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2016 Postmortem

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Bob41213

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Sun Apr 3, 2016, 12:19 AM Apr 2016

The 30,000 deleted emails [View all]

There's been a lot of talk about the emails that have been released and the classified info that's in them, but it seems like to me what may be more important are those 30,000 "personal" emails that were deleted. I see the potential that those can be more damaging.

First, even assuming team clintonemail was fully competent in erasing those emails from the server, it sounds like there were backups they didn't know about so one would presume that the FBI got at least a decent portion of them. I suspect the wiping of the server was less than perfect and many were recovered that way as well.

I see at least 3 problems that can arise from these assuming they weren't all "personal."

First, obstruction of justice. The timeline of the deleting was fairly fishy to me. They contacted their people and had them cut the backups down to 30 days (the emails regarding "shady shit&quot then waited something like 60 days to turn over the server.

Second, those emails emails may now be subpoenaed in I think 2 FOIA lawsuits which already have pissed off judges. My guess is at least some of these contain some politically damaging comments that can be used against her. If a significant portion are not personal, I can see some more honestly issues popping up. I just see this part as being even if she is not indicted, there are going to be many more drips coming out on this. What's the penalty if she withheld info in FOIA?

Third, there may be more classified info in there. These deleted emails aren't in the released emails and it could add to the 22 top secret classified email chains we know about. Hell, if a few of these are classified, I can see that making the obstruction of justice airtight.

And I'm sure there are other things I haven't thought of. I also heard recently (for the first time) that the emails were deleted by keyword when I thought originally it was said that people read each email. That already sounds like posturing to me to cover their butts.

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The 30,000 deleted emails [View all] Bob41213 Apr 2016 OP
But they were personal krawhitham Apr 2016 #1
She said "communications" - you can text via email. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #7
Even If He Did Use E-mail - 30,000 E-Mails Between The Two Of Them?...... global1 Apr 2016 #10
everyone forgets about the "yoga classes", and the wedding emails iAZZZo Apr 2016 #11
Figure It Out... Is Hillary REALLY Telling The TRUTH On THIS? CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #23
there are reports that the FBI has already discovered that some/many of them were work-related; plus amborin Apr 2016 #2
What's the penalty for FOAI though? Bob41213 Apr 2016 #3
Well one penalty should be Gwhittey Apr 2016 #5
Indeed paulthompson Apr 2016 #4
I Mean Hillary Ahs Already PUBLICLY PERJURED Herself On Several Occassions! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #25
Hi Bob41213 welcome to DU! I agree these are the important ones. What snagglepuss Apr 2016 #6
I was not, got a link? Bob41213 Apr 2016 #8
I have a timeline entry about that too paulthompson Apr 2016 #9
This e-mail thing is absolutely unacceptable risk in a candidate. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #12
Why would delete your personal emails in the first place. passy Apr 2016 #13
Under the US archiving guidelines, each dept sets its own specific rules for what's saved HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #19
It wasn't the point I was trying to make passy Apr 2016 #20
My experience with computer records requests is limited HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #24
I gave up on this story on day 1. Are Conde Rice and Powell under investigation? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #14
They didn't have their own server stashed in their basement. They never used a private server. RiverLover Apr 2016 #16
Thank you for the quick reply! OK, gottit WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #17
Gucifer, the Romanian hacker, is in the US now for 18 months at the longest. RiverLover Apr 2016 #15
If Clinton's server wasn't secure... Califonz Apr 2016 #18
NSA does. Octafish Apr 2016 #21
Cool! Free backup service! Califonz Apr 2016 #28
That is one thing being investigated and yes, things appear to have been hacked. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #31
Surprising tack for such a ............. Darb Apr 2016 #22
I don't care if this a genuinely new person here or not. The OP is the truth. RiverLover Apr 2016 #27
You are being played. Darb Apr 2016 #30
I posted about some of this here: Jarqui Apr 2016 #26
Save us, Indictment Fairy, you're our only hope nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #29
Weren't we all supposed to be gone by Iowa? timmymoff Apr 2016 #32
no one expected Sanders to drop out. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #33
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