2016 Postmortem

Politicalboi

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36. So me and Bernie disagree

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 04:54 PM

Apr 2016

No biggie. Maybe he's just being a gentleman and not saying what he really thinks. Who knows.

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BIG: Bernie Admits Hillary NOT Accountable for Iraq Deaths, Attacking Her Is �Tit for Tat� [View all] riversedge Apr 2016 OP

LOL! Peter Daou = Hillary's H A Goodman beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #1

I was surprised he could type WhiteTara Apr 2016 #5

Which one, Baghdad Bob, Daou the sycophant or Brock the misogynist? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #7

In this case, Peter Daou WhiteTara Apr 2016 #13

He catapults the propaganda for money, why should he get special treatment? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #18

Well, drive on! WhiteTara Apr 2016 #24

Over Brock and his shills who ratfuck for money, with bells on! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #29

count me in berningman Apr 2016 #91

I will hitch a ride with you TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #100

Cool, everyone who despises Brock and co: All aboard! VROOM! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #101

I think we may need more room .... TheFarS1de Apr 2016 #104

It was a petty interview all Charlie rose did was go back so it's tit for tat on all the issues FloridaBlues Apr 2016 #126

Hillary's H A Goodman. frylock Apr 2016 #174

Blue Nation Review is not credible in any way revbones Apr 2016 #2

This is Bernie Sanders's own words in an interview with Charlie Rose. Do you disagree with Sanders? Squinch Apr 2016 #9

If BNR or Peter Daou say it's true, then it's probably false. nt revbones Apr 2016 #12

It's Bernie Sanders. Do you disagree with Bernie Sanders? Squinch Apr 2016 #14

Again, if BNR or Peter Daou say it, it's probably a lie. revbones Apr 2016 #16

. Squinch Apr 2016 #34

.. mcar Apr 2016 #40

I disagree with Sanders -- She should be held accountable. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #58

Bernie repeatedly voted to ban assault weapons, he's not responsible for Sandy Hook. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #62

Indeed. What I don't understand is they accuse us of hero worship but yet JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #66

Bernie is trying to be diplomatic about it, we don't have to be. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #70

No, I would say that if you disagree with Sanders on this it is YOU who needs to Squinch Apr 2016 #67

Total bullshit. See posts #10 and #22. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #68

Gosh. You've cut me to the quick with your strengthy disagreement! Squinch Apr 2016 #71

Well since you haven't refuted either of those posts, I don't see the need to repeat things forever. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #85

I'll do the JonLeibowitz refutation: TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!!! How's that? Squinch Apr 2016 #86

Not convincing to me. But ok, If you refute those two posts I'll engage with something other than JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #87

But, but, jon, if you don't speak to me, I will just DIE!!!!! How will I go on???? Squinch Apr 2016 #88

LOL spot on. riversedge Apr 2016 #179

Yep, see my #183 below, I posted the video nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #184

He voted for peaceful democratic regime change, not military action. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #76

YES, yes he did. And here it is. PatV Apr 2016 #152

I don't hold her accountable for all of it passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #146

And, boom! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #161

Haaaaaaaa shenmue Apr 2016 #151

Excellent compilation of sources, Squinch. Sanders' supporters Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #160

Sad, that you had to the work for them. but thank you riversedge Apr 2016 #162

Thanks for those links. riversedge Apr 2016 #219

I do she's the one with blood on her hands berningman Apr 2016 #92

Then so is Sanders. As he himself says, you can't have it both ways. Squinch Apr 2016 #95

if you say so. no1 will believe u. berningman Apr 2016 #98

You know... punctuation can be nice. Give it a try! Squinch Apr 2016 #103

Since you're lecturing on punctuation, bvf Apr 2016 #159

No. Sanders isn't dripping one god damn drop. Only your girlfriend. As you can see here PatV Apr 2016 #153

Yeah yeah, Sanders does not want to take responsibilty for his gun vote. riversedge Apr 2016 #163

Clinton won't take responsibility for all the deaths she's helped cause in Libya and Honduras PatV Apr 2016 #177

And Charlie Rose is a big fat liar TOO!! Yeah, that's the ticket~~~!!!!! nt MADem Apr 2016 #19

So you think the actual quotes by Bernie are not his quotes? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #63

Or maybe Sanders misquoted himself. You never know. Squinch Apr 2016 #75

Well, he has been rather strange lately with his comments!! riversedge Apr 2016 #178

On DU I don't think it really matters. revbones Apr 2016 #190

Here is the video, you can watch Sanders say it starting at 2:27 stevenleser Apr 2016 #183

This is old news. Today is faux outrage about the Vatican. joshcryer Apr 2016 #3

How is being upset at asking for an invite... scscholar Apr 2016 #56

She IS responsible... deal with it. basselope Apr 2016 #4

So you disagree with Sanders? Squinch Apr 2016 #8

Yes, I disagree with Sanders on her responsibility. basselope Apr 2016 #133

Sanders voted TWICE for REGIME CHANGE IN IRAQ. He's responsible....deal with it. nt MADem Apr 2016 #20

DUzy entry fof the week. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #38

It's complete bullshit. DUzy indeed. JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #61

Seriously, bro, you gotta contribute something besides repeating "total bullshit!" over and over. Squinch Apr 2016 #77

Noooooo. Post 135, Just For YOU!!!! nt MADem Apr 2016 #136

Post #135, False. basselope Apr 2016 #145

False. basselope Apr 2016 #134

Nooooo....not false. MADem Apr 2016 #135

Not at all. Still false. basselope Apr 2016 #144

All of the Nyah Nyah in the world can't change his votes. NOT false. nt MADem Apr 2016 #147

Yeah. false. basselope Apr 2016 #173

If she had rallied others in her sphere of influence to have a spine until reliable intel was JudyM Apr 2016 #121

So this is Sanders's own words in a Rose interview. And yet the flying monkeys don't seem to have Squinch Apr 2016 #6

You were for abandoning our troops...Leaving them without weapons and armor once they were there? Human101948 Apr 2016 #32

Non-sequitur straw man WINNER!!!!!!!!!!! Squinch Apr 2016 #39

If you want to support the troops, okasha Apr 2016 #82

You are acting as dumb as a rock, intentionally so I think... Human101948 Apr 2016 #138

Nor can one Senator bear the reslponsibility for a war. okasha Apr 2016 #140

Oh, snap! You hoisted him on his own petulant petard, okasha. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #164

Hey keep posting that... Human101948 Apr 2016 #193

The critical moment for protest and making a stand was the IWR... Human101948 Apr 2016 #169

Actually, it worked pretty well for hundreds of thousands okasha Apr 2016 #176

Actually I was there and we did not stop the war... Human101948 Apr 2016 #191

"Hoist with his own petard..." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #165

NO but they can bear responsibility for their completely wrong vote... Human101948 Apr 2016 #192

The Podium bird told them Sanders as lying soooooooo, yeah.... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #188

Hillary not only voted for the war, she pushed for it and endorsed the invasion in 2003. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #10

Sanders gave Bush his FIRST AUMF AND voted TWICE for REGIME CHANGE in Iraq! nt MADem Apr 2016 #23

He voted to go after Bin Laden and for peaceful democratic regime change. Hillary voted for war. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #27

Lucky for HIM OBL wasn't hiding in Iraq. You still can't explain his vote--twice-for Iraq Regime MADem Apr 2016 #35

Lucky for him? We knew he wasn't in Iraq and neither was Al Qaeda contrary to Hillary's claims. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #42

Oh, bullshit--no one knew where OBL was. There was a massive rumor he was in Somalia. MADem Apr 2016 #48

Hillary on Saddam: "He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda" beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #53

And before she said that, SANDERS voted TWICE for Iraq REGIME CHANGE. MADem Apr 2016 #55

Bernie voted for peaceful, democratic regime change, not war. Wow. You're really not getting this. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #59

HAHAHA! MADem Apr 2016 #129

You're quoting an idiot from counterpunch who called Bernie the "senator in Birkenstocks"? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #130

LOL--and that makes those votes and those bombing runs disappear? HAHAHA! MADem Apr 2016 #137

Gish gallop? That's an article from your esteemed "Mister St. Clair" on Hillary the "crook" Clinton. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #139

You violate copyright AND do a change topic/pivot because there's no changing his votes. MADem Apr 2016 #141

Wait, I thought it was a gish gallop? Voting against the Iraq war =/= voting for the Iraq war. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #142

Can't defend Bernie's votes, can you? So you try to make it about me. MADem Apr 2016 #149

Why do I have to defend Bernie, he didn't vote for the war, Hillary did, remember? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #156

He voted for an AUMF that is still being used to justify war, and he voted x2 for regime change in MADem Apr 2016 #197

Wow, still not an it-getter. Voting against the Iraq war =/= voting for the Iraq war. Simple, no? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #198

"Still not an it getter!" LOL! Yeah, you ARE having trouble understanding that he voted MADem Apr 2016 #199

After seeing that video anyone who blames Bernie for the Iraq war is a few coconuts shy of a bunch. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #200

I'd say anyone who resorts to personal insult as a form of political argument is a few coconuts shy MADem Apr 2016 #203

Lol! How clever, the Pee Wee Herman retort! Jeffrey will get over it. And with that we're done here! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #205

Ooooh, BMUS getting all childish and snarky, now! Look at BMUS go! nt MADem Apr 2016 #206

Said the person who uses "I know you are but what am I" as a defense. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #207

Well you are an intersting case... Human101948 Apr 2016 #194

Ahhh, classic. Make it about MEEEE!!!! MADem Apr 2016 #195

It is about you... Human101948 Apr 2016 #208

Yes, and that first AUMF laid the groundwork for the second one. But the bottom line is.... George II Apr 2016 #64

Wow, people will say anything to defend her vote, even blaming Bernie who voted against it. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #79

He didn't vote for the 2001 AUMF? He didn't vote dozens of times to fund the war(s)? And.... George II Apr 2016 #81

To go after the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11, Iraq didn't, remember? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #84

Sorry... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #11

So Sanders is wrong? Squinch Apr 2016 #41

No, he's not. TCJ70 Apr 2016 #47

You say no one could dispute that, but Bernie Sanders just did. Squinch Apr 2016 #49

Agreed! n/t DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #109

I think you're misreading me... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #112

Nope. I understand you. But if it is her burden, it's his burden too. You can't have it both ways. Squinch Apr 2016 #113

Cool... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #114

No, I'm not talking about the gun votes, though I don't like those. Squinch Apr 2016 #115

I guess we didn't reach the understanding I thought we did... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #117

A-frigging-men. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #166

The military action we took is GW BUSH's burden DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #120

Yep... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #122

And he's responsible for "some" gun deaths? I'm just following your logic, here.... MADem Apr 2016 #51

Since I honestly don't know... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #111

Mister St. Clair explains it all.... MADem Apr 2016 #128

It's St. Clair, he believes Hillary is a serial liar and pushes the Whitewater scandal. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #131

See my #183 above which includes the video. "Of course she's not responsible" Sanders said it. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #185

When it comes to the individual deaths... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #209

Bernie and I disagree on something. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #15

Well, seeing as Bernie voted for the Terra-terra-terra AUMF and TWICE for Iraq regime change, MADem Apr 2016 #17

OOPS! Must have missed one of his speeches imploring his fellows to vote against the war: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #22

Rec. paragraph. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #167

Bernie sometimes gets it wrong. Broward Apr 2016 #21

It would be a day of fresh air around here if Hillary supporters admit sometimes she is wrong! B Calm Apr 2016 #28

Did you ever hear her apologize for her vote on IWR? I am still waiting Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #99

Do you think when a drunk driver driving a Ford goes out and kills people B Calm Apr 2016 #124

It is much deeper tban this shallow talling point, it is seling guns where it is oblivious they Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #125

LOL B Calm Apr 2016 #171

According to hillary patrisans AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #25

Um, no. According to Bernie Sanders. In his own words. From his own mouth. Squinch Apr 2016 #54

He really isn't ready for prime time at all. Lucinda Apr 2016 #26

I am so tired of you Sanders supporters TM99 Apr 2016 #45

Obama, Bernie say bad judgment WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #30

It doesn't make her any less a hawk farleftlib Apr 2016 #31

What a total Camp Bansalot post. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2016 #33

Well, actually, it is a report of Bernie Sanders's own words in an interview. But whatever. Squinch Apr 2016 #57

Seeing is believing. In post #183 above there is video of Sanders saying it. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #186

So me and Bernie disagree Politicalboi Apr 2016 #36

So maybe he lied? You're probably right. Squinch Apr 2016 #89

Binary thinking is a hallmark of the conservative mind. frylock Apr 2016 #175

K&R mcar Apr 2016 #37

I wish he said this sooner, and I wish he would call down his dogs on this, but I do respect that he Squinch Apr 2016 #43

He's known that all along. In fact, if we consider ALL votes "for" the war (a misnomer) and.... George II Apr 2016 #44

This is a really big point, and they never do acknowledge it. Squinch Apr 2016 #60

