2016 Postmortem

riversedge

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104. Face it--Bernie is not ready for prime time and he BLEW IT!

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Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:31 PM

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Latest Huffpost/Pollster New York chart showing Hillary steady and Bernie sinking. [View all] DCBob Apr 2016 OP

But the pope pics!! bettyellen Apr 2016 #1

Put a fork in The 'Not Hillary' Party. They're done. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #2

But but but ..... Emails!!! CAG Apr 2016 #3

There aren't enough polls to draw any conclusions GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #4

There's enough to make a chart! DCBob Apr 2016 #5

Okay and show me how many pollsters GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #8

Send your complaints to Huffington Post/Pollster. DCBob Apr 2016 #12

You drew the conclusions... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #17

No conclusions, just my informed opinion based on available data. DCBob Apr 2016 #22

some of which is over a year old azurnoir Apr 2016 #27

I filtered to just show polls from this year. DCBob Apr 2016 #31

you cut and pasted Huff Po's graph azurnoir Apr 2016 #75

Its called a "custom" graph. I suspect even you could do it. DCBob Apr 2016 #76

you're right I can indeed cut and paste from a publication azurnoir Apr 2016 #77

There is no cut and pasting involved. DCBob Apr 2016 #79

your graph is labeled was being HuffPo's as in published by HuffPo azurnoir Apr 2016 #80

It is "published" by HuffPost. They offer options to custom build graphs. DCBob Apr 2016 #81

Chuckle riversedge Apr 2016 #101

Ha ha. OilemFirchen Apr 2016 #74

Hillary is SURGING! workinclasszero Apr 2016 #6

Yes, one could look at that way. DCBob Apr 2016 #24

If flat lining is surging RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #53

"Flatlining" at 55% is not bad. DCBob Apr 2016 #87

Yeah well it's not surging. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #89

Sanders donors... fun n serious Apr 2016 #90

Looking good! livetohike Apr 2016 #7

April has not been a great month for Bernie! n/t Lucinda Apr 2016 #9

Thats a shame.... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #30

Thank you, Daily News Bin interview. Bernie Sadners couldn't have done it without you! IamMab Apr 2016 #10

Apparently you didn't read about the fact that the interviewer was the one who was confused and JudyM Apr 2016 #13

Ok, sure, yeah, it's never Bernie Sadners' fault, ever, I know. nt IamMab Apr 2016 #14

Brilliant, substantive response. I'd normally say welcome to DU but ... no, not so much. JudyM Apr 2016 #18

Then how did you get in? nt IamMab Apr 2016 #19

Oh look, another clever remark. JudyM Apr 2016 #20

How would you know? nt IamMab Apr 2016 #21

Hehe.. DCBob Apr 2016 #23

I listened to the interview, after avyear of running on breaking up the banks Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #36

Face it--Bernie is not ready for prime time and he BLEW IT! riversedge Apr 2016 #104

DU rec...nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #11

Sanders will only get 40-43% of the vote here. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #15

Yeah, I am predicting 60-40. DCBob Apr 2016 #26

K & R most enthusiastically. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #16

that's based on 4 polls from different organizations. iow, meaningless noise magical thyme Apr 2016 #25

Its actually 7 polls. What if it was the other way around? DCBob Apr 2016 #29

the OP talks about Bernie dropping. From his peak in that chart there are 4 polls magical thyme Apr 2016 #35

This is the model HuffPost/Pollster has been using ever since the primary process began last year. DCBob Apr 2016 #37

yes there is. it's noise. there aren't enough pollsters doing repeat polls to tell a story magical thyme Apr 2016 #42

Its data. No poll is perfect. I look for recent trends. DCBob Apr 2016 #73

again, a few polls all from different pollsters do NOT show a trend magical thyme Apr 2016 #82

All aggregated pollsters graph data this way. DCBob Apr 2016 #85

Trending back to Spring 2015 is meaningless. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #32

I agree that polls from a year ago are meaningless magical thyme Apr 2016 #38

there are factors that favor Clinton, there are factors that favor Sanders magical thyme Apr 2016 #54

Just stand back when Bernie comes back from the conference wearing this bad boy! Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #28

LOL DCBob Apr 2016 #39

... magical thyme Apr 2016 #43

I can play with a customized graph too! karynnj Apr 2016 #33

Try again.. your graph didnt show. DCBob Apr 2016 #34

I opted to just put in a link karynnj Apr 2016 #44

Got it. But its better to post the graphic directly ... imo. DCBob Apr 2016 #46

This is Bernie's Waterloo, Stalingrad , Maginot Line, and Bar Lev Line built into one. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #45

Yes, I'm starting to see that. DCBob Apr 2016 #48

That's a lot of smoothing. Four of the last six polls have Sanders losing ground. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #41

Not true -- the last two are down from the two polls before that karynnj Apr 2016 #49

Graphing from Jan 2015 is absurd. DCBob Apr 2016 #47

We have been reminded, ad infinitum and ad nauseam, he's returning home. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #51

Fine plot from May 2015 -- when he did announce - by the way it only plots from March karynnj Apr 2016 #57

Plotting from then is still rediculous. DCBob Apr 2016 #58

NONE of the plots make sense karynnj Apr 2016 #67

Of course there is no statistical significance here. DCBob Apr 2016 #69

Sanders needs 60+ to get the needed delegates. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #40

Yeah.. he needs a "yuuuuuge" win. DCBob Apr 2016 #50

Wins in all the rest of the primaries. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #56

Which is impossible. DCBob Apr 2016 #59

Yes and the losses may be yuuugggeee! Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #62

YEAH! chillfactor Apr 2016 #52

You do know that they don't poll NY much RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #55

There will be more polls coming out soon if you dont trust these. DCBob Apr 2016 #60

If you say so. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #64

I think what I posted is factual.. not my opinion. DCBob Apr 2016 #68

Bernie loved New York so much he moved to Vermont. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #72

That's a good question. DCBob Apr 2016 #78

Please enlighten me with your theory of his nefarious motive Armstead Apr 2016 #86

White flight perhaps? DCBob Apr 2016 #88

You just hit a new low....The only reason to leave the city are AA's? Armstead Apr 2016 #91

And so did millions and millions of others. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #83

I was born in Manhattan (Mount Sinai Hospital) raised in Queens. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #93

And I was born and raised in Brooklyn. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #94

Far Rockaway, Rego Park, and Forest Hills. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #95

Isn't Far Rockaway Nassau County? RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #96

Far Rockaway is in Queens, adjacent to Long Beach which is Nassau County. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #97

Good for you RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #98

My dad's luncheonette was in Redfern in the late 50s/early 60s DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2016 #100

I think VT gave him a better chance to be a one-man-figure. Reather fits his MO IMHO riversedge Apr 2016 #105

Kick! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #61

I don't know why realistically anyone would think that Sanders would win NY. Beacool Apr 2016 #63

They have become over confident with his string of wins in caucuses... DCBob Apr 2016 #70

Good news although I suspect it will closer than that SharonClark Apr 2016 #65

That New York Daily News article was disasterous for Sanders...I know many people who changed anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #66

Yeah, even though the Daily News is somewhat tabloidal it is read by millions.. DCBob Apr 2016 #71

It certainly was a hit piece. RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #84

Bernie blew it--he was not ready for vetting--which showed his #FAIL in the interview riversedge Apr 2016 #102

Great! You should be very happy then. Marr Apr 2016 #92

K&R mcar Apr 2016 #99

REC. and Thank you. riversedge Apr 2016 #103

Kick! Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #106