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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: More Maddow Hackory [View all]Gothmog
(143,998 posts)56. Facts really scare you-that is sad
Sanders is not raising money for down ballot candidate which will hurt him with super delegates http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/clinton-sanders-differ-down-ballot-democrats
Yesterday afternoon, meanwhile, Hillary Clintons campaign announced its fundraising tally over the same period, and though Sanders hasnt matched his rival in votes or wins, we were reminded once more that hes easily defeating her when it comes to dollars in the bank. But the Clinton campaigns press release added something Sanders did not:
The first part matters, of course, to the extent that Sanders fundraising juggernaut is eclipsing Clintons operation, but its the second part that stands out. How much money did Sanders raise for the DNC and state parties in March? Actually, zero. For the quarter, the total was also zero.
And while the typical voter probably doesnt know or care about candidates work on behalf of down-ballot allies, this speaks to a key difference between Sanders and Clinton: the former is positioning himself as the leader of a revolution; the latter is positioning herself as the leader of the Democratic Party. For Sanders, it means raising amazing amounts of money to advance his ambitions; for Clinton, it means also raising money to help other Democratic candidates.
As Rachel noted on the show last night, the former Secretary of State has begun emphasizing this angle while speaking to voters on the campaign trail. Here, for example, is Clinton addressing a Wisconsin audience over the weekend:
The message wasnt subtle: Clinton is a Democrat and Sanders isnt; Clinton is working to help Democrats up and down the ballot and Sanders isnt.
Hillary Clinton raised about $29.5 million for her primary campaign during March. That amount brings the first quarter total to nearly $75 million raised for the primary, beating the campaigns goal of $50 million by about 50 percent. [Hillary For America] begins April with nearly $29 million on hand.
Clinton raised an additional $6.1 million for the DNC and state parties during the month of March, bringing the total for the quarter to about $15 million [emphasis added].
The first part matters, of course, to the extent that Sanders fundraising juggernaut is eclipsing Clintons operation, but its the second part that stands out. How much money did Sanders raise for the DNC and state parties in March? Actually, zero. For the quarter, the total was also zero.
And while the typical voter probably doesnt know or care about candidates work on behalf of down-ballot allies, this speaks to a key difference between Sanders and Clinton: the former is positioning himself as the leader of a revolution; the latter is positioning herself as the leader of the Democratic Party. For Sanders, it means raising amazing amounts of money to advance his ambitions; for Clinton, it means also raising money to help other Democratic candidates.
As Rachel noted on the show last night, the former Secretary of State has begun emphasizing this angle while speaking to voters on the campaign trail. Here, for example, is Clinton addressing a Wisconsin audience over the weekend:
Im also a Democrat and have been a proud Democrat all my adult life. I think thats kind of important if were selecting somebody to be the Democratic nominee of the Democratic Party.
But what it also means is that I know how important to elect state legislatures, to elect Democratic governors, to elect a Democratic Senate and House of Representatives.
The message wasnt subtle: Clinton is a Democrat and Sanders isnt; Clinton is working to help Democrats up and down the ballot and Sanders isnt.
Super Delegates will be taking this difference into account in deciding which candidate is best for the party
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Didn't Jane Sanders JUST come on her show and debunk all that nonsense...
GeorgiaPeanuts
Apr 2016
#2
I heard Jane say that when Rachel asked her if Bernie was helping raise money for Dems down ballot
Samantha
Apr 2016
#16
you'd have to speak over a hundred languages and follow the media in as many countries
carolinayellowdog
Apr 2016
#84
You say that but PROVE it. Hillary's $18 Million "Victory Fund" could be spent helping her campaign
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#33
Me too: Grayson, Feingod, Edwards and Canova! We think for ourselves and select carefully!
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#42
I saw that! After watching her last nite to watch her interview with Jane I decided to watch tonite.
jillan
Apr 2016
#24
Repeats and repeats and repeats...I guess those who still listen need repeating!
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#38
She puts out at least 2 facebook post a day that elevate Hill and demean Bernie
Sky Masterson
Apr 2016
#26
Her topic was fund raising for the Dems down-ticket--NOT how Bernie is raising
riversedge
Apr 2016
#27
Maddow's focus was on he promise Sanders made to fund raise, which he has NOT kept-that is the
riversedge
Apr 2016
#32
So she did do a hack job? You're easy. Who has Hillary helped? You don't know, do you?
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#39
RM=huge ego. Upstart who made it big...but her #s are erratic. Low impact on voters.See Ratings here
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#28
MSNBC is viewed by older, Establishment Dems. Their talking heads tell them what they want to hear.
reformist2
Apr 2016
#35
The Hill campaign wants to spin to make her mega-donors good and Bernie's broad support bad
GreatGazoo
Apr 2016
#29
She did have on a reporter (embedded? ) in Sander's campaign and she brought up the DSCC. Maddow
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#34
Thanks. People forgive RM her dishonesty. It is all about loyalty regardless of honesty.
snowy owl
Apr 2016
#40
A not completely true story. That's called being disengenuous. It's not journalism but propaganda.nt
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#45
This is specifically addressing Sanders not raising for down ticket Dems. Maddow pushing propaganda
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#49
Which is a whole dump truck full of manure. She should do an investigation on ALL candidates $$.
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#51
I'm a treehugging fucking Liberal so recycling shit as garden fertilizer is what we do.
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#55
You guys forgot he's trying to win the 2016 Presidential election. Kinda takes a little money to do
nc4bo
Apr 2016
#59
congrats, you have proven the superdelegates are bought and paid for
questionseverything
Apr 2016
#75
She's a hack. She has alienated a huge chunk of her potential audience forever.
GoneFishin
Apr 2016
#60
I try to make a habit to bring up her Hackery on every facebook post TRMS post.
Sky Masterson
Apr 2016
#65
He has been raising money for the Democrats in the usual way every other year
pdsimdars
Apr 2016
#67