Yes. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #69

I disagree with Sanders. TM99 Apr 2016 #46

It was Sanders who got the 3 Pinocchio's for lunch--his excuse was he only reads headlines. riversedge Apr 2016 #204

Well, she is in Honduras SHRED Apr 2016 #50

She voted for it. She advocated others to as well. Splinter Cell Apr 2016 #52

Isn't that something? Accuse a "fellow" Democrat of the death of the babies, then say... Teasin'. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #65

She voted for that war, she is responsible "babies" and all. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #72

Kosovo War, Afghanistan, Sanders supported only a gradual withdrawal from Iraq seabeyond Apr 2016 #78

He voted to stop a genocide, to go after the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #83

Right? It's just "tit for tat," says Sanders. Like when you're playing "gotcha last" I guess. Squinch Apr 2016 #73

So he creates this hate among the Democrats with another bogus RW attack, he is cool with that. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #96

Another flip flopping carburyme Apr 2016 #106

Yes, having taught a whole generation that aren't in the know, the wrong history. Pathetic and seabeyond Apr 2016 #107

I'll say it. berningman Apr 2016 #94

SMALL Enrique Apr 2016 #74

The more media scrutiny Sanders receives, the less people like him. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #80

hahahahahahahahahahahah berningman Apr 2016 #93

This seems to be true. Squinch Apr 2016 #110

Excellent analysis. Thanks. Trust Buster Apr 2016 #119

Ditto. My path has been similar to yours. Thanks for this. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #168

she's as responsible as everyone else that voted for that shitty war. berningman Apr 2016 #90

Yes, they and she most definitely bear a measure of responsibility. Martin Eden Apr 2016 #170

I don't agree with Bernie then G_j Apr 2016 #97

I could possibly give her a pass on Iraq AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #102

Bush had help, just like the NRA has help. (nt) stone space Apr 2016 #105

LoL, Blue Nation Review. Anyone who believes that shit needs their head examined. Bread and Circus Apr 2016 #108

LOL, video above in #183. nt stevenleser Apr 2016 #189

Republicans, Democrats who voted for iraq invasion are responsible - own it. snowy owl Apr 2016 #116

In fact, every person who voted for the "Dick" Cheney owns it. snowy owl Apr 2016 #118

K&R betsuni Apr 2016 #123

In her speech she said that Al Qaeda was in Iraq. DemocracyDirect Apr 2016 #127

Sanders was being generous. Of cours eshe bears some of the responsibility for the invasion of Iraq Vattel Apr 2016 #132

Of course Clinton is not responsible for Bush's crimes Gothmog Apr 2016 #143

Hillary is innocent of Iraq, Libya and Syria. Now let's put a lid on it! OK? /nt delrem Apr 2016 #148

Good, some truth.. thank you for this, rivers! Cha Apr 2016 #150

Wow! The political incompetence on display within the Sanders camp is mind-boggling... Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #154

Bernie may not hold her responsible, but I do. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #155

I wanted to take this particular moment in time Aerows Apr 2016 #157

pResident Cheney and the Bush Crime Family are responsible for the Iraq war. Not HRC. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2016 #158

Hillary Clinton, and all who voted for it, most definitely bear a measure of responsibility Martin Eden Apr 2016 #172

Thanks for letting me know what you think about my support of Sanders. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #180

This message was self-deleted by its author vspikes Apr 2016 #181

thanks rbrnmw Apr 2016 #182

SANDERS SAID "TAT" !!!!! Sigh, I like dem primary season uponit7771 Apr 2016 #187

Solely responsible and accountable? No. An accessory to the crime? Without question. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #196

And she dissambles about it and rewrites history Armstead Apr 2016 #201

Amazing, Sanders' supporters believe all his promises and BS, but not this for some reason. Hoyt Apr 2016 #202

Perhaps this is the reason. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #210

I'm well aware of the cost of bush's folly. But you'd have to blame a lot of folks including those Hoyt Apr 2016 #212

I blame those who initiated it. Bush & Co, and the accessories in Congress who foolishly gave him EndElectoral Apr 2016 #213

Wel, Sanders helped fund the occupation. Hoyt Apr 2016 #214

You're missing the point of what I wrote. EndElectoral Apr 2016 #215

Kick! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #211

Do you seriously think we need Bernie to tell us Hillary bears some responsibility for Iraqi deaths? Live and Learn Apr 2016 #216

K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2016 #217

Kick. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #218