2016 Postmortem

kaleckim

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45. LOL! "Far left"

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 05:17 PM

Apr 2016

Can you name a position Sanders takes that is outside the mainstream of the entire country (not just the left)? Can you cite a poll to prove it? Nope. That is exactly what I am talking about. You don't seem to realize how out of step Clinton and people like yourself are. On issue after issue, Sanders is right in the middle of popular opinion. If he is "far left", so is the general public on the actual issues.

Can you answer my question though regarding her stances on issues impacting the LGBT community and compare that to Sanders? If you care about those issues, can you explain why you support her when she didn't support marriage equality until 3 years ago, when it was already beyond safe to take the position (thanks to the work others did)?

She does far worse, by the way, with independents, which is part of the reason why Sanders is where he is. You are incapable of motivating people to show up and to give a damn, so good luck with everyone outside your party (independents now rival your party in size and support Sanders more than any other candidate in either party, by a mile) when it comes to the general election.

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Hillary and her supporters... [View all] SHRED Apr 2016 OP

It's her turn dammit! To heck with the party! peacebird Apr 2016 #1

They'll pick up the pieces later The Blue Flower Apr 2016 #2

We do you expect? No fight? lol nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #84

Obama fought in 2008, but he did not fight lowdown. merrily Apr 2016 #105

She's absolutely right. DanTex Apr 2016 #3

Fracking... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #10

And her support for the Keystone XL pipeline nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #12

Which, by the way, leaked in South Dakota this week hollysmom Apr 2016 #21

I saw that riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #26

Different pipeline but real problem. nt WhiteTara Apr 2016 #42

not yet, they don't want to build it anymore but they want the US to pay them billions of our money hollysmom Apr 2016 #51

The pipeline may be dead, but the lawsuit is very much alive. Thanks to NAFTA. JeffHead Apr 2016 #64

NG burns cleaner than coal, which is why it was part of Obama's climate agenda. DanTex Apr 2016 #13

HRC 'pivot'... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #24

You understand that the "aspect" that affects the climate are emissions. DanTex Apr 2016 #43

And there is it... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #48

Yes, less climate impact is a good thing. DanTex Apr 2016 #49

Your intellectual dishonesty is showing again... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #56

Because I'm in favor of less climate impact? DanTex Apr 2016 #57

I defend climate... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #61

You're defending coal. Which is hilarious. DanTex Apr 2016 #63

Point out where I 'support coal'.... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #66

This entire thread, when you're denying that NG produces less CO2. DanTex Apr 2016 #67

my post relates to HRC and fracking... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #68

And then you ignore the fact that the reason that Obama pushed for NG is to DanTex Apr 2016 #69

yeah.. right... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #73

Well, that is the reason. It's not some conspiracy to screw the climate. DanTex Apr 2016 #74

Bwahahahahahahaha.... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #77

The key fact here is that NG burns cleaner than coal. DanTex Apr 2016 #78

Windmills are cleaner than coal and NG. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #103

Oh boy... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #93

She is not strong on the environment. WDIM Apr 2016 #38

good luck selling that line of swill TheSarcastinator Apr 2016 #54

PUMAs RobertEarl Apr 2016 #4

Don't you get it? nichomachus Apr 2016 #5

Anyone who would vote for the GOP KMOD Apr 2016 #11

I'm not advocating it -- just predicting what would happen nichomachus Apr 2016 #16

The fact that you said you'd settle for a sane GOP moderate, KMOD Apr 2016 #18

You obviously misread that... MoonchildCA Apr 2016 #23

Clearly. Clinton supporters seem to have a special penchant Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #82

It's just like 2000 CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #25

Yup. KMOD Apr 2016 #32

I cant see a difference between Hillary and Neo-cons WDIM Apr 2016 #52

I see why you can't see the difference. KMOD Apr 2016 #55

Im repeating the RW policies she supports WDIM Apr 2016 #62

Geez, get a clue. The right wing doesn't claim Hillary as an ally on foreign policy--but she is. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #109

"Not a dimes worth of difference"? HMMM-where have I heard that before? Is that you Ralph? redstateblues Apr 2016 #81

This board, as I understand it, is for discussing, developing & advocating Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #80

Translation, you might vote GOP if the candidate is moderate enough? Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #34

When his supporters say they won't vote for her under any circumstances, their votes msanthrope Apr 2016 #6

