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beedle

(1,235 posts)
33. Would she also have a plan
Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:03 PM
Apr 2016

to start her own little country on a small Island in the Pacific?

Republicans hate her, Independents hate her, now she wants the democratic left to hate her as well.

If she does this, the votes she gets in the primaries will be about all she gets in the GE.

Kim Kardashian could run as an independent and beat Hillary if that's the plan.

Independents are a bigger group than either Republicans or Democratic voters. Many of those Independents are only involved because of Bernie ... they wouldn't be involved in the first place if he wasn't running, and once he's out, especially based on a 'scorched earth' strategy by Hillary, they are not likely to vote for Hillary. I assume they will largely not vote, but it's possible that a good number of them will indeed decide to 'scorch the earth' right back at Hillary and vote for the Republican.

And I know, that will piss you off and cause you to call them all kinds of names, but many of these independents are independent because they don't see a lick of difference between the two parties ... they want upheaval and real change, and if they can't get sensible progressive chance with Sanders they might just decide that even 'bad change' will at least cause the comfortable 'centrist' Dems and Repubs to feel some of the pain they are feeling.

And given the attitudes of Clinton and many of her supporters, one can hardly blame them ... Yeah, it may make things worst, but I guess if they can't convince the establishment types to share the 'good times', they can at least force them to share in the 'bad times'.

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wow, way to solicit support for your loser candidate. n/t Merryland Apr 2016 #1
sometimes you have to win ugly kennetha Apr 2016 #21
IMO, you're just reacting to a series of Hortensis Apr 2016 #27
I hear ya' kennetha Apr 2016 #32
Others will be doing that. And both candidates Hortensis Apr 2016 #54
It is? jonestonesusa Apr 2016 #62
Let's see, little white States... jonestonesusa Apr 2016 #61
I really want to see what an angrier more vile Hillary Clinton looks like. Red Oak Apr 2016 #34
well taht is a way to win the nminationand lose the election - "good job" - Karl Rove hollysmom Apr 2016 #49
What does that make Sanders if he's losing to a loser? mythology Apr 2016 #46
"Good riddance to bad rubbish" is the adage that applies here. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #2
And just what the actual fuck does Ron Paul have to do with this? morningfog Apr 2016 #37
+1 CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #45
The only problem is that she doesn't know how to do the "take down" part. morningfog Apr 2016 #3
well some would MFM008 Apr 2016 #4
sad, isn't it? DesertFlower Apr 2016 #8
Those kind are beyond reach kennetha Apr 2016 #16
Fuck this shit. Please proceed with your scorched earth politics. frylock Apr 2016 #5
The Clinton's cheat Politicalboi Apr 2016 #6
Good luck with that. dogman Apr 2016 #7
The plan is to actually engage Sanders kennetha Apr 2016 #13
She just shoots her own feet off. Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #9
I bet most Sanders supporters kennetha Apr 2016 #11
It is cooler & wiser heads choosing to courageously reject her. Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #30
Sulk -- more likely nichomachus Apr 2016 #10
I think Donald Trump or Ted Cruz kennetha Apr 2016 #14
Just can't avoid the snark, can you? nichomachus Apr 2016 #22
Well, once in office kennetha Apr 2016 #25
How many more dead American troops bvf Apr 2016 #57
......... Land of Enchantment Apr 2016 #12
Let us look at her new thing she is trying to "take down" Sanders with Gwhittey Apr 2016 #15
She didn't say he supports Bush kennetha Apr 2016 #18
Her problem is she lies, and lies, Voice for Peace Apr 2016 #38
so she's not "inevitable" anymore? What happened to her "insurmountable lead" ? GreatGazoo Apr 2016 #17
That's why it's time to stop farting around and take down Bernie. kennetha Apr 2016 #19
god forbid this not be the coronationthat proves it is her turn? hollysmom Apr 2016 #50
Your post is exactly the reason why nobody likes her or wants her anywhere around the White House ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #20
I'm not advocating win at all cost kennetha Apr 2016 #23
So basically you'd risk losing the ge to get your candidate Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #28
I have more faith in Bernie supporters kennetha Apr 2016 #29
I disagree. Bernie supporters have ethics and core values which drive them. Pulling the lever ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #44
She cannot win the White House without an overwhelming number of Bernie supporters. ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #40
Help me out. Wisconsin didn't matter #dothemath Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #24
Wisconsin does matter kennetha Apr 2016 #26
Yeah okay, movemens don't get put down. I hope she doesn't realize this so it hurts her more anyways Joob Apr 2016 #31
you are right, the movement won't get put down. kennetha Apr 2016 #35
Would she also have a plan beedle Apr 2016 #33
I don't know kennetha Apr 2016 #41
you need to get out of your bubble more ibegurpard Apr 2016 #55
There ya go! "Real democrats" don't give a shit about winning elections. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #36
Well, we'll see. kennetha Apr 2016 #39
In aviation parlance, this post is what's known as a "smokin' hole". cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #42
Go right ahead but don't post how upset you are that Trump is our new President. jillan Apr 2016 #43
It's like teams that play prevent defense when they are ahead by a couple of scores kennetha Apr 2016 #47
I plan to vote for whoever is the nominee...But not if she follows your advice Armstead Apr 2016 #48
She needs to leave the race, before her e-mail woes, polarizing quality, and lack of support highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #51
Your candidate will never represent the people, she cannot because she's JRLeft Apr 2016 #52
And THIS is how her campaign ends. dchill Apr 2016 #53
More Hillary-ous Comedy! TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #56
It's funny that she and her campaign still think dishonest smears will help her Z_California Apr 2016 #58
Yet Bernie needs to "watch his tone".... Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #59
Yeah - that worked so well in 2008. hopeforchange2008 Apr 2016 #60
Yes, it's the right move now, if not sooner. She's going to win, time to tie up the losse ends now. Lil Missy Apr 2016 #63
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