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synergie

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28. We're still waiting for Bernei to tell us what his actual plans are, or any BS
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:36 PM
Apr 2016

supporter to explain how he plans to achieve anything, but all that they seem to come up with is personal abuse, ranting against the confederacy and right wing smears about how evil she is.

I have no heard any critique of her actual policy positions, nor any comparisons to his. Those who have actually done the work, see her with workable plans and policies weighed against nothing of substance.

Why not admit that BS doesn't have any substance, that it's all just rhetoric and with no grasp on how reality works? Even his own finances and choices made are pragmatic and don't mesh well with the things he says. I mean, it's as if BS supporters truly are ignorant of how reality works in general or they truly believe that the Presidency has powers that it does not, and that little birds and magic waves of the hand will somehow address foreign policy realities, and domestic issues, and somehow create a single payer plan that hasn't been thought through, much less fleshed out. Is this the reason that instead of contrasting plans and policies, the BSers have been using right wing smears, character assassinations based on long debunked lies, and fresh new ones made up by the campaign?

Perhaps this lack off a compelling argument for Bernie, and this fondness of personal attacks from right wing sources which all apart with the least bit of research is WHY Bernie can't actually win voters, why he's losing in the pledged delegate race and the Superdelegates, who actually understand his weakness on policy and are familiar with his failure to actually effectively DO anything?

Accusing your opponents of your own flaws is easy, addressing your own deficiencies and the reams of evidence that show how this has been a problem for the BS camp really might make your scolding a bit more credible, what homework have you done, and why has it left so many supposed supporters of Bernie with nothing but right wing smears, and racist and misogynistic attacks? Why can't they argue FOR their candidate, rather than AGAINST his opponent? Do you truly have nothing here other than the name calling, the projection and the inappropriate attacks?

Take a good long look around that glass enclosure you're standing in before you throw stones.

Bernie is hoist on his own petard, here. Some homework on anyone's part would have made that apparent, but for some reason no one has bothered to do that. One wonders why.

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really?.... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #1
He said that he is Socialist in this clip Yavin4 Apr 2016 #6
Oops. I guess we know exactly where the desperation is coming from and we synergie Apr 2016 #10
There are a number of countries in Europe that are or have been governed by socialist parties. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #22
Seems like all the millionaires and billionaires of "socialistic-leaning" countries like to hide Jitter65 Apr 2016 #104
American ones do too. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #105
Democratic Socialist... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #29
At the :23 mark in my clip, he states flatly: "I am a Socialist". Yavin4 Apr 2016 #32
Nice red baiting there nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #69
McCarthy called Lordquinton Apr 2016 #34
I'm just playing you what he said. Yavin4 Apr 2016 #36
What's wrong with what he said? Lordquinton Apr 2016 #55
Well Said! Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #12
I'm still waiting elljay Apr 2016 #14
We're still waiting for Bernei to tell us what his actual plans are, or any BS synergie Apr 2016 #28
Deflect much elljay Apr 2016 #53
What positions? Fuddnik Apr 2016 #65
Why yes, you do deflect quite a lot. synergie Apr 2016 #106
Right from his website on the issues: Amimnoch Apr 2016 #40
yeah, it's troll bait... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #48
It's not troll bait Lazy Daisy Apr 2016 #113
Laughable... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #116
He says about a dozen times a day that he's anti "Wall Street". Just about every appearance..... George II Apr 2016 #62
LMAO... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #68
Desperation? NastyRiffraff Apr 2016 #85
I got my cake bravenak Apr 2016 #2
Wow, total inability to perceive nuance whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #3
Ignoring nuance means you can pretend you don't notice it Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #15
Uh huh. He might want to learn how to inject some nuance into his rhetoric synergie Apr 2016 #16
Bernie Sanders supporters talking about the inability to perceive nuance is almost as bad geek tragedy Apr 2016 #23
I see OPs like this and one that pops in my mind is the following movie clip... TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #25
This mythology Apr 2016 #49
And then there were those threads accusing him of being terrible for having so little polly7 Apr 2016 #57
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #4
I don't see how this is bad if anything it's the opposite Joob Apr 2016 #5
Ummm, you do know that if he made money off of these corporations, his investment made the Amimnoch Apr 2016 #42
Yes I do what's wrong with capitalism? You should be happy.. Joob Apr 2016 #51
Posting the work of people with shit-tier critical thinking skills doesn't help. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #7
It's like HRC's line about paying for Donald Trump's kid to go to college loyalsister Apr 2016 #73
The writer of that article is either agenda-driven...or a simpleton. Kalidurga Apr 2016 #76
Indeed. "C: both" should be an option. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #79
Marcus Johnson needs to sit down with Bernie and find out what Bernie iss about. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #8
Lenin drove a Rolls Royce, right? ericson00 Apr 2016 #9
Must be today's talking point from Camp Weathervane. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #11
This shit is absurd Cal Carpenter Apr 2016 #13
Unbelievable, actually. polly7 Apr 2016 #26
a real socialist should invest in chickens and twigs renate Apr 2016 #97
Its called being a fucking hypocrite. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #17
how dare he have a fucking 401k. yodermon Apr 2016 #21
He needs to release his Schedule A, and his tax returns at least since he's been in the Senate. MADem Apr 2016 #115
That's called a desperate fucking lie. senz Apr 2016 #33
Exactly. It wouldn't be so bad if the core of his campaign wasn't against the very Amimnoch Apr 2016 #44
He's standing up for people who've invested their money ... against fraud, dishonesty, polly7 Apr 2016 #47
Ignorance. Whoosh! Right over your head. panader0 Apr 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Stand and Fight Apr 2016 #18
same reason we all are ibegurpard Apr 2016 #19
Broad-based mutual funds. They have to resort to attacking his broad-based mutual funds, yodermon Apr 2016 #20
I was this thread would die - it is ignorant Retirement funds invest . . . snowy owl Apr 2016 #24
Why is Hillary Clinton fucking OWNED by Wall Street? senz Apr 2016 #27
He is against FRAUD on Wall Street. He is against DEREGULATION of Wall Street. He isn't against Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #30
So, why did he vote for deregulation? synergie Apr 2016 #37
Oh jeez. Yup you are right. He's a hypocrite. He should keep his money in a mattress. Case closed Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #43
How about investing into funds that aren't invested in the things he's against? Amimnoch Apr 2016 #45
Read Post 38. It's mind numbing to argue this. He's not an investor. He doesn't pick and choose Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #50
No, but he does select which funds his $$ goes into. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #71
They really don't get why this hypocrisy is so funny, do they? synergie Apr 2016 #108
Or he could something less extreme and invest in funds that match his synergie Apr 2016 #60
Right, he should only invest in wind energy companies beedle Apr 2016 #70
Those are the kinds of moronic accusations that Bernie has been making, synergie Apr 2016 #109
Admit it beedle Apr 2016 #111
You mean when Hillary's chief economic adviser helped sneak it into an Omnibus spending bill? think Apr 2016 #54
His 401K contains mutual funds that owns, buys & sells stocks, therefore, Bernie has a vested Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #31
seriously? what's he supposed to do, lakeguy Apr 2016 #35
Or he could do what student activists have been asking their institutions to do and synergie Apr 2016 #63
This is also technically not true inchhigh Apr 2016 #38
You might want to post this information as an OP Armstead Apr 2016 #52
So you're saying his money is not TECHNICALLY not invested in funds that synergie Apr 2016 #67
Ridiculous straw man jfern Apr 2016 #100
That's not what that word means, learn it first, and then try to apply. synergie Apr 2016 #107
It's exactly what it means jfern Apr 2016 #110
Have you never heard of a 401K before? jillan Apr 2016 #39
David Brock must be scraping the bottom of the barrell for this one revbones Apr 2016 #41
Why do you guys think that David Brock is some omnipotent entitity? synergie Apr 2016 #58
Yes, I'm assuming he has a lot to do with the more stupid talking points. revbones Apr 2016 #84
This is what it's come to? Goblinmonger Apr 2016 #46
Yes flobee1 Apr 2016 #72
Now I KNOW they've got nothing bad on the guy mainer Apr 2016 #56
Because he's not a Commie. Spread it far and wide. mainer Apr 2016 #61
Since Bernie thinks there is so much fraud in treestar Apr 2016 #64
Bernie is a Corporatist!!!! Stallion Apr 2016 #66
He's invested because if you don't want to retire at the poverty line, that's what you have to do. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #74
What nonsense. n/t alarimer Apr 2016 #75
David? David Brock? Is that you? jmg257 Apr 2016 #77
campaign rhetoric contradicted by personal actions? From Sir Good-at-Heart?? Oh my!! Bill USA Apr 2016 #78
Critical thinking skills are sadly enough in short supply. Autumn Apr 2016 #80
Obviously PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #81
LOL. OMG, BERNIE HAS A 401K!!!!!!!! mhatrw Apr 2016 #82
Who cares? I also have some retirement money in mutual funds and support Bernie jfern Apr 2016 #83
Why invest it there though if they want to steal it? treestar Apr 2016 #88
Because savings accounts are paying next to no interest, grntuscarora Apr 2016 #89
But the point is that treestar Apr 2016 #90
I can't speak for Bernie, grntuscarora Apr 2016 #95
Wouldn't a person who invested in a fraud treestar Apr 2016 #98
Fine, whatever you say. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #99
That seems kind of non responsive treestar Apr 2016 #102
One more time. grntuscarora Apr 2016 #103
We're talking about a tiny fraction of the mutual fund jfern Apr 2016 #91
where is the rest of the mutual fund from? treestar Apr 2016 #92
What are you even talking about? jfern Apr 2016 #93
What are you talking about? treestar Apr 2016 #94
k&r DesertRat Apr 2016 #86
My lord, he has a retirement plan nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #87
! frylock Apr 2016 #96
...and? Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #101
Jeeze.. thank you for this, synergie Cha Apr 2016 #112
Fascinating Hekate Apr 2016 #114
K&R mcar Apr 2016 #117
Good article DesertRat Apr 2016 #118
Good spot light Sheepshank Apr 2016 #119
You're upset that he owns stock? gollygee Apr 2016 #120
I understand it's hard to know the difference between a 401(k) and a Bankster jillan Apr 2016 #121
Dude! TheFarseer Apr 2016 #122
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