

Do you know a single member of DC37? Or are you a psychic who can read minds geek tragedy Mar 2016 #49

I work with DC37 union members... tk2kewl Mar 2016 #29

Yep,just like the Ironworkers Union Go Vols Mar 2016 #77

a Question; did the rank and file have a say in the endorsement awake Mar 2016 #3

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #18

Yes, they voted for the leadership to represent them by working with the candidate's staff and Hoyt Mar 2016 #56

So in other words they didn't actually directly vote for the endorsement? EndElectoral Mar 2016 #70

Why have leadership if you expect the members to vote on everything. In negotiations, just have Hoyt Mar 2016 #71

To paraphrase the old adage, "Give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves." CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #6

same ones who appointed themselves fit to lecture Dolores Huerta and John Lewis geek tragedy Mar 2016 #8

That's right choie Mar 2016 #13

Right because Clinton choie Mar 2016 #14

Clinton is honest about polling. Bernie isn't. Does he tell his supporters that he poll-tested CalvinballPro Mar 2016 #25

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #38

Oh huh choie Mar 2016 #48

And it's the Clinton supporters choie Mar 2016 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #15

factually not true. only one union has made their decision that way. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #23

That can't be true ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #39

Pauline Kaelism nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #42

I had to look that one up! 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #44

it never goes out of style. geek tragedy Mar 2016 #45

Or, ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #65

They cite Glenn Greenwald to support those arguments geek tragedy Mar 2016 #66

And HA Goodman! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #68

I'm expecting Trump to do the same thing for the right nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #69

LOL ... Maybe, they'll collaborate! ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #72

Talk about arrogance...that's choie Mar 2016 #51

no, you Bernie supporters know everything geek tragedy Mar 2016 #52

Birdiebro will make them change their minds !!!! /sarcasm <--- cause this is needed around here uponit7771 Mar 2016 #17

RIP their Facebook page. Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #30

the Bros are out in force nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #33

Surprising that the union favors TPP, poverty-level wages, endless war, social security cuts, Doctor_J Mar 2016 #40

If you think insulting Sanders and his supporters and condescending to them Doctor_J Mar 2016 #41

Damn ... You're getting good mileage out of what was being told to you ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #46

More arrogance choie Mar 2016 #53

How is it arrogant to point out ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #67

They are obviously misguided and uneducated on the facts about each candidate ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #43

I'm not sure why Bernie supporters can't just say that's nice that Hillary got their support all american girl Mar 2016 #54

because many people support Sanders as a social signaling opportunity geek tragedy Mar 2016 #55

Damn, you're good!!!! and right!!!! all american girl Mar 2016 #61

Credit goes to Amanda Marcotte for diagnosing it geek tragedy Mar 2016 #62

If they are so f**king progressive, post the rank & file vote for this endorsement! Can't do it? Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #57

vast majority of unions don't do that for political endorsements, even the ones geek tragedy Mar 2016 #60

Well, one can hardly question their siding with one of TPP's creators. Orsino Mar 2016 #58

you can disagree without disparaging them nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #59

Just another example of union leadership, rather than members, going for HRC obamneycare Mar 2016 #63

welcome (back) to DU. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #64

Sounds about right. Go Vols Mar 2016 #78

But they're the "establishment"!11!! And the persuasive strategy you point out synergie Mar 2016 #73

it shows how out of touch they are from the actual activists geek tragedy Mar 2016 #75

That union is under the bus now. MineralMan Mar 2016 #74

it's all so predictable. nt geek tragedy Mar 2016 #76