2016 Postmortem

imagine2015

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51. Why Many Super Delegates Will Abandon Hillary At The Convention

Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:19 PM

Apr 2016

As I wrote back on Mach 24th:

"If Hillary can't get the number of elected (pledged) delegates needed to win the nomination and the polls continue to show Sanders is doing much better against the Republican presidential candidate, the super delegates will abandon her in droves.

Especially those in states that Sanders won in primaries.

Democratic office holders don't want to go down with her in defeat in the General Election. They will get off that sinking ship and get
on the Bernie lifeboat."

And, others will follow the wishes of their voters and support whichever candidate won their state primary.

It would become an "open" convention.

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Weaver: Bernie Will Win an Open Convention [View all] firebrand80 Apr 2016 OP

Just wait til the Superdelegates get to know him. KMOD Apr 2016 #1

LOL, nice one nt firebrand80 Apr 2016 #2

So your excuse is that Party Leaders are too ignorant of Bernie Sanders to make an informed choice? brooklynite Apr 2016 #12

I think that was snark. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #16

yes. it was snark. KMOD Apr 2016 #18

No, not at all. KMOD Apr 2016 #21

the op was snark, but you actually had a good point Sheepshank Apr 2016 #69

Apparently the BS supporters are swarming and insulting Super Delegates already Sheepshank Apr 2016 #68

Not going to happen. Hillary has more votes and pledged delegates. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #3

Personally, I think the party is already in tatters artislife Apr 2016 #8

No, not at all rock Apr 2016 #76

...that's right...that's right. artislife Apr 2016 #86

He Must Believe in Santa Claus and Easter Bunny Too Stallion Apr 2016 #4

Clap harder, Sanders supporters. Tinkerbell needs you to clap harder! nt CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #5

I Think I Can-I Think I Can! Stallion Apr 2016 #9

Now THAT was funny leftynyc Apr 2016 #40

Perhaps being tied to the world money laundering schemes???? maybe? ya think? ViseGrip Apr 2016 #6

Why would we have an open convention? Agschmid Apr 2016 #7

Will of the people, Bernie! OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #10

To Weaver: Dude...there are only two candidates. MineralMan Apr 2016 #11

The "Democrats Abroad" have 8 unpledge delegates with a 1/2 vote each SFnomad Apr 2016 #25

I think what he meant was that firebrand80 Apr 2016 #28

Maybe it will work like King Solomon and they can cut one of the delegates* in half so they can be FSogol Apr 2016 #47

I suspect that the margin will be somewhat larger than 1. MineralMan Apr 2016 #61

LOL, Math! FSogol Apr 2016 #71

Math. Yup. MineralMan Apr 2016 #72

Yes, Super delegates are Democratic governors, senators, House members and the rest of the Trust Buster Apr 2016 #13

Democratic Socialist. morningfog Apr 2016 #44

Finally Somebody Gets It Stallion Apr 2016 #62

Recent polls show that the majority of Americans LIKE socialism. Peace Patriot Apr 2016 #74

KNR amborin Apr 2016 #14

He's predicting an exact tie in pledged delegates? #berniemath nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #15

The total number of pledged delegates is an odd number. MineralMan Apr 2016 #23

Moveable feast, that campaign team is nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #24

Saying one wouldn't have a majority of pledged delegates is dumb. morningfog Apr 2016 #45

putting the best blush on it, he's saying no one will have enough pledged delegates geek tragedy Apr 2016 #48

Yep. That is what he was trying to say, but he botched it. morningfog Apr 2016 #50

Probably because it's still an awkward argument to make. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #56

I don't know exactly. morningfog Apr 2016 #59

What's weird is that this seems to be targeted towards the political reporters geek tragedy Apr 2016 #60

HRC is winning pledged delegates, super delegates and popular vote Iliyah Apr 2016 #17

That only matters if Secretary Clinton is trying to "steal" the nomination SFnomad Apr 2016 #19

Now who is trying to use super delegates to grab the nomination? KingFlorez Apr 2016 #20

I don't see how neither candidate ends up with a majority of the pledged delegates. DanTex Apr 2016 #22

O'Malley has zero pledged delegates. MineralMan Apr 2016 #26

Thanks. So that makes a situation where neither H nor B have a majority impossible. DanTex Apr 2016 #30

Exactly. There will be 4051 pledged delegates. MineralMan Apr 2016 #67

There are just under 720 Superdelegates Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #27

And if Hillary wins, athena Apr 2016 #29

Bernie supporter were up in arms months ago firebrand80 Apr 2016 #33

It's still not claar that she will win Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #35

I remember Sanders cheerleaders claiming that if Secretary Clinton "stole" the nomination SFnomad Apr 2016 #32

Some people couldn't care less about the will of the people or democracy. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #36

If you think it possible that SD's could steal the nomination for Bernie they could for Hillary also Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #37

That is true ... but the Sanders cheerleaders clearly stated SFnomad Apr 2016 #39

I spoke to all this elsewhere on this thread Tom Rinaldo Apr 2016 #57

It's actually pretty clear who will have the most delegates SFnomad Apr 2016 #58

Most Sanders Supporters Have Made Clear They Don't Care a Damn About the Democratic Party Stallion Apr 2016 #63

To say that neither candidate can get a majority without them is obfuscation jcgoldie Apr 2016 #54

It will never get to an open convention ... Secretary Clinton will have it locked up by then. n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #31

How will there be an open convention? Gothmog Apr 2016 #34

There won't be. This is just bluster to back up their "until the convention" promise geek tragedy Apr 2016 #38

I often wonder.... WiffenPoof Apr 2016 #41

Perhaps he should have had a better plan right out of the gate Tarc Apr 2016 #43

You make an excellent point... WiffenPoof Apr 2016 #46

I don't think "momentum" is real firebrand80 Apr 2016 #53

WTF? Is the Sanders campaign trying to destroy the Dems' chances in the GE? Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #42

His campaign needs an argument to stay in firebrand80 Apr 2016 #49

Why Many Super Delegates Will Abandon Hillary At The Convention imagine2015 Apr 2016 #51

If Hillary Clinton does not have the primary votes to cinch the nomination, perhaps PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #52

and maybe monkeys will fly out of Jeff Weaver's butt. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #65

Suit yourself to think of Jeff Weaver's butt. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #84

if we're looking at a disaster scenario, probably Biden parachutes in. nt geek tragedy Apr 2016 #85

Ummm ... KPN Apr 2016 #55

Bernie, Tad and Jeff are all in desperation mode. How low will they go? Alfresco Apr 2016 #64

Would like your opinions WhenTheLeveeBreaks Apr 2016 #66

Obama couldn't make such a deal firebrand80 Apr 2016 #70

Don't be naive WhenTheLeveeBreaks Apr 2016 #75

Translation: I watch so much TV, I can't tell reality from fiction! FSogol Apr 2016 #77

I'm not sure where you are saying I'm comparing Obama to Nixon, but WhenTheLeveeBreaks Apr 2016 #80

3 things that could sway a super delegate to switch to bernie thesquanderer Apr 2016 #73

Number two is the big one Fozzledick Apr 2016 #83

These berniebots are delusional! beaglelover Apr 2016 #78

Oh come on, play along WhenTheLeveeBreaks Apr 2016 #79

I support Bernie, but think it is a mistake... pat_k Apr 2016 #81

Delusion sets in at Camp Sanders Gothmog Apr 2016 #82