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2016 Postmortem

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HereSince1628

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24. My experience with computer records requests is limited
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

to compliance to 'discovery' process during a lawsuit over an alleged denial of due process in a tenure process at a university. The requests were limited by specific criteria of interest. People who had served on relevant university governance committees were directed by university council to submit documents that met the criteria. I always wondered how actual compliance could be demonstrated without make everything available for perusal.

I suspect that Clinton did the same with material her personal server with regard to Judicial Watches FOI, providing information that was limited to the details of the request. Then realizing that device which included various email accounts was about to become subject to right-wing fishing operations she went into 'risk management' mode.

The use of personal vs government computer certainly made a mess of things, but I think people are free to destroy there own property. You don't have to save emails in the same way that you must save tax records. What remains subject to doubt is how to verify that compliance to FOI requests was complete. But I think that's always a question. In this particular circumstance, because questions of proper classified information handling emerged, the private emails appear to be another rock under which items of interest might be found. That makes the destruction of the private emails look suspicious. If the FBI or other agencies have recovered the private emails, addressing suspicions might be possible. But currently what we know is some people have suspicions. But then, they often do.

With respect to what's saved as 'federal documents' for archiving, that really does appear to be up to the different government agencies with their agency heads as the final arbiter of rules for that agency. Clinton as sos was the head of an agency.

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The 30,000 deleted emails [View all] Bob41213 Apr 2016 OP
But they were personal krawhitham Apr 2016 #1
She said "communications" - you can text via email. n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #7
Even If He Did Use E-mail - 30,000 E-Mails Between The Two Of Them?...... global1 Apr 2016 #10
everyone forgets about the "yoga classes", and the wedding emails iAZZZo Apr 2016 #11
Figure It Out... Is Hillary REALLY Telling The TRUTH On THIS? CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #23
there are reports that the FBI has already discovered that some/many of them were work-related; plus amborin Apr 2016 #2
What's the penalty for FOAI though? Bob41213 Apr 2016 #3
Well one penalty should be Gwhittey Apr 2016 #5
Indeed paulthompson Apr 2016 #4
I Mean Hillary Ahs Already PUBLICLY PERJURED Herself On Several Occassions! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #25
Hi Bob41213 welcome to DU! I agree these are the important ones. What snagglepuss Apr 2016 #6
I was not, got a link? Bob41213 Apr 2016 #8
I have a timeline entry about that too paulthompson Apr 2016 #9
This e-mail thing is absolutely unacceptable risk in a candidate. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #12
Why would delete your personal emails in the first place. passy Apr 2016 #13
Under the US archiving guidelines, each dept sets its own specific rules for what's saved HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #19
It wasn't the point I was trying to make passy Apr 2016 #20
My experience with computer records requests is limited HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #24
I gave up on this story on day 1. Are Conde Rice and Powell under investigation? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #14
They didn't have their own server stashed in their basement. They never used a private server. RiverLover Apr 2016 #16
Thank you for the quick reply! OK, gottit WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #17
Gucifer, the Romanian hacker, is in the US now for 18 months at the longest. RiverLover Apr 2016 #15
If Clinton's server wasn't secure... Califonz Apr 2016 #18
NSA does. Octafish Apr 2016 #21
Cool! Free backup service! Califonz Apr 2016 #28
That is one thing being investigated and yes, things appear to have been hacked. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #31
Surprising tack for such a ............. Darb Apr 2016 #22
I don't care if this a genuinely new person here or not. The OP is the truth. RiverLover Apr 2016 #27
You are being played. Darb Apr 2016 #30
I posted about some of this here: Jarqui Apr 2016 #26
Save us, Indictment Fairy, you're our only hope nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #29
Weren't we all supposed to be gone by Iowa? timmymoff Apr 2016 #32
no one expected Sanders to drop out. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #33
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