I don't feel that people like yourself kaleckim Apr 2016 #19

Yeah, okay....look, I've been going to party meetings for 25 years. msanthrope Apr 2016 #30

LOL! "Far left" kaleckim Apr 2016 #45

Guns.. his Brady votes put him outside most New Yorkers.nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #47

His record from the NRA kaleckim Apr 2016 #58

I never believe anything a right wing source has to say. Why do you? mt msanthrope Apr 2016 #86

Do you really think people will fall for that? kaleckim Apr 2016 #116

Points very well made, there, thank you Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #87

That is illogical and foolish. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #110

Look in a mirror. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #7

+1 CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #28

maybe post a link where Bernie goes off like this? SHRED Apr 2016 #36

The old idea that we do not have anywhere else to go which jwirr Apr 2016 #8

People have a place to go... kaleckim Apr 2016 #22

Exactly.Your predictions for a decade from now are very jwirr Apr 2016 #31

That is such a good analysis dr60omg Apr 2016 #33

Yes, we are hurting... malokvale77 Apr 2016 #115

Bernie Sanders and his supporters KMOD Apr 2016 #9

Remind me again who said SheilaT Apr 2016 #14

Well since he can't seem to understand the delegate math, KMOD Apr 2016 #27

Bernie is not the one saying he'll SheilaT Apr 2016 #39

He's not a Democrat. He's made that very clear. KMOD Apr 2016 #46

would you stop already with the childish "he's not a democrat" shit? no one cares anymore. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #112

Fine. I don't care for his narrow, shallow KMOD Apr 2016 #113

there ya go,do you feel free now?? no more labels!! wendylaroux Apr 2016 #114

Which smears kaleckim Apr 2016 #29

"pulling your party to the right" - quoting you. KMOD Apr 2016 #41

RW?! kaleckim Apr 2016 #53

It's always the same thing with folks like you, KMOD Apr 2016 #59

Like? kaleckim Apr 2016 #76

Very pathetic. n/t Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #90

And he is doing it by polling better than Hillary against the GOP candidates LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #35

The only reason he is polling better in some polls KMOD Apr 2016 #44

"25% of his supporters can't tell the difference between a Republican and a Democrat." Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #70

100% of Hillary's supporters fun n serious Apr 2016 #85

... kaleckim Apr 2016 #117

Sure, and 50% of Hillary's supporters can't tell a Third Way faux Democrat from a real one LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #118

Projection worthy of the Bell & Howell museum. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #71

Is it possible leftynyc Apr 2016 #15

Video conveniently skips as she's in the middle of criticizing the youth DebDoo Apr 2016 #17

dang SHRED Apr 2016 #40

I repeat: her top donors would rather lose to the republicans than win with Sanders n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #20

Her top donors ARE Republicans LondonReign2 Apr 2016 #37

Yep. More in it for them. dchill Apr 2016 #50

I believe that as well. merrily Apr 2016 #107

But Sanders supporters are pure as the driven snow? mythology Apr 2016 #60

Yes, we are pure as the driven snow. We have morals, ethics and want what's right all Americans ThePhilosopher04 Apr 2016 #91

They'll unify the party Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #65

Stop the blackmail upaloopa Apr 2016 #72

+1 treestar Apr 2016 #83

Stop the entitlement mentality Mnpaul Apr 2016 #89

Hillary is always on the wrong side of history... at first. Joob Apr 2016 #75

I always remembered primaries being over pretty quickly TheFarseer Apr 2016 #79

Yes, only one side does this. Dem2 Apr 2016 #88

Correct SHRED Apr 2016 #98

That's funny! Dem2 Apr 2016 #106

When 1/3 of Bernie's supporters say they won't vote for Clinton, I say 'Fuck 'em'. beaglelover Apr 2016 #92

good for you that's the spirit azurnoir Apr 2016 #99

You want my honest opinion PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #94

Pot, the kettle is calling. Beacool Apr 2016 #95

I've never heard Bernie go after Hillary supporters SHRED Apr 2016 #96

Plenty of his supporters are annoying enough to turn off her supporters. Beacool Apr 2016 #97

This is true SHRED Apr 2016 #100

Right! jcgoldie Apr 2016 #101

Don't feel SORRY for me! PatrickforO Apr 2016 #102

It's a brazen power move reminiscent of a destructive relationship RufusTFirefly Apr 2016 #104

I'm for the human race and the common citizen mmonk Apr 2016 #108

not good for the party at all RazBerryBeret Apr 2016 #111