2016 Postmortem

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts) Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:46 PM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Time in Senate wasted? [View all]

If you say this then you are saying helping Veterans is a waste of time. http://vetsforbernie.org/bernies-veterans-bills/

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Bernie Sanders Time in Senate wasted? [View all] Gwhittey Apr 2016 OP

No, you're not saying that. Someone else would have held that committee chair--maybe someone MADem Apr 2016 #1

these Vets disagree with you Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #3

The ones who are dead because he failed in his oversight duties agree with me. And so do the IAVA. MADem Apr 2016 #5

not ignoring it, but his record against her's Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #7

Not true. His votes paved the way for Bush's excesses. And his warmongering record is much MADem Apr 2016 #9

You don't speak for other vets anymore than I speak for the ones killed in Iraq. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #8

Bernie sent them to die in Iraq when he voted--TWICE-for regime change there. MADem Apr 2016 #11

Nice try but those votes weren't for military action, we're not stupid. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #13

Read the link--he paved the way for Bush's excesses. It's on HIS head and he never apologized. nt MADem Apr 2016 #18

I've read it and the author is a liar who thinks we should have stayed out of Bosnia. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19

LOL! MADem Apr 2016 #22

Strawman. He voted for peaceful regime change. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #23

I provided a link to the IAVA spokesperson, saying what IAVA membership thinks of him. MADem Apr 2016 #16

He doesn't speak for dead soldiers any more than you do. And to his credit he didn't even try. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #26

Right. Because the VA magically became a fucked up organization in two years; 2013-2015. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #15

He spent two years making excuses for the VA. Read the link. nt MADem Apr 2016 #17

So most of its problems are "on his head". cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #20

He admitted as much. Read the darn link! MADem Apr 2016 #21

This Vet agrees with you itsrobert Apr 2016 #27

+1,000! nt MADem Apr 2016 #32

Yeah, cuz 7 hearings just ain't enough... sheesh revbones Apr 2016 #28

Since Sanders admitted he fucked up, obviously 7 were NOT enough. nt MADem Apr 2016 #31

And while he was getting the Veterans Choice and Access bill passed, Hillary was revbones Apr 2016 #33

And the IAVA guys are saying he's a bullshitter. They were there. He wasn't. MADem Apr 2016 #34

Who mentioned an award? Which award? I mentioned hearings and legislation revbones Apr 2016 #36

Post 30. Follow the convo. Ignore the facts, you say? You're demonstrating the concept. MADem Apr 2016 #38

I believe your posts most accurately reflect the real world rock Apr 2016 #29

+1! nt MADem Apr 2016 #35

Thank you MADem for your service to both the country and to DU! Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #51

Anytime! My pleasure! nt MADem Apr 2016 #52

but he shoud just drop out cause he is a better senator than he could be as president! Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #2

Yea well I could say the same About Clinton. Gwhittey Apr 2016 #4

I think he should stay in for as long as he wants. MADem Apr 2016 #6

That bill also proves he can work with senators on both sides of the aisle. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #10

That bill is going to be undone in no time flat. MADem Apr 2016 #54

I didn't know Sanders had a drinking problem...how much of the time was he wasted? HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #12

Oh Jesus, don't give the keyboard warriers any ideas. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #24

The ridiculous is best served ridicule HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #25

Nicely done n/t Ichingcarpenter Apr 2016 #47

LOL jwirr Apr 2016 #48

Bernie Sanders Scored Victories for Years via Legislative Side Doors snowy owl Apr 2016 #14

Is this the original uncensored version? FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #50

Yes. I linked it. I'm putting it out as much as possible. It is archived at NY Times. Link works. snowy owl Apr 2016 #66

I see there's a good amount of inflated condemnation for Bernie and his time as Veterans chair. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #30

He did not "quickly" realize anything--and he has admitted, in halfhearted fashion, that he MADem Apr 2016 #37

"said Dr. Sam Foote, one of the primary whistle-blowers " Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #39

Paul Rieckhoff, the founder of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, takes issue. As do I. nt MADem Apr 2016 #40

My response to you was specific to your comment, which was, the VFW doesn't speak for you. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #41

I am not "inflating his faults." He has ACKNOWLEDGED that he fucked this up Big Time. MADem Apr 2016 #42

lol Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #43

You are (unsuccessfully, I might note) attempting to diminish the degree of his fuck-up-itude. MADem Apr 2016 #44

I'm not diminishing anything, I posted an OP with direct quotes from a primary whistle blower Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #45

How much do the "veterans group" supporting Sanders even USE the VA? MADem Apr 2016 #46

Your inflated hyperbolic condemnation falls flat against those who do support Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #49

No, it doesn't. He used the royal "we" when talking about HIS committee, that he likes to tout MADem Apr 2016 #53

uh huh....a primary whistle blower disagrees with you..many disagree with your Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #55

Well, when a new bill hits the POTUS's desk, he's gonna sign it and fix the MADem Apr 2016 #56

uh huh is right and none of that changes anything the whistle blower said about Sanders. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #57

I'm afraid your whistleblower's comments have been overtaken by events. MADem Apr 2016 #58

No, actually they haven't nor has the award and their appreciation of Bernie who has their Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #59

"People die every day. We don't know why they die." -- BS MADem Apr 2016 #60

Tell it to the primary whistle blower and all the others, including VFW Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #61

The problems Sanders "fixed" in 2015 have gotten WORSE in 2016. MADem Apr 2016 #62

Oh for crying out loud, your links do not add anything that will change the support from Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #63

YES, they do. If he fixed the problem, why is POTUS ready to sign new legislation? MADem Apr 2016 #64

Because their support has grown, not decreased since his run for president. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #65