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MADem

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1. No, you're not saying that. Someone else would have held that committee chair--maybe someone
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 03:52 PM
Apr 2016

who held more meetings than Sanders did, and might have caught all the fraud, waste and abuse sooner.

Sanders tenure as chair was a failure of oversight. He knows it, too. That's why he quietly apologized for the delays and screw ups--because HE had the power to investigate, and he didn't:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/bernie-sanders-veterans-affairs-delays/

(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders offered on Wednesday night as close to an apology as he could when pressed on why he -- as the former chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee -- waited so long to act on the burgeoning wait list scandal at the VA.

When pressed by CNN's Anderson Cooper on Sanders lack of action, the Vermont senator responded, "We should have done better."
The admission came during a CNN town hall forum in New Hampshire hosted by Cooper, who confronted Sanders with the candidate's own record.
Sanders has been criticized for his lack of action during the two years he chaired the committee, all but ignoring the government's own investigations pointing out quality of care and wait list issues at VA medical centers across the country....Veterans groups and others criticize Sanders for what they call a lack of oversight of the VA, and for at times coming to its defense in the midst of the scandal that rocked the agency in 2014.


As a retired military member who is LUCKY--and I mean LUCKY--to not have to rely on the VA for care, I wish this topic would get far more attention than it has, to date. Sanders as the Vets' Champ is a Big Honking Lie. He defended the VA when the shit was hitting the fan, putting the patients at the back of the health care bus. He only held a third of the meetings on the Senate side than the House committee did, and he ADMITS that he fell down on the job.


Many of the problems are on HIS head, because he did not do his duty.


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No, you're not saying that. Someone else would have held that committee chair--maybe someone MADem Apr 2016 #1
these Vets disagree with you Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #3
The ones who are dead because he failed in his oversight duties agree with me. And so do the IAVA. MADem Apr 2016 #5
not ignoring it, but his record against her's Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #7
Not true. His votes paved the way for Bush's excesses. And his warmongering record is much MADem Apr 2016 #9
You don't speak for other vets anymore than I speak for the ones killed in Iraq. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #8
Bernie sent them to die in Iraq when he voted--TWICE-for regime change there. MADem Apr 2016 #11
Nice try but those votes weren't for military action, we're not stupid. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #13
Read the link--he paved the way for Bush's excesses. It's on HIS head and he never apologized. nt MADem Apr 2016 #18
I've read it and the author is a liar who thinks we should have stayed out of Bosnia. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #19
LOL! MADem Apr 2016 #22
Strawman. He voted for peaceful regime change. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #23
I provided a link to the IAVA spokesperson, saying what IAVA membership thinks of him. MADem Apr 2016 #16
He doesn't speak for dead soldiers any more than you do. And to his credit he didn't even try. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #26
Right. Because the VA magically became a fucked up organization in two years; 2013-2015. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #15
He spent two years making excuses for the VA. Read the link. nt MADem Apr 2016 #17
So most of its problems are "on his head". cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #20
He admitted as much. Read the darn link! MADem Apr 2016 #21
This Vet agrees with you itsrobert Apr 2016 #27
+1,000! nt MADem Apr 2016 #32
Yeah, cuz 7 hearings just ain't enough... sheesh revbones Apr 2016 #28
Since Sanders admitted he fucked up, obviously 7 were NOT enough. nt MADem Apr 2016 #31
And while he was getting the Veterans Choice and Access bill passed, Hillary was revbones Apr 2016 #33
And the IAVA guys are saying he's a bullshitter. They were there. He wasn't. MADem Apr 2016 #34
Who mentioned an award? Which award? I mentioned hearings and legislation revbones Apr 2016 #36
Post 30. Follow the convo. Ignore the facts, you say? You're demonstrating the concept. MADem Apr 2016 #38
I believe your posts most accurately reflect the real world rock Apr 2016 #29
+1! nt MADem Apr 2016 #35
Thank you MADem for your service to both the country and to DU! Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #51
Anytime! My pleasure! nt MADem Apr 2016 #52
but he shoud just drop out cause he is a better senator than he could be as president! Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #2
Yea well I could say the same About Clinton. Gwhittey Apr 2016 #4
I think he should stay in for as long as he wants. MADem Apr 2016 #6
That bill also proves he can work with senators on both sides of the aisle. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #10
That bill is going to be undone in no time flat. MADem Apr 2016 #54
I didn't know Sanders had a drinking problem...how much of the time was he wasted? HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #12
Oh Jesus, don't give the keyboard warriers any ideas. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #24
The ridiculous is best served ridicule HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #25
Nicely done n/t Ichingcarpenter Apr 2016 #47
LOL jwirr Apr 2016 #48
Bernie Sanders Scored Victories for Years via Legislative Side Doors snowy owl Apr 2016 #14
Is this the original uncensored version? FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #50
Yes. I linked it. I'm putting it out as much as possible. It is archived at NY Times. Link works. snowy owl Apr 2016 #66
I see there's a good amount of inflated condemnation for Bernie and his time as Veterans chair. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #30
He did not "quickly" realize anything--and he has admitted, in halfhearted fashion, that he MADem Apr 2016 #37
"said Dr. Sam Foote, one of the primary whistle-blowers " Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #39
Paul Rieckhoff, the founder of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, takes issue. As do I. nt MADem Apr 2016 #40
My response to you was specific to your comment, which was, the VFW doesn't speak for you. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #41
I am not "inflating his faults." He has ACKNOWLEDGED that he fucked this up Big Time. MADem Apr 2016 #42
lol Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #43
You are (unsuccessfully, I might note) attempting to diminish the degree of his fuck-up-itude. MADem Apr 2016 #44
I'm not diminishing anything, I posted an OP with direct quotes from a primary whistle blower Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #45
How much do the "veterans group" supporting Sanders even USE the VA? MADem Apr 2016 #46
Your inflated hyperbolic condemnation falls flat against those who do support Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #49
No, it doesn't. He used the royal "we" when talking about HIS committee, that he likes to tout MADem Apr 2016 #53
uh huh....a primary whistle blower disagrees with you..many disagree with your Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #55
Well, when a new bill hits the POTUS's desk, he's gonna sign it and fix the MADem Apr 2016 #56
uh huh is right and none of that changes anything the whistle blower said about Sanders. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #57
I'm afraid your whistleblower's comments have been overtaken by events. MADem Apr 2016 #58
No, actually they haven't nor has the award and their appreciation of Bernie who has their Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #59
"People die every day. We don't know why they die." -- BS MADem Apr 2016 #60
Tell it to the primary whistle blower and all the others, including VFW Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #61
The problems Sanders "fixed" in 2015 have gotten WORSE in 2016. MADem Apr 2016 #62
Oh for crying out loud, your links do not add anything that will change the support from Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #63
YES, they do. If he fixed the problem, why is POTUS ready to sign new legislation? MADem Apr 2016 #64
Because their support has grown, not decreased since his run for president. Jefferson23 Apr 2016 #65